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BlackBerry OS 10.1 available to developers, here are the changes it brings

0. phoneArena 18 Apr 2013, 04:06 posted on

BlackBerry OS 10.1 is the first big update to the recently released overhaul to the BlackBerry platform and it is already available to developers...

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posted on 18 Apr 2013, 04:34 1

1. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Nothing major here, and no changes that I'm personally hoping for.

I've been using the Z10 for about a week, and while overall I like it a lot, there are still some issues, mainly with app availability and quality.

For instance, the Youtube app pretty much just directs to the browser.

The Facebook app doesn't support landscape mode or URL clickability.

The Maps app is a joke. It can't find places that Google Maps knows about.

The ESPN app ceased to function entirely after a few days.

The ringtone selection is laughable.

Google Apps aren't available at all, and I'm sorely missing that.

Overall, the OS is a lot more polished for as big an overhaul as it is, and I LOVE the gesture navigation, but it's still not enough to make me want to give up Android in the long term. I'm still holding out for a Motorola X.

Also, the phone restarts occasionally, an average of about three times a day. That worries me.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 05:05

4. msa1988 (Posts: 417; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)


I really really really want to get the Q10, but the lack of apps makes me so hesitant. Some of the main ones I use are Viber, ESPN, Maps, YouTube, Bank Apps, Instagram, FB, Twitter, My-Cast weather, etc. I know you touched on a few of them momentarily, but would the lack of apps be enough for you to advise people not to get anything Blackberry until more are available?

I miss the keyboard, but is it worth it??

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 05:26

5. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I don't use half of the ones that you've mentioned, but I'll go a bit more in depth:

ESPN Scorecenter still doesn't work, and I'm assuming an update is needed to fix it. No update has been released yet for it since I've had the phone, and the chorus of reviews on App World tells me I'm not the only one with this issue. I'm assuming, however, that the app will be fixed.

Weather actually seems to work fine natively on the phone.

Maps, like I've said, hasn't impressed at all so far, but I've only tried to find a couple of locations, so I'll keep giving it a chance and see if it does better. Like with ESPN, what's needed is continued support. Until then, I would recommend secondary map options, perhaps even Google Maps in the browser.

I haven't tried Viber, Instagram or bank apps.

Facebook's app works fairly well despite the aforementioned issues, and the notifications are far more consistent than with Android's Facebook app, I feel.

What I remind myself of as I'm using the phone is that this is essentially a completely new operating system for Blackberry. It's almost like jumping into Android circa 1.5 or 2.0 at best.

That said, Blackberry is already far ahead of where Android was in the same time frame. For a first effort, they have done a really great job. I've even forgiven them for ripping off of WebOS's multitasking method, especially since they did a good job implementing it with other gestures.

I am willing to bet that Blackberry will be supportive of the initial phones (Z10 and Q10) and with this OS and these new devices, they have certainly demonstrated a desire to learn, grow and change.

However, they'll never get that chance to do so if people don't give them a chance first.

So my recommendation: buy either the Z10 and Q10 if you want to show your support for Blackberry. I think they're meeting us halfway with Blackberry 10, and the product is good enough so far that I want to see them succeed.

(For the record, the keyboard is also really good. I put it in third place for keyboards I've used, with Swiftkey being first, Android stock/skinned keyboards second-with Motorola's Gingerbread keyboards at the top of that sublist-and the iPhone's keyboard fourth.) I think apps and games will ultimately feel better on a full screen, so skip the Q10 and go for the Z10.

Also, I'm just going to say here that it's likely this OS never would've been released under RIM's co CEOs. Have to give credit to Blackberry's executive lineup for finally giving 10 the push it needed into the market.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 06:10

6. msa1988 (Posts: 417; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)


Good stuff. The reason I'd go with the Q10 is I love the physical buttons. I currently have the 4S and for the most part, don't have too much trouble typing on this small screen. If the 4S isn't a problem, I can imaging the Z10 is like cake. But regardless of how good the touchscreen keyboard is, I'd really fancy a physical keyboard again. It's been since the BBTour that I've gotten to use one of those. Also, I don't play many games or watch a whole bunch of videos, so I'm not too worried about the small screen size.

I think the company is definitely heading in the right direction. What has hurt them the most is the delay of the Q10. When people think of BB, all they think of is "best keyboard on the market". The only people who use older BB models only use them mostly for the keyboard. They should have released their signature device first, then shocked the market with the Z10.

i'm hoping once I get the Q10 in May / June, most of the issues listed will be ironed out. I understand they are ahead of the game when releasing a new OS, but what it comes down to is there are other options that have the full package. Definitelty still willing to give them a shot!

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 08:57

10. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Ah, well then, have at it with the physical keyboard. If your main concerns are social networking and mesaging, the phone's pretty much perfect right now. I think if you want to give the platform another chance, jump on it right now, live with the minor issues it has, and ride the train. It's probably only going to get better, and that way you won't have to wait another 2 years.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 09:57

12. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


WHAT!? sniggly? Swiftkey is not first best unless it is for you. Swiftkey lags and is no where close to as good as the Z10 keyboard. I had a competition with my friend who was using swiftkey on his android device. We wrote out the same sentence at the same time. I beat him half way through and on top of that he couldn't even complete the sentence...the blackberry Z10 keyboard gives u so many shortcuts to type faster and more accurately

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 17:58

19. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Swiftkey worked a hundred times better than the stock keyboard on my Galaxy Note, and the autocorrect is second to none. The sheer amount of customization was also awesome to me.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 09:53

11. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


Very worth it! You can sideload apps from android. I haven't done any of that since I don't need instagram or any app in particular to survive...Other than that they are getting new apps everyday and some of them being better than ios and android native apps.

You should try th Z10 cuz I had 9900 and had a hard time converting but u would love the touch screen keyboard. It's the best there is. Over all the phone is worth getting cuz it makes it so much easier to mutli task, going in and out of apps and it is a very fast phone with best touch screen keyboard unless u want to go with Q10

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 04:47 2

2. jonneyh (Posts: 7; Member since: 22 Mar 2013)


You clearly bought a fake phone.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 04:56 1

3. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Are you talking to me?

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 07:28 3

8. slaggyb (Posts: 183; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)


Yes you.... you just reviewing what you read online you don't own a z10..saying it restarts 3times a day is just a big lie... Even the old blackberry far back as os5 doesn't restart 3times daily.. My friend if you learning how to troll go learn from trolls like Nikolas oliver and apiskula at least the come outright to bash the Z10..

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 08:56 1

9. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Are you for fuc.king real?

No seriously.

You've just accused me of lying about my experience with a smartphone I'm using. Yes, the phone restarts up to 3 times a day, depending on my usage. It also seems mostly to do it in my pocket, which means it could have to do with pressure on the back and therefore battery connections.

This is a completely new operating system and completely new hardware. The possibility of issues is not out of the question. However, all I know is that I'll get an alert from my bluetooth that it's not connected, pull the phone out of my pocket, and it's restarting. (still takes a little bit to restart compared to Android and iOS too).

But seriously, how DARE you accuse me of lying? I like the Z10. I really wish I didn't have negative things to say about the Z10. As I've stated I think the new OS has the potential to revive Blackberry. However, it's not perfect. I could even have a bad unit. Did you consider that possibility?

Whatever, you're probably just saying this bulls.hit to bait me anyway.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 10:03

13. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


I have the Z10 and it does NOT restart 3 times a day. It restarted on me only about 2 or 3 times since i had it, which is more than 3 weeks now...It does not restart on me anymore though

It's possible that your bluetooth is causing it. Turn off your blue tooth! and turn it on when needed and hope for the next update to fix the problem. Oh and it might take longer to restart but that's a full restart like a computer would do. Other phones don't do that which is actually not a good thing

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 08:15

21. Superbuddy (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)


Because you don't have Verizon and you are using an updated version of BB10.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 14:59

17. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


here is something I read from a person who reviewed this phone from Tmobile...he still gave it 5 stars though. This is only part of the review concerning the problem u had...

There are a few glitches including the email client and its interaction with SOME servers. The problem is Blackberry's and they know about it; it is allegedly going to be fixed in the next firmware update. I have also managed to prompt a reset a couple of times, which looks to be a memory leak. The good news is that the phone figures out that it's out of memory and resets, which beats a lockup. The bad news is that this isn't supposed to happen. This needs attention but it's a rare problem. Finally there is not yet support for Wifi calling, so if you need that wait for the software update.

Blackberry has a winner with the Z-10 -- highly recommended

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 17:57

18. Sniggly (Posts: 6695; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Look, Xtasy, I'm not looking to bash on the Z10. My Droid X was my favorite phone ever, and it occasionally restarted too.

All I was doing was reporting on the quibbles I have after playing with the phone.

Overall, I LIKE IT. And overall, it is THE FIRST BLACKBERRY DEVICE I'VE EVER FELT I COULD RECOMMEND.

It just needs more work is all.

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 08:14

20. Superbuddy (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)


I have the Z10 on Verizon and my device restarts 4 to 5 times a week. I took the sd card out to fix that and haven't seen the issue anymore. Verizon Z10s are using an older version of the software which is 10.0.9.466 and the current version is 10.0.10.8xx. That's the problem. So yes, it does restart although it does not bother me much at all since it reboots within a minute or so.

posted on 19 Apr 2013, 08:17

22. Superbuddy (Posts: 9; Member since: 11 Aug 2011)


It does restart. It only does it on Verizon Z10s because they are using older software releases. Get your facts straight, bro. My white Z10 with the transform shell restarts a lot and I fixed it by removing my sd card.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 06:24 2

7. xperiaDROID (Posts: 5042; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)


You clearly don't know what is a smartphone.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 11:27

14. apiskula (Posts: 534; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Blackberry is trash.

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 12:18

15. Xtasy (Posts: 270; Member since: 13 Jan 2013)


Jealous much

posted on 18 Apr 2013, 13:10

16. apiskula (Posts: 534; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)


Jealous of blackberry? Uhm not at all. Nothing I will ever want!

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