BlackBerry Storm set to launch November 15th
0. phoneArena posted on 27 Oct 2008, 03:26
The wait is almost over, as the Storm is on its way...
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1. (unregistered) posted on 20 Oct 2010, 01:42 0 0
i still want to know the price!
51. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 15:11 0 0
I still want to know if they're gonna make good on the crappy Pearl's and give us a rebate!
67. Kezia (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 20:00 0 0
Price determines whether I purchase or not. If more than $300 its a no for me. I can work with my DARE!
74. elgee02 (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 22:34 0 0
Unless you bought your Dare at full retail you wont be eiligible for an upgrade, so for the Storm you will be looking at full retail and I can guarentee you this will full retail well above $300
117. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:30 0 0
full retail is going to be around $699
126. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 14:37 0 0
yep, i had to pay full retail for my env...NOT WORTH IT. belive me if you have a decent phone try to work with it untill your contracts over or buy another phone off ebay. my env was 405$
131. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 17:27 0 0
i heard retail pricing starting at $149
139. (unregistered) posted on 02 Nov 2008, 08:06 0 0
Full retail means the unsubsidized price...like if your contract isn't up for renewal yet, or you aren't eligble for your new every two plan yet. The full retail is rumored in the $500-$600 range, while contracted (subsidized) price is flipping back and forth between $0, $99, $149, and $199 (I've seen most all of these on the internet the past couple of months, and these 4 prices seem to be the most widely accepted).
152. (unregistered) posted on 11 Nov 2008, 17:50 0 0
u r retarded if u paid $405 for a env. full retail price was at $319.99 if that!!! and the env is a great phone. u could never please everybody!
155. (unregistered) posted on 12 Nov 2008, 12:19 0 0
lol sure is........so Kezia might as well stop dreaming
157. (unregistered) posted on 19 Nov 2008, 14:25 0 0
its 200 for this week only and then 250
2. vzw fanboy (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 06:54 0 0
thats good the stores are opening 1 hour early. i hope this phone is not more expensive than when the voyager came out. i cant wait to see it.
76. PLEASE HELP (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 23:20 0 0
Ok, i need to get a new phone and i need one from VZW, that has the best e-mail and text messaging capabilities. Ex. on my Q, i have to go to a menu and request that my new emails be sent to me. I want them to come in just like text messages and be ready for me to check them when i look at my phone. I really need help. PLEASE HELP ANYONE WITH BRAINS >_>
81. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 09:05 0 0
blackberrys will "push" and alert you when you get an email.. just use the set up wizard and it will give you different time intervals that it pushes the emails... the most common is five minutes... so every five minutes it checks and if you have an email it alerts you and its right there on the phone.
89. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 11:45 0 0
wrong - blackberries receive/push your emails through instantly. There is no wait time. I usually get my email on my blackberry before it even hits my gmail.
96. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 15:59 0 0
no your wrong, It pings the system every fifteen minutes until it recieves an email and then every five after it recieves an email, then back to fifteen after it has recieved an email within the five minutes
98. The_Real (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 16:05 0 0
Actually you are wrong; Blackberries can be setup in 2 ways, through a BES or BIS. If a Blackberry is through a BES the time interval can be adjusted. If setup through BIS it is carrier dependant. For example T-mobile has set their servers to push out every 15 min. This varies on exactly how quick you will receive your email, anywhere between 5 sec to 20 mins, probability shows that if you get a new email with a 15 min send time you will receive an email on your blackberry in 50% of the time the carrier has set the push.update.time variable, 7.5 mins on average.
118. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:32 0 0
I have the curve and sell for Verizon and I get my E-mails instantly, work and personal. All of my e-mails have came to my blackberry before my actualy e mail. Blackberrys are the best phones for e-mail. In fact I like my Curve more then my voyager and dare
140. (unregistered) posted on 02 Nov 2008, 08:13 0 0
it's impossible for your email to hit your phone before your email server -- that doesn't even make sense. The way these work is usally (BIS method) - checking the server every couple of minutes (set interval on the phone or provider, depends on phone and provider - this one looks like VZW + Storm = 5sec - 5min interval) for new mail. If you have no mail *on the mail server*, you won't get it on the blackberry. hence, why it's impossible for you to receive e-mail you haven't yet received. For corporate environments (BES method) - the BES (Blackberry Enterprise Server) acts as the mail server for your (often) work account - this is what the BlackBerry "syncs" with. The lag you may be experiencing could come from a client that you use (Outlook, Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution, etc), as each of these have intervals they check mail with. If your company/mail server uses POP, there is probably going to be a lag. If IMAP/Exchange, they use the same "Push" technology that the Storm utilizes - email is instantly sent and received by maintaining a constant connection with the server. IMAP is usually (from my experience as an Exchange Administrator) slower at updating the Push data than Exchange.
149. (unregistered) posted on 08 Nov 2008, 10:37 0 0
im not going to act like i know how it worked, but when i had my 8830 and sent an email to my gmail account, and refreshed the computer non stop, the email was actually on my 8830 about 1-2 seconds before gmail. maybe it was comcast's fault lol
3. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 07:10 0 0
awesome. I can't wait
4. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 07:53 0 0
NO WIFI this phone is gonna suck...VZ fanboys open wide VZ is about to BUST...
5. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 08:06 0 0
wifi is for poor people
6. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 08:09 0 0
wifi is for TMO customers who have to mooch off their neighbors wifi bc they cant afford internet themselves...lol
14. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 10:16 0 0
I could see wanting Wi-Fi if you had no other way of accessing the web on this phone. Fact is...You are required to get the data plan on a Blackberry. Wi-Fi is a waste if you have a data plan.
15. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 10:22 0 0
lmao @ #7..... and with t-mobile's "outstanding" 3G coverage....wifi is defnately needed on all of their devices
20. vzw fanboy (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 11:00 0 0
hahha lol wifi is for poor people, i agree!
39. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 13:53 0 0
If WiFi is so important why don't they just throw in satellite TV as well? Why not have the ability to start your car remotely too? Or wirelessly play your Xbox Live Arcade games by waving the phone around in the air like a Wii-mote? Cell phones are basically complicated radio transceivers that send and receive transmissions that run using a set of frequencies. Different technologies like CDMA voice, GSM voice, PDC, EVDO, EDGE, HSPA, and HMTS all use different frequencies to send and receive information. When you send and receive information using so many different frequencies they can cause problems if they are not compensated for. Since VZW has the largest 3G network covering most of the U.S. and RIM has already added frequencies compatible with all of the previous , adding in WiFi would not be very cost-effective; the development would take a lot longer and the quality of the finished product might not be as good (it might be as bad as the 3G iPhone, where some users were dropping up to 36% of their calls due to conflicts in switching frequencies from 2G to 3G in areas where they shouldn't be having those problems.) The fact that they can do this much is amazing in itself. There's only so much tech they can cram into a machine that fits in the palm of your hand... Besides WiFi isn't available in a lot of places EVDO is; whatever difference there is in speed doesn't measure up to the fact that if I want that speed I have to stay inside the coffee shop (used as one example of WiFi service area)!
45. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 14:21 0 0
Wi Fi is extremely important... all 3G networks are way too slow... Sure while on the road you have to deal with the broadband EVDO speeds... But soon there will be wireless access points broadcasting through out most major cities... it would have been an easy and nice feature to add... while you are at home or in a coffee shop it would have made browsing the Internet way more enjoyable... It's a shame they did not add this feature... They are giving the iPhone the upper hand here... #49 nice copy and paste job... Cell phones will be doing lots more after 6 months of the Storms release...
46. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 14:29 0 0
hahah funny....not..... if u know bout cell phone u know wifi is way faster then 3g dumbass n with tmobile ur still required to get data on any smart phone
48. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 14:40 0 0
wifi, wow how stupid r u? wifi is really for people who cant afford s*** so than you possibly couldn't even afford a phone that has that capability or anytype of interent capability. so stop bitchin and wake up. WIFI=S****Y
59. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 16:41 0 0
If you think wifi is worthless you're worthless.... OR maybe it's because you've been with VZW who never gets any phones with Wifi and you don't know the true capabilities and benefits of having it. Wifi isnt' that hard of a thing to incorporate, VZW is just retarded and doens't want it on any of their phones. it's like the MMS iPhone gripe, simple thing that it should obviously have, just like any phone that's a high-end PDA should have wifi, it's that simple. They don't have 3G everywhere, and it's not that great where they do have it. Incoporate wifi and you have the speeds you want PERIOD.
60. vzw fanboy (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 17:46 0 0
why would you need it at home thats what a laptop is for! lol
61. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 17:48 0 0
wifi may be faster for computers than an EVDO card but phones can't process the faster data speeds anyways so it won't make a difference.
62. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 18:32 0 0
to dumbass num 59 i have the google g1 n a lg dare compare dare 3g n g1 on 3g same s*** same speed put the g1 on wifi smokes the dare y cuz it only run on 3g
70. (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 22:08 0 0
VZW..who never gets any phones with WIFI? apparently you haven't been phone shopping this century to even see VZW's products...maybe you should either get out more, or go shop more
75. elgee02 (unregistered) posted on 27 Oct 2008, 22:37 0 0
Let's see, VZW's EVDO Rev-A which blankets over 80% of the US population... does FREE WiFi (key word is free cause a lot of WiFi you find makes you pay to use it) cover anywhere close to 80% of the US population? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I'll take 3G in a heartbeat.
79. Me (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 07:35 0 0
I just hate it when workers keep posting for comapnies trying to advocate for their weaknesses. It is so obvious...
80. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 08:58 0 0
I definitely concur with the above statement!
84. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 11:03 0 0
Wow you are a dumb a**. Do your research before you get on here and start posting out of your a**. Did you bother thinking about the XV6800 we have currently out and the XV6850 that is coming out. Both happen to be mentioned in the article above.
91. elgee02 (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 13:41 0 0
Pity. This isn't VZW's weakness. RIM simply didn't put WiFi on this device, but go ahead and ignore the overwhelming evidence that it is not necessary at all when you have VZW's superb 3G coverage.
94. Caprice (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 14:42 0 0
I guess I'm in the minority, but I couldn't give a darn about wifi. That doesn't make or break a phone for me. For me, the main thing is battery life! The ability to record/play back video, camera photo editing options and flash, internet access are important to me as well. Speed, kinda sorta. Just as long as I can get on. I've been with T-Mobile for a few years now n' one of the things that burns me up about them is gettin' on the web...when I CAN get on the web. I'm so used to getting error messages now due to poor signal strength, I don't know what to do. Oh yes I do! Happily drop kick the pink-T as soon as The Storm comes out! The Storm will be my first BlackBerry. Everybody I know who owns one tells me nothing but great things about BB battery life. I'm hearin' the same about the Storm.
97. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 16:01 0 0
the xv 6800 has wifi and the i760 has wifi, get ur facts straight
99. The_Real (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 16:12 0 0
I agree, partly. If you've read up on 4g, you will see that 50mb/s over cell is going to happen. Sadly, probably, before the large expanse of access points becomes a reality
108. (unregistered) posted on 28 Oct 2008, 18:08 0 0
shmuk u dnt need a data plan on tmobile if they tell u that give them a diff imei and jus pop ur sim into ur bberry with verizon thats impossible because it works on a faster and more reliable cdma network
116. DarthVegas (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:05 0 0
115: Don't you know that the manufacturer makes what the carrier wants them to? I am so sick of hearing that we should complain to the manufacturer if the phone doesn't have what we want. It's up to the carrier. This is why the new HTC phones have one set of specs for Sprint and a different spec list for VZW. Did you really think that HTC just decided to leave stuff off of the Verizon models for shits and giggles? I personally don't need Wifi on my device, but people here should respect the fact that some people want it. How is it helpful to label them poor or stupid? (not singling 115 out on this part) Do you really think you are going to change someone's point of view by calling them names?
119. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:35 0 0
why are ppl so obssesed with WIFI. Wouldnt you rather not have the internet whenever and not when you are at a WIFI hotspot.. your an idiot if you are that hard off of WIFI. so go sit in starbucks an to use your internet when i can use mine anywhere. also how do you even figure verizon is about to bust, they are first place in 19 our of 20 markets in consumer reports after the Alltell buy out
120. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:36 0 0
good thing that the new storm is going to be REV A though which is faster then 3g
121. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 10:37 0 0
great so you will get internet faster in 10% of the places that you have it.. sounds extrememly convienant to me.. you must not have been able to get approved with Verizon so you have to go to T mobile
128. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 14:53 0 0
actuallt ATT is #1 VZW is #2
129. the smart guy (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 15:33 0 0
Everyone who argues about cell phones are IDIOTS!! Dumb Geeks! Listen to yourselves whining. Watch some football and go outside and breathe the fresh autumn air. By the way Rev A is the type of 3g. Example. 3G is the Make like Chevrolet and Rev A is the Model like a corvette. Silly Rabbit.
130. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 15:52 0 0
Wow you probably use it dummy and why not save $20 a month thats $240 a year and $480 in two years so if you are saying lol because they are smart and saving or maybe you are just retarded and laugh out loud all the time
132. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 17:58 0 0
yeah I had a phone with wifi...... and then my mom got a job!
133. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 23:07 0 0
to number 99 i'm in college and am making something of myself. there we have FREE(key word free) WiFi.
134. (unregistered) posted on 29 Oct 2008, 23:58 0 0
well we're very glad that you're making something out of yourself...because you probably have no other talent... it's also very good for you that you get "FREE" WIFI which not many of us are in your shoes being able to just stay in your dorm and scratch your junk with one hand and play with your phone with the other. we wouldn't be having this "discussion" in the first place if there's FREE WIFI EVERYWHERE...unfortunately, unless you're a trillionaire, we don't. We shouldn't be having this discussion about WIFI or no WIFI anyway. This discussion is about the "VERIZON RIM STORM 9530", that's why there's a big f*$kin' picture of the Storm on top. So those that are saying "...oh you can't save $20-$30 a month, $240-$360 a year" put your damn foot, as matter of fact, put your damn FEET in your mouth, unfortunately while you have a PDA/Smartphone with Verizon, data plan is required so in this case, WIFI or no WIFI does not make a difference WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FEW PLACES WHERE YOU DON'T GET GOOD NETWORK RECEPTION. Thus, giving Verizon policy, because all PDA/Smartphones require data plan, not having WIFI seems like the better decision since that helps lower the price of the phone itself. As one of the fellow writer on this discussion, even if you have WIFI, with bunch of people sharing one network, things are bound to be slow and it can only download and work as fast as your phone allows it. Get over people, there will never be a perfect phone because everyone's needs are different, just admit that Storm is a pretty awesome phone, and i'm pretty sure once Storm's out, 3, 4, 5, 6 months down the road a better phone will come out, that is life...you people are still buying it aren't ya'll? GEEZ
138. (unregistered) posted on 31 Oct 2008, 23:17 0 0
correction: the comment was stated vzw will be number 1 after the buy out of alltel vzw was number one b4 at&t bought out cingular
145. (unregistered) posted on 06 Nov 2008, 11:29 0 0
Wi-Fi is inconsequential on these phones. You DO notice a speed increase when you are connected while using the iphone/other blackberry's/WM phones but the processors on all these phones aren't capable of rendering web pages as fast as a full-blown computer. So, my conclusion is that you may as well use the EVDO unless you're somewhere a 3G network doesn't exist. THAT would a reason to have Wi-Fi.
150. (unregistered) posted on 08 Nov 2008, 10:45 0 0
rev. a is not faster then 3g, it IS 3g. it is revision A of 3g, but still 3g.
151. (unregistered) posted on 08 Nov 2008, 13:05 0 0
actually vzw does have some phones that have wifi look into it before jumping to some sort of conclusion.