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Barack Obama says Steve Jobs is a symbol of the American Dream

0. phoneArena 23 Dec 2010, 09:31 posted on

Barack Obama has reserved some special praise for Steve Jobs, citing him as an example of the American Dream...

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posted on 26 Dec 2010, 03:58

54. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Brikz,
You made a comment that this is a "phone website". I commented back saying that politics effects the cellular world. In fact the FCC directly effects what we can and can't do with our phones.

And brikz, our economy was having some serious issues before Obama. But seriously, look at the numbers. Bush left with approx 400,000,000,000 in debt. Obama came in and now it is 1,800,000,000,000 (and that was in less than a year after taking office). Which is over 4 times as high as Bush took it.
I am not posting BS. What I said about the economy is true. It was bad, but now its horrid. If you want to go look up those numbers, be my guest. They are on the internet for everyone to see.

I dont watch porn on my phone. So I personally dont mind if they take that away. But if you want to blame Obama for ruining your bathroom breaks at work, be my guest. And you would actually be able to blame him because I believe he has nominated 2 out of the 5 people in that administration.

Now, why dont you argue the actual points instead of using a straw man argument.... before I move on, you will probably need to go Google what a "straw man argument" is.

Now go ahead and TRY to argue the points. I know it can be difficult. But give it a shot. Go back and read this again if you need to. :)

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 22:59 6

25. brikz4real (Posts: 173; Member since: 24 Dec 2008)


Ya know, this is a "phone" web site..but if you must throw in political rhetoric dear "right wing" posters ... consider all the dumb shit Bush said WITH or WITHOUT a teleprompter. And now, back to phone discussions.

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 16:12 1

61. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


Tell me, why exactly do you believe in liberal ideals?

posted on 27 Dec 2010, 14:07

64. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Because it gives them free shit!

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 00:26 3

26. apocalypsebc (Posts: 148; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


I agree with you Ryry. even if he didnt know what one was, it's not wrong to ask for help and help one another. Some people just like to complain and act ignorant. What do you think of the ex. president bush...

posted on 25 Dec 2010, 00:00 4

48. brikz4real (Posts: 173; Member since: 24 Dec 2008)


Ya know smp, if you ain't with one party, you're with the other...unless you're one of those duchebags who'd rather complain about everything under the sun. The president gave kudos to a man for living the American dream and you post BS pertaining to the economy...a economy that was already in turmoil when he took office. And yes, I heard of the FCC. But I guess you will blame Obama for THAT too, especially when you're phone can't access porn sites due to FCC regulations...RETARD. Now, if you are finished posting, you may return to your parent's basement and finish caressing yourself with your phone.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 09:42 4

1. cnance (Posts: 8; Member since: 16 Dec 2010)


"Expect to be Rich" what is that suppose to mean.lol Obama sees Jobs as more tax dollars he can take. I bet if we ask Obama what one of theses products are he could not name it without the help of his aids.lol

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 11:00 9

2. Ryry oh yea (unregistered)


You really think that the President of the United States doesn't know what an iPhone or iPad is? Yea right...and Obama is just promoting a prosperous middle class which doesn't sound too bad to me so you should probably think before you insult our president LOL!

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 17:22 3

15. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


BAM!
Exactly.
Like you said, the guy cant hardly do anything without a teleprompter.
He has effectively made the most powerful nation "look a' fool" to the world.
He freakin high jacked our economy and quadrupled our deficit! And he didn't even start any new wars! I mean WTF!!! (not that I want any new wars).

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 05:48 3

30. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


I never even said I was a bush supporter. You just assume obama haters are "right wing bush lovers" because you are just that narrow minded.

Politics effect the wireless world. Ever heard of the FCC???

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 13:30 5

5. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


You're an idiot. If you had any common sense at all you would know that his comment "I bet if we ask Obama what one of theses products are he could not name it without the help of his aids" is referring to the fact that he needs a teleprompter to do anything. And here we go again with this "middle class" garbage. What about the lower class? What about the people who can actually create jobs? Open your mind up. It's not about one class succeeding. It's about everyone being able to succeed.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 12:19 5

3. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)


Fuck u OneBigAssMistakeAmerica. Then u just go and over tax the guy for being rich. But Jobs deserves it, he is part of the tree hunging terriorist. But i love my iphone made by the slaves of china :)

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 13:31 3

6. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


It's been awhile since I've heard the Obama acronym haha.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 13:21 1

4. mj (unregistered)


cut the bullshit
if someone donates me a free iphone i will say the same

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 17:02 2

13. hawk62 (Posts: 320; Member since: 21 Nov 2009)


How the hell does the iphone help the US? I have one but come on, it is build in asia!

How is his secretay in a higher bracket?

Taxes keep the gov't running, Running ie over spending, wasting, throwing money away.

He does NOT deserve any respect. NONE! and history will show him as one of the worst our country has had.

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 16:00

59. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


Ever heard of being over taxed?

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 13:57 7

7. Manny (unregistered)


People kill me. The President of the United States only praised Steve Jobs for making great products and that the sales of those products are great for the American economy. Everybody must pay taxes. But I dont think its right for Steve Jobs's secretary to be in a higher tax bracket than Steve Jobs himself. Taxes are meant to sustain our government. Other Senators and representatives from each party support taxes. The only difference is that each party wishes to tax one segment of the population more or less.
P.S. President Barack Obama is the President of the United States and deserves to be labeled and respected as such.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 21:26 1

21. remixfa (Posts: 14323; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the iphone only helps the US by sales tax, all the manufacturing goes on in china. but hey, we keep voting idiot liberals that want to keep raising corperate taxes. we are the 2nd highest corperate tax rate in the world. if you could save a billion a year in pure profit by moving your headquarters, wouldnt u? Want to change that? Vote for someone that wants to LOWER taxes, not raise them. The more jobs that come TO america the more taxes that get paid over all.

Steve Jobs is a liberal control freak. He is a dictator that controls every fascit of his little world. Thats why obama loves him, he wants that kind of power over the rest of the US.

His secretary probably does pay a higher tax than he does. the TRUELY rich get paid off dividends and stocks which is taxed at a mere 15%. Only small business owners (S corps) and a very very small amount of people make 250k a year to be taxed at the highest rates. So next time you vote to "tax the rich" (who pay like 75% of all the taxes already), u are really voting for higher corperate taxes because of the sheer amount of S corps... which raises prices ON YOU, and sends more jobs OVER SEAS.
Politicians know that, and they know you DONT. You really think they would be voting to raise THEIR taxes? You think all these big billionaires like Gates, Jobs, and Oprah are really voting to have THEIR taxes raised when they try to convince u to vote Democrat??? if so you really are an idiot.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 16:35 8

10. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


So other than writing words on a message board, what are you really doing to change things? Are you writing letters and calling your congress person. Are you gathering a group of people who feel exactly like you do... or are you just complaining from your computer chair?

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 14:02 6

8. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Just mention "OBAMA" or "BARACK" and all of the looney people come out of the woodwork....

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 16:13 1

62. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


Imagine what would happen if "Bush" was mentioned...

posted on 26 Dec 2010, 16:01

60. DontHateOnS60 (Posts: 869; Member since: 20 Apr 2009)


So you must have had the utmost respect for George W. Bush then as well when he was our president. Glad to hear that.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 05:50 4

31. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Anyone gonna argue my point or are you just gonna vote it down because its an anti-obama comment???

Just try to argue that demand side economics is a good thing! Just freaking try and see what happens! I doubt those of you that have voted me down dont even know what that means and you had to google it.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 14:22 6

9. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


I have the utmost respect for Steve Jobs and especially our president.

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 17:24 5

16. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


Why would you have respect for a man who promotes demand side economics???

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 16:39 5

11. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I agree with Obama. We need more entrepreneurs like Jobs. Apple's business infrastructure is simply impressive and well balanced, and it benefits everyone's interests. I know that android and symbian fanboys would totally disagree, but if you fanboys haven't noticed, htc, samsung, motorola, and even the almight nokia, are all following Apple's way of business. Now that says more than what you hateful fanboys have to say :)

posted on 23 Dec 2010, 16:56 2

12. btbotimtim (Posts: 206; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


Mr.President, you are the biggest disappointment.
gay lover.

posted on 27 Dec 2010, 14:29

65. smpdx (Posts: 127; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)


530gemini
Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old.
I stated a few small things I have done and my plans for the future. I never bragged. You are simply confused. So on your next post I would like to see if you can argue about the actual point.
And the actual point is that Obama is a bad president.

And again, I dont respect people because of their title. You talked crap about Bush, but he still carries the title of president. So you are a hypocrite by your own standard.

And lastly, you shouldnt even be talking if you didnt even vote.

posted on 27 Dec 2010, 04:14 1

63. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I do think before I speak, unlike you who just brag about things like running for president.

Intelligent or not, you need to show respect to whoever is in position. I didn't even vote for Obama, but I will respect the majorities votes. He is still the President of my country.

Yes, goals are indeed important in life. Share it with your friends on facebook, or to those who care to know. Not here on Phone Arena.

There is an appropriate place for boasting or sharing your community service. This article is not about you mister, or whatever you've done in your community. What now? You want us to give you a certificate of appreciation or recognition? Geez louise.

posted on 24 Dec 2010, 04:53 2

28. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Wow, why don't you run for president then. You seem to think that you know better than Obama. Let me guess what your response would be. You'd say, "I wouldn't win because American voters are dumb.", right? I thought so :)

People like you are the ones that make the situation worse than it already is. Instead of doing something to help, you're the type who would rather point fingers, blame other people, and would actually hope for the situation to get even worse, just so you can say in the end, "I told you so." . People like you are despicable.

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