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Benefits from Sprint's upcoming LTE network

0. phoneArena 07 Oct 2011, 11:18 posted on

We knew it was coming, but not that Sprint finally decided to share its plans of transitioning to LTE, let us explore all the benefits that will come from this...

This is a discussion for a news. To read the whole news, click here

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 11:36 6

1. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)

---" So, why did Sprint go for WiMAX initially? Well, our guess is that the carrier simply wanted to be ahead of the competition when it comes to outing a "4G network"."---


Unused spectrum can only be held onto for a small time. If not utilized in this time frame, the said spectrum needs to be forfeited. Sprint's 2.5Ghz spectrum was due to expire. WiMAX was a ready technology. LTE was just talk. Yes, being first was beneficial, but it wasn't the main ploy for going WiMAX.

In Short, Sprint really didn't have a choice. It was move it of lose it.

John B.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:13 3

16. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

Wow...somebody actually figured it out.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 11:37 2

2. evo-ninja (Posts: 31; Member since: 23 May 2011)

I will be the first 1 to say I think they screwed up, I love sprint I've been with them over 10 years, they jump the gun on the wimax, an for that one move they will pay,sometimes you have to be patient

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 12:14 3

3. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


Did you not read my post before yours? Sprint did not have a choice. The move to a ready technology was imminent or they would lose the spectrum necessay for the rollout. LTE was not a ready technology. It was not in complete control of Sprint for deciding on WiMAX or LTE. At least they were smart to include LTE hardware into the WiMAX infrastructure when building it.

Please understand the provisioning of their premise before condemning them for the move.

Sprint gets a bad wrap no matter what they do. But it is also important to understand the great things they do as well.

This news is very useful and exciting for Sprint and their customers as well as potential subscribers alike.

John B.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 22:51

24. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)

No there was a choice they were just inpatient and failed!!! like other people say sprint will always be the first to do things but they always end up failing

posted on 11 Oct 2011, 08:38

39. QQw3rty (unregistered)

I dont think sprint really screwed up.

The wimax 4G is a huge difference from 3G and I'm satisfied with the speed.

And if they want to upgrade to LTE, even better. I'm still going to have 4G until then aka satisfactory.

btw I'm still using my EVO 4G since it first came out and I dont see a need to upgrade until next year or so. Even with all these new beefy phones coming out.

That's how satisfied I am.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 13:11

4. NowWhat (unregistered)

what about the gs2 we just got will it be able to use lte on sprint next year?

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 13:20 2

5. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)

Are you stupid or what? Let me help you out. WiMax and LTE are two different technologies and are NOT interchangeable. The GSII is WiMax. So no, the GSII will not work with LTE. Start saving your money for the GSIII

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 16:26 3

11. takeiteazu (unregistered)

Wow take it easy why so much rage he just asked a question. You E-Thugs make me laugh lol

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 14:36

6. Perry83 (unregistered)

They didnt include LTE into the current Wimax network infrastructure. LTE and Wimax are completely differenet technologies. Sprint Network Vision will upgrade all their tower to multimode towers that can operate multiple technologies and frequencies. It doesnt include Wimax into these new towers because the Clearwire's Wimax network is separate from the IDEN or CDMA networks.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 15:15 1

9. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


LTE and WiMAX are NOT completely different technologies. In fact, they are far closer in compatibility than CDMA Vs.GSM due to both being based on the OFDM technology. The MiMo base stations will be installed and a simple software upgrade will be performed to make the multiple frequencies correlate with one station at each tower. Very efficient, cost effective and more notably, a quick transition.

Clearwire and Sprint ARE different companies, but remember, they built the WiMAX ecosystem together using Sprint's infrastructure. That was part of the partnership deal.

John B.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 14:55 2

7. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)

#1 Benefit, they'll actually expand it unlike WiMAX

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 15:13

8. shanker (unregistered)

what about guys like me??? im due for an upgrade right now and i was about to get the sg2. Now should i wait for an LTE phone? WTH!!??

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 16:58

13. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

Dude, 2 words: Nexus Prime

posted on 08 Oct 2011, 08:21

28. threeline (Posts: 267; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)

Is sprint getting the Nexus Prime? I haven't that they were. I hope so, the phone is a beast!

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:40

18. belovedson (Posts: 975; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

its due out in 2013 so get the sg2 wait until upgrade time and move to lte phone

posted on 08 Oct 2011, 09:16

29. shanker (unregistered)

whats due out in 2013? lte is due out in like first quarter. which really means 2nd quarter...

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 15:42 2

10. Perry83 (unregistered)

Im speaking in terms of interoperabiltiy of the devices and network, ie LTE devices cant be used on Wimax and vice versa. They're separate companies, but Sprint currently owns 54% stake in Clearwire.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 16:54

12. Rico (unregistered)

Who cares as long as we sprint customers get to txt email talk and use the internet and also have gd reception we will be gd so who cares what you people gotta say

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:04

14. musicianguy101 (unregistered)

What frequency is Sprint going to use? I thought the available LTE bandwidth was bought up by VZW and AT&T on 700Mhz. Where is this bandwidth coming from, are they (Sprint) borrowing some of their WiMax spectrum?

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:12 1

15. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:16

17. Slammer (Posts: 1515; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)

---" LTE devices cant be used on Wimax and vice versa. They're separate companies, but Sprint currently owns 54% stake in Clearwire."---

I agree on both accounts. In fact, as I stated, the companies are separate. However, in order to form the partnership, Sprint exchanged their infrastructure for 54% share of Clearwire. So the towers are tied together in ownership terms.

This leads to the LTE/WiMAX compatibility you spoke of.

The directive is not to make the two the same, but rather coexist.
So, I agree the two are not interoperable. We would need two separate radios in the handsets to achieve this.To clearify my original post, that is not what I meant. My understanding, is that Sprint installed the newest version of WiMAX when building out the network. Since there are many different variants of WiMAX technicalities, the older designs are not compatible with coupling an LTE mutiplex to the system. The latest version that Sprint installed, has this capability and allows easy coupling so the two can manage the different coding without conflict. This makes the transition far easier than having to start over. They simply change out some software and continue on.

John B.

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 17:41

19. belovedson (Posts: 975; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

thanks slammer i have been reading your posts

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 18:01

20. L3610n (Posts: 47; Member since: 01 Jul 2011)

Slammer, you are very knowledgable. Thanks.

I just can't wait when Sprint switches to LTE. I heard they were getting a lower spectrum which means better wall penetration right?

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 19:57 1

22. johkly (unregistered)

bottom line is sprint is always behind.they will end up being bought or bankrupt,

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 22:48

23. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)

dude i agree sprint isnt even competition for att or verizon

posted on 07 Oct 2011, 22:53

25. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)

I highly doubt Sprint's (future) LTE will ever be able to par or get near Verizon's it's just not possible

posted on 08 Oct 2011, 04:08

26. tedkord (Posts: 9948; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

I've gotta disagree. Verizon's LTE will likely wind up being the slowest of the major carriers. That's always been the Verizon tradeoff - better coverage, lower speed. My 3g on Verizon is ridiculously slow. 4G is awesome, but I have no doubt that ATT and Sprint will have much faster LTE. And Sprint will keep unlimited the longest.

posted on 08 Oct 2011, 11:43

30. Isseyphresh (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Sep 2011)

No not lightaquared. Sprint is still waiting on lightsquared's
1600mhz bands to be approved by the FCC. Sprint is discontinuing the IDEN network. Those bands will then be used by CDMA and CDMA bands to LTE.

Current layout
IDEN 800mhz
CDMA 1900mhz
WiMAX 2500mhz

Network Vision
CDMA 800mhz
LTE 1900mhz
WiMAX 2500mhz

posted on 08 Oct 2011, 13:59 1

31. Derpmeister (unregistered)

Best part, is that once Lightsquared gets passed the FCC, LTE will be on 1600mhz and 1900mhz bands.

Sprint might actually make something great here.

posted on 09 Oct 2011, 20:23

35. ima757boy (unregistered)

...just gives me a reason to get a new phone. GALAXY S3 sounds real good to me even though i just got my EPIC TOUCH bout 3wks ago.

posted on 10 Oct 2011, 09:23

37. SprinT4You (Posts: 6; Member since: 11 May 2010)

I don't see what the rush is too get an LTE phone. By the time those multi mode base stations are up and running you may see some interoperability. You never know. The 3G/4G phone or tablet your using now may not work on LTE until a device is actually made with an LTE radio inside that supports all three and probably their push-to-talk service too. One or all of these possibilities could happen. Look at it this way. You wouln't want to throw your current investment away just because a carrier is moving to a new technology. These smatphones and tablets come at a huge cost. I wouldn't want to get rid of a fairly new device that hasn't really depreciated in value because of a new technology then the device doesn't work with the new technology. Let's be patient and let Sprint and its partners get it right and built correctly. REMEMBER HASTE MAKES WASTE!!!

posted on 10 Oct 2011, 11:39

38. Perry83 (unregistered)

Im looking forward to the tranistion to LTE and improved 3G (1X Advanced and Possibly EVDO Rev B). I think the new Qualcom chips (http://www.phonearena.com/news/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-S4-white-papers-released-a-look-at-the-first-28nm-chips_id22849) will play a big part in Network Vision.

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