BlackBerry Z30 announced: 5'' 720p display, 2GB RAM and Snapdragon S4 Pro
0. phoneArena 18 Sep 2013, 06:12 posted on
The BlackBerry Z30 was announced moments ago during a rather mysterious event in Kuala Lampur, Malaysia...
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83. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
I happen to own a Nokia N9 and I concur with picka_vi_materina. Although the hardware is ancient, the ingenuity in the software still provides better multitasking and flow within the OS than what you get on the latest Android flagships. It's just a better UI. BB10 and iOS7 have taken some of the best bits of MeeGo and that's a proof that this was an innovation on mobile software - in stark contrast to the gimmicky stuff Samsung does.
I guess the mobile industry nowadays does bet more on better hardware and much less on inventive software. Oh, well...
86. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 166; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
What will you name? Benchmarks? Yeah, the N9 doesn't do those well nowadays. Eye, palm tracking? I had palm tracking back in the N95 days. Everything else that doesn't require a high end chip, the N9 obliterates the S4. Let's try opening apps and see which one will do all of them faster and much more efficiently, and intuitevely manipulate them later on. Plus, I don't have to click the app and wait for it to open, I just swipe away and open a new one while the other one opens up as well. Now that's software engineering. Even to this day I have speed fights based on everyday use (not benchmarks) with high end phones. What does that tell you?
And what does a S800 provide to you that the S4pro doesn't? Have you used up that S4pro to the max? You sound spoiled.
72. vangeodee (Posts: 10; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)
False. Price hasn't been even announced yet, don't make hasty assumptions.
You never know, BB could pull a fast one with this. Plus, more expensive silicon does not necessarily mean a better phone. Price to performance ratio matters; spending more for the "same" user experience is just stupid (IMO).
If an android manufacturer (say, Samsung or Sony) release a new phone using last year's flagship specs (S4 Pro-quad, 720p, 4.5-4.7" screen) and price it reasonably at the mid range segment, say around $350-$400, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
The difference between last year's flagship specs and this year's are so minuscule (user experience wise) it would be hard to tell the difference!
People are just too vain.
84. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 166; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
That's my whole point. People buy into the "new model is much better" crap that they disregard the bigger picture. User experiense wise, does the S4 really provide that much more that requires you to throw away your S3 and spit on it? And let's not even include the price difference.
I guess people do feel secure when they have the latest but have no actual use for it. They really need to stop supporting this non innovative new devices that release every month.
"More money than sense" mode is on these days.
14. HTCOE (Posts: 600; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
good price then good results. it's a nice phone overall.
15. AfterShock (Posts: 3697; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
If it was guaranteed to be supported for one and a half to two years, I might grab one as a back up phone.(might is operative word)
Otherwise, we're witnessing the rearranging of deck chairs on the titanic.
21. Tazer2365 (Posts: 46; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)
Why didn't they release this phone from the start of the year?! Surely they wouldn't be to the point where they are today which is almost out of business, if they would've released this phone earlier. R.I.P Blackberry
22. taikucing (unregistered)
this is what I wanted since a long time ago, a quad core BB with big display. I have the same hope with other commentators here, I hope it won't be overpriced.
720p 5 inch display is enough for people. it's still better than iPhone display.
23. jamesish (Posts: 13; Member since: 15 Sep 2013)
If this was released 2 years ago it would be a different story. Shame shame shame.
24. mrturner (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
Just a high-midrange phone.
A fair attempt but a fall in standard..
27. sunnyfpy (Posts: 59; Member since: 12 May 2013)
A little to late,obsolete already...............
30. anirudhshirsat97 (Posts: 406; Member since: 24 May 2011)
I like blackberry phones. They are great to use. Always have been.. it's just their price. It's beyond stupid. In what universe is Z10 more expensive than an S4/one...oh wait. ..
33. ady_lad (Posts: 77; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)
Looks like a very decent handset. I think that Z10 is a very good phone too, but wrong pricing and while I wouldn't have minded buying one if it was cheaper, it was no match to the HTC One in terms of value for money a few months ago.
35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
To late BlackBerry!
Also since BlackBerry is dying, I don't suggest to buy any new BlackBerry device since it may lose support really fast.
45. BigRed83 (Posts: 143; Member since: 19 May 2008)
No US release indicators & BlackBerry wants to be sold by the end of November. Who'll support this device? This is as bad as the two prior idiots (I mean co-CEOs) killing BB7 by talking about version 10 just after 7 came out. BB was great, just managed into the ground.
46. MickLuvHP (Posts: 22; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
BlackBerry 10 devices are actually 1 of the smoothest that you can find! Holding 1 Q10 & Note 2 now and even though Note 2 have a quad core processor, it still lacks compare to Q10! Plus the OS is great, compare to android as its optimize for all the BB 10 Phone! Look forward to holding a Z30 soon, after Q10! ((: The only thing that it lack is the apps section, but with the increasing apps and sideloading, this can be solved too! (:
49. MickLuvHP (Posts: 22; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
To those that say BB sucks or its obsolete, I think maybe you should find a BlackBerry promoter/sales person in your country and let them do a demo on a BB 10 phone for you! I assure that you'll change your perception of it! For now, just hope that the pricing isn't too steep.
50. Jeradiah3 (Posts: 1010; Member since: 11 Feb 2010)
This phone would be more relevant if it were made a year ago. I like what they're doing, but it'l be hard for Blackberry to sell this phone when you have Apple and Samsung dominating the market. I wouldnt buy this phone, but I hope that Blackberry can bring back some of their former customers with this phone
51. Tomfromsouth (Posts: 65; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
The biggest problem I have is (no its not the specs or software) they've put no effort into improving the camera. I think all the manufacturers have gone to great lengths to improve. HTC - ultra pixel. Samsung (increased mp count). Sony (increased mp count). LG ois etc etc.
They're honestly bringing nothing to the table
62. -box- (Posts: 3933; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
So it basically has the same hardware as current Windows Phones but a 5" screen. If/when Microsoft buys them, the transition to WP will probably be easy.
What is going on with the first description of the hardware, especially the S4 Pro?! "This includes the 5-inch 720p (295 ppi) AMOLED display, the largest of any BB phone, and also the now aging aged Snapdragon S4 Pro with the four CPUs running at 1.7GHz. Blackberry is yet to shed light on whether we're talking about a dual-core or quad-core, though the less potent version seems likely". The S4 Pro is dual-core for Windows Phones and some Androids, and the new version is quad-core like in the new Nexus 7, so you can't say it has four CPUs AND dual-core, it's one or the other (likely dual-core since BB10 doesn't need the quad-core and BB is running out of loonies). Also, "aging aged"; pick one, not both.
64. Sonny_09 (Posts: 49; Member since: 24 May 2013)
It's sure odd seeing a Blackberry device being launched at Kuala Lumpur. Anyone knows what lead to that event being held there? ( - a Malaysian)
73. LG_is_the_best (unregistered)
I hate to see Blackberry end this way