BlackBerry Z10 will arrive to U.S. no earlier than mid-March
0. phoneArena 30 Jan 2013, 10:14 posted on
The BlackBerry Z10 is the hottest BlackBerry 10 device that RIM now known as BlackBerry has just unveiled…
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1. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
RIM please learn from your competitors and from your past mistakes. Why on earth would you have waited till March to release your first handset in the U.S???? SMH RIM you haven't learn a damn thing from your past!!
2. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
US is not the only and most profitable market...................DUUUUUUUHHH!
6. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
I concur, but at the sametime the US consumers particularly the Business/Enterprise demographic accounts for the majority of RIM's sales. This is a huge mistake and misstep on RIM's part. It will comeback to haunt them in a significant way. RIM had enough time to work through the supply and demand ratio for the world markets.
7. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Don't you think that if it made up the majority of it's sales, the focus would be in US? Check out Nokia, they failed by only concentrating in the US market while neglecting all their other gold mines.
15. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Not necessarily true. Nokia's issue was that they release a lower supply for the Lumia 920 handsets. Nokia wasn't anticipating the demand to be so high in other segmented markets. Therefore Nokia now has to ramp up production to meet the demand for the Lumia 920. Nokia will pump up production and you will see more handsets release with 2 weeks from now. What I merely annoyed by with RIM is that they ha dthe best position coming in late they should have worked this through more concisely!!
17. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Selling 20000 devices and calling it high demand is outrageous. Nokia subsidized the phone too much in order to get any sales with the hated WP, and yet they'll lose to BB which protect and promote their own sweaty labour. That's how it's done. Even the N9 is proof of Elop's s**tty decision.
25. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
@picka_vi_materina : if nokia was subsiding the phone too much, they would have not come out with a profit this quarter!!!!
20000 devices????! wow ,u r really not following any news, its 700000. although not much compared to apple and samsung, it s good for company that disappeared from the us for almost 5 years plus nokia sold more wp's in the us than htc(which has the name advantage plus more carrier availabilty and realtionships in the us over nokia). now that's impressive
33. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
20000 was just an example if you didn't figure it out. 700000 is a joke for old Nokia. Today's Nokia is not even 10% the size it was prior to Elop. Operating costs and turning profit are so much easier to achieve. And by gaining US, they lost the world, which was their gold mine. US was never profitable for Nokia. US =/= World
26. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
First of all Nokia sold 4.4 Million units of Windows Phone devices (Lumia 920) last quarter. THough some of those sales came from the Symbian shares, Nokia is a huge conglomerate and has many sales divisions. Nokia if you haven't heard ha sjust turn back to profitability. If selling a few amount of devices to supply the market share is a bad thing then its capital gain is a GREAT thing for the long run.
31. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Turning profit while cutting so much of their operating costs, wooooooooow.......well done, Elop. 4.4 million? N8 sold that much and even more single handedly, and yeah, running Symbian. Elop, you rock. And why didn't that idiot report N9 sales last year compared to all of the Lumia sales?
16. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
failed???! u r not following the news, r u?? hello ,they have just turned out of the red!!
all os's that succeeded always began the US.
a simple example is symbian where it never got the love of developers because it was never popular in the us.
an os to succeed, it has to be popular everywhere but specifically the US!!
btw i am not a us citizen or ever have been to the us
19. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
And that's why Symbian ruled for a decade, because it had no sales in the US. It failed, not because of US, but because of bad management inside Nokia and the popular Trojan Horse that came in the right time killing of MeeGo, Maemo, Symbian and the N9.
23. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
You are aware that Symbian was a dying platform right. Nokia realized that in the end Symbian was going to loose sales and hence joined forces with Microsoft. To me that was the best option and I ma glad they went with Windows Phone. Though Windows Phone has its flaws it still ha stime to correct them. Nokia is going with Differentiation over following others.
28. muhsen (Posts: 280; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)
@ CardiWPfan, u r right
@ picka_vi_materina symbian was failure in the us alot b4 elop came to nokia. symbian or meego would never succeed as they didn't win the hearts of developers unlike wp which is picking up in apps now, proof to that is wp reached 100,000 app limit b4 android did.
30. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I'll let you have that one and sleep like a baby tonight knowing that WP had a better chance in direct contact with MeeGo. Symbian was redone in Qt and was meant to stay in midrange, while MeeGo and Meltemi were planned for high and low ranges, respectively.
3. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Lol just like the playbook... And like the playbook will be burried in between new awesome android phones and who knows what else
8. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Playbook will be updated to BB10 and will sell like hotcakes until a new tablet.
4. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
RIM, what are you doing?? How can it take so long to release a product? Time is not on their side. How can they launch tomorrow in Europe but can't launch in the states for another month and a half? I was excited for BB10, but this will be the death of them. Completely inexcusable...
10. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
I completely agree with your sentiments. This is a colossal mistake on RIM's part. RIM had enough time to work out the distribution kinks for Blackberry 10. There is no excuse for this misstep. RIM must not realize the MWC is in a mere 2 weeks and most of us are anticipating the new onslaught of technology coming through. SMH best of luck.
5. akbarkool (Posts: 42; Member since: 06 Nov 2012)
KIDDING ITS KOOOL BUT NOKIA IS BETTER
11. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Not totally. Microsoft do suck in some area's and excel in others lol!!
14. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
In what? Lying about storage capacity on a 1000 euro device?
36. c1pher (Posts: 9; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
blind blackberry fanboy. every company has it;s own good and bad thing. you must be thinking that RIM is god huh?
12. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
You damn right Nokia is better!! I love Nokia!!
13. Derekjeter (Posts: 810; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
RIM wanted to release tomorrow but like always US carriers are going to ruined the phones by adding the BLOATWARE like verizons VZNAVIGATOR which nobody uses. Give it for the US.
24. TheMan (Posts: 486; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
I totally agree. It's not The-Canadians-Formerly-Know-as-RIM's fault that U.S. carriers require their own stamp on every phone, which delays launch, removes features, adds bloatware, and generally pisses off users.
Remember the S III was delayed three months in the U.S.
20. Derekjeter (Posts: 810; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Blackberry did not show how the NFC will work on the phones they did not specify what the camera on the phone would carry. Im excited for them but they left a lot of information out in the presentation. I hate Apple but their iCRAP has good presentation.
22. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
I absolutely concur with your sentiments here. Why on earth did RIM neglect to showcase NFC like Nokia and Samsung did. This is a fail front in terms of a presentation. I am very disappointed I had high hopes for BB10!!
29. Derekjeter (Posts: 810; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
No talk about storage either. I have my upgrade for mid Feb, and i will be thinking hard on what to get. Specially cuz of that Nokia high end Windows phone coming to Verizon. I cant wait to get rid of my iPhone 5.
32. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
Trust me when I tell you this Nokia is going to shake up the market in 2 weeks. If you thought the Lumia 920 was high end wait till you see what will be unveiled at MWC 2013!! I am very jealous of the Verzion customers and what they will be getting, VERY JEALOUS!!
21. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
Blame the ceo for the date. If i was in charge release it soon as possible or at least around till feb 14th. Sure theirs alot of black berry female owners out their would like too have one including the business ones too
27. CardiWPfan (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)
RIM had waaay to much time sitting on the sidelines watching what the competitors were doing. You mean to tell me they came up with the rushed excuse of a presentation to appease the female demographic. Completely sad on Rim's management's part. What is RIM going to do in 2 weeks when WMC 2013 new phones showcased!!
35. apiskula (banned) (Posts: 578; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
This device will fail! Just like all the other garbage blackberries!