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Best phones for games: here is how powerful graphics in our mobile devices really are

0. phoneArena 24 Sep 2013, 08:24 posted on

We’ve often said that the latest smartphone games have reached console-like graphics and that’s not even a metaphor anymore…

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posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:55 3

16. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Victor, these lads calculated the Mali T628 MP6 (to be shipped with the Exynos 5420 variant of the Galaxy Note III and Note 10.1 2014 edition) as 108.7 GFlops:


posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:05 1

18. Victor.H (Posts: 658; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Thanks, much appreciated! Those theoretical calculations look about right, but we'd rather wait for more information about the Mali T628 before publishing the results. We'll update when we have more on this!

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:10 1

20. _Bone_ (Posts: 2154; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)

Yes, it's better to go with a more official one. Wikipedia list the MP6 @ 600MHz at 115,2 GFLOPS, but i'm not sure Samsung actually did announce the GPU for the 5420.


posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:40

25. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1524; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)

You should take the 102.34 GFLOPs

6 * SIMD16 * 2 FLOPs * 0.533GHz = 102.34 GFLOPs

As the calculations in the original table are Anand-like, that is without the TMUs (Texture Mapping units), and only calculating the Pixel/Vertex shaders power.

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 03:31

63. hmmm... (Posts: 78; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)

Hmm... here is a link that differentiate the performance of adreno 320 with s4 pro and s600. The s4 pro with adreno 320 is close to the result you showed. Adreno 330 has about 130 gigaflops. Not really sure if the source can be trusted. I can't post links yet, not enough post, but you can search it on the japanese language wiki. search for 'FLOPS'

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:33 1

4. tedkord (Posts: 11925; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Consoles of yesteryear, maybe.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:33 2

6. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)

7 years old and still better.

A high end single desktop card, the 780 can hit 4 teradflops with an overclock. And has next gen cards being announced tommrow, phone aren't even comparable to next gen/PC.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:52

14. HansGoneInsane (unregistered)

Surprise, surprise :)

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:53 1

15. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

exactly its impressive how these 7/8 old console still give us mindblowing graphics in games like gtav/last of us/uncharted/red dead redeption and next gen console already cost less than flagship phone its no brainer to buy smartphone for games

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:43

10. Bfrenz (Posts: 113; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

What about Mali GPUs?

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:49 2

12. Rehankhan (Posts: 323; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)

there is no phone that can give you console like graphics unless you are talking about ps2 and original xbox why not just buy a $200 ps3/xbox 360 if you really want to play games even less powerfull vita is better for gaming than these smatphones

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 08:49 5

13. imparanoic (Posts: 88; Member since: 15 Oct 2012)

slightly unfair comparison, home consoles vs mobile phones/tablet, surely ps vita and 3ds is much better comparision

Consoles Name
GPU Name

67 MHz

PICA 200
200 MHz

R4000 x 2
333 MHz

SGX543 MP4+
400 MHz

PowerVR2 CLX2
100 MHz

XGPU (Geforce 3+)
233 MHz
7.3 (CPU+GPU)

ATI R500 Xenos
500 MHz

800 MHz

PlayStation 2
147 MHz
6.2 (EE+GS)

PlayStation 3
550 MHz

playStation 4
800 MHz

62.5 MHz

162 MHz

ATI HollyWood
243 MHz

Wii U
550 MHz

Geforce ULP x 12

(Tegra 3)
520 Mhz

Mali-400 MP2

400 mhz

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:07

19. Victor.H (Posts: 658; Member since: 27 May 2011)

Great, thanks for those numbers! The idea is to give a bird-eye view of GPU performance across different platforms, not so much to compare with mobile consoles.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:11

21. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)

Don't mobile gpus support advanced shaders? If you look at games like dead trigger you will notice the environment lacks detail. It reminds me of the original call of duty. The character models are great but once you get close they also lack detail. It's the same with shadow gun.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 09:21

22. nlbates66 (Posts: 328; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)

it's not quite as simple as just picking and comparing numbers...

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 10:05

27. Samsungadroidrules (Posts: 104; Member since: 28 Jul 2013)

Samsung S4, Great for Gaming! :)

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 11:33

36. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)

Also those GPUs with custom Kernels can be clocked up to 800Mhz

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 12:13

40. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

nah its not you always wory about battery in the end unless you pluged just like the console and still get 7 years old graphics if you use to play lastest console/PC games these nwest games on moblies will be gimics although they are good TIME-PASS

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 10:07

29. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

Snapdragon 800 anywhere? I know it scores over 100 gflops

BTW Kepler will change everything next year

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 10:37

30. imparanoic (Posts: 88; Member since: 15 Oct 2012)

gaming more than just visuals, real tactile feel and precise control is just as important
sony xperia phones seems to focus on gaming, native dual support is the key. a real joypad and one that is much much better than all those wannabe gaming pad manufacturers, only if hori release mobile joypads then that would be even better.

I wonder if Microsoft offer the same for their recently purchased nokia mobile via xbox 360 pad support

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 10:40

31. papss (unregistered)

Hmm who ever thought gaming on cells was a great idea is just silly. The touch screen just isn't responsive enough and has no feedback. As a gamer I laugh at the thought that this is a viable solution for playing games. I guess my opinion is just that.. My opinion.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 11:05

33. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)

Then your not a real gamer then. I've been gaming since i was 5. I'm 23 now. I enjoy all kinds of gaming. We are now to a point where mobile games are just if not more feature rich as handhelds games like gba,psp,vita,3ds. I'm not saying mobile gaming will overtake consoles/PCs but they are not something to underestimate. There was even a handheld that came out in the 90s that was supposed to have a touch screen. I don't remember the name of it but it was never implemented because of cost issues. On a side note i have personally beat games on a touch screen like Megaman X-3,Metal slug with one credit,Super mario bros 3,Fzero gp legend,and even all of the megaman zero. This one done through emulation. Yes it is very difficult to control games like those on a touch screen but once you learn your handeye coordination will skyrocket.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 16:07

49. papss (unregistered)

So you must know me? Right... Kid I've been gaming since before you were alive. Game play is everything and phones don't have that so to me gaming on phones is pretty weak

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 11:54

37. mrmessma (Posts: 188; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)

And here I am sitting with my 2 year old computer with over 4k that I built for under $600...

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 12:10

39. livyatan (Posts: 867; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)

The PowerVR GPU in iPad 5 will have around 150GFLOPS, but combined with 2Gb of DDR3 RAM, it should be capable of better performance than PS3/Xbox 360.

And the upcoming Kepler ULP GeForce in Tegra 5 should offer incredible numbers - up to 350GFLOPS, with phone versions cracking the 200GFLOP barrier in H1 next year.

Btw the Adreno 330 is the first phone GPU to have crossed the 100GFLOPS.

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 12:56

42. SonyPS4 (Posts: 344; Member since: 21 May 2013)


posted on 24 Sep 2013, 13:16

44. AKumar47 (Posts: 48; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)

just waiting for the phoneblock, haha! with a adreno 1200 in a snapdragon 2000, 5'' hd res with a 5k mah juice... haha! with a changeable oses...

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 13:43 1

47. softfurryanus (banned) (Posts: 232; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)

I wish...

posted on 24 Sep 2013, 18:20

50. shuji_kiritani (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Apr 2013)

wtf is this white box Chinese phone?

posted on 25 Sep 2013, 06:18

64. LumiaLover (Posts: 160; Member since: 27 Sep 2012)

its a Chinese phone in a white box..silly!!

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