Bad news root crew, the DROID 3 has a locked bootloader
0. phoneArena posted on 07 Jul 2011, 18:55
The big question surrounding every Motorola handset these days is whether or not the bootloader will be locked, and confirmation has come for the DROID 3 that it does have a locked bootloader. Sorry modders...
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1. Immolate posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:51 1 1
This article is along the lines of: "Bad news: newest iPhone is made by Apple". I'm holding my breath for that one............ pwah! Who'm I kidding?
2. Sniggly posted on 07 Jul 2011, 20:03 2 2
And the bootloader will be unlocked by the end of the year.
3. Goldeneye posted on 07 Jul 2011, 22:07 1 1
Is anybody surprised? Then Motorola wonders why their devices aren't doing as expected, their stupid decisions scare potential customers away to companies that have better reputation, ahem, HTC, and their bottom line piss their investors.
4. Sniggly posted on 07 Jul 2011, 22:28 2 2
Your hypothesis fails because HTC takes even further steps on some phones to stop rooting. Motorola announced already that by the end of the year they'll start unlocking bootloaders.
6. Goldeneye posted on 08 Jul 2011, 01:01 1 1
What I don't get is why Motorola insists in launching devices not completely ready, Xoom anyone? Useless SD card slot, need to send back the damn thing to make it LTE ready, now this, stupid!
7. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 01:17 2 2
That was a bad move, but they were trying to get a head start on the tablet market. In the end it did kind of bite them in the ass, but at worst, the XOOM is no worse than an iPad 2.
24. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 10:21 2 2
And a locked bootloader doesn't make it impossible to root.
28. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:41 1 3
Yes it does. Stop spreading misinformation. It makes it nearly impossible to root.
34. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:55 1 1
um my Droid 2 is rooted and it has a locked bootloader. it was actually really easy.
42. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:51 1 2
No it isn't.
60. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 18:10 1 1
yeah..it is. i even flashed a custom rom on it before.
102. Anto12 (unregistered) posted on 31 Jul 2011, 11:03 0 0
yes it really is, so is the x, both have locked bootloaders and were still rooted 2 weeks after release, you clearly have no idea what ur talking about so stop talking.
38. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:27 1 1
atrix was unlocked 1 day before it was even released.... it has a locked bootloader
43. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:52 1 1
How can it be unlocked if it's locked?
49. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:03 1 1
meant root, my bad
26. iHateCrapple posted on 08 Jul 2011, 11:36 1 1
Sniggly, HTC has announced that they are making ALL of their future phones with unlocked bootloaders. They actually stated pride in developers and their desire to make phones that encourage the unlocking. If I am not mistaken, I think that the Incredible 2 is an example of this. They have always been root-friendly. What is interesting is back some months ago, Motorola commented that they were actually not going to unlock their bootloader and basically told customers to suck it. Goldeneye is definitely right about their stupid decisions, especially since they are suddenly going back on that now.
27. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 11:43 1 0
Motorola came out and made known that they were happily going to keep their bootloaders unlocked in the future just like HTC did after they did a poll on Facebook to see what people would like to see on future Motorola devices. updates will come to unlock the bootloaders starting with the Atrix.
8. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 01:29 3 2
So much for the unlocked bootloader there were talking about. Guess that means more Verizon bloatware that can't be removed along with the possibility of being Bingified.
9. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 01:39 2 2
why are you giving Verizon the heat? they have nothing to do with why there's a temporarily locked bootloader on the Droid 3.
14. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 04:09 2 2
Because without the bootloader unlocked, you can't root which means you can't remove Verizon's bloatware.
21. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 09:17 1 1
you can root... ever heard of super one click?
29. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:42 0 3
Not with a locked bootloader.
35. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:57 0 0
yeah, you can. you should do your research before you decide to come in here and look like an idiot anyway.
39. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:29 0 0
defy has locked bootloader and it took 5 minutes to root it (including downloading time)
25. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 10:43 0 0
yeah, z4root, look it up and quit b****in' all the time.
30. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:43 0 2
41. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:42 0 0
44. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:52 1 1
Voids your warranty though
50. protozeloz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:04 0 0
same as jailbreak, and can be undone
52. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:30 0 0
i've sent in a few rooted devices. Verizon doesn't care.
96. Kiboe (unregistered) posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:36 1 0
so? unless you load malicios software or throw it around like an idiot then you won't need to, and what thump said, VZW could care less what you do with your phone.
you bought it, you legally own it, when you obtain a phone through a carrier, it's legally yours to do whatever you want with it
and a locked bootloader, all that means is that you can't flash a custom rom onto the device, doesn't mean you can't root it.
17. B (unregistered) posted on 08 Jul 2011, 06:58 1 1
You CAN root regardless of the state of the bootloader. Then you can FREEZE the bloatware you don't like.
31. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:44 1 2
Oh yeah, like that totally does anything to free up memory and remove it permanently
40. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:32 1 1
I already explained at great length how minuscule the memory usage on Motorola bloatware is, Miz. Get your facts straight.
45. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:54 1 1
And your explanation is still flawed because it still hoggs up memory and space on the phone. And you still overlook all the permissions they have.
53. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:31 1 1
"hoggs" up memory is an exaggeration...
63. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 20:04 1 1
Miz, I already told you that the total memory sucked up by my X's bloatware is 0.16 PERCENT of my phone's total internal memory, which is equivalent to an Animorphs novel in the back of a Ford Expedition.
65. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 20:39 1 1
i don't really get the whole Animorphs in the back of the Ford Expedition thing. xD
66. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 21:37 1 1
Animorphs books are thin and not that tall or wide. The Ford Expedition is a freaking huge SUV with a cavernous cargo bay. See the analogy now? :)
67. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 21:49 0 0
oh okay, i never read any Animorph novels so i didn't know they were comparatively shorter than other books but yes i see it now. certainly an unorthodox analogy i've got to say. xD
74. The_Miz posted on 09 Jul 2011, 02:22 1 1
Justifying the bloatware on Droids won't help, Sniggy. It's much more noticeable than that.
79. Thump3rDX17 posted on 09 Jul 2011, 02:46 0 0
then..make it not noticeable? we've already explained it to you, if you don't get it that's too bad.
82. Sniggly posted on 09 Jul 2011, 03:21 0 0
Yes, 7 icons in your app tray is EXTREMELY noticeable. *rolls eyes* Miz, why don't you just learn that you don't know what you're talking about and go read up and study before opening your fat, ignorant piehole?
11. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 01:47 2 2
Christ Almighty, Miz, are you really this stupid? Motorola never promised that the bootloaders on their phones would be unlocked until later this year.
13. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 04:09 2 2
Lol, don't get mad at me for calling out the truth. Motorola promised to unlock the bootloaders, and yet they're releasing the Droid 3 with a locked bootloader lol. So no, I'm not stupid for Motorola lying to customers.
18. B (unregistered) posted on 08 Jul 2011, 07:02 1 1
They gave a timeline for unlocking the bootloaders. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make them liars.
32. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:45 1 1
And yet they could've made a start by keeping the bootloader unlocked for the Droid 3.
23. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 10:14 2 2
They didn't lie, you dumb f**k. They said that they would start unlocking bootloaders nearer to the end of the year. We haven't reached that timeline yet.
33. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:47 1 2
And yet HTC announced it a month ago and the 3D was released with an unlocked bootloader after it was announced that it would be locked. Get over yourself and stop being so bitter about a damn cellphone article.
Plain and simple, it's a stupid move to lock the bootloader after promising customers that it'll be unlocked.
36. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 13:00 1 1
i'm really tired of you Miz...
46. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:55 1 2
Then get off the internet. I have as much right to comment as you do.
54. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:33 1 1
i'm not saying don't comment just stop being so ridiculous guy. yeesh.
37. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 15:37 1 1
Yeah, and Motorola gave a specific timetable in which they'll do it. If 2012 comes without unlocked bootloaders, then you'll be right. Until then though, you're just a stupid troll f**k who doesn't know what he's talking about.
47. The_Miz posted on 08 Jul 2011, 16:57 1 1
Lol, someone needs to calm the temper and stop being so bitter over someone's opinion. Since when did giving a timetable ever meant anything? Oh right, it didn't. It didn't stop HTC from keeping the Evo 3D bootloader unlocked.
I am right, period. If they actually cared, which they don't, they'd unlock the bootloader right now.
56. Thump3rDX17 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 17:35 0 0
haven't you ever heard of giving the value of a doubt? i'm going to assume Motorola is going to unlock their bootloaders when they say they will. why would they admit they made a mistake and not fix it? that would be stupid.
75. The_Miz posted on 09 Jul 2011, 02:24 0 1
Why do you guys keep trying to justify Motorola? They lock their bootloaders down and release phones with the godawful Motoblur.
80. Thump3rDX17 posted on 09 Jul 2011, 02:49 0 0
i bet you've never even had a phone with Blur, you're probably just running on what everyone has said about past builds but there's nothing wrong with recent iterations of Motorola's UI which btw isn't called Motoblur anymore.
97. Kiboe (unregistered) posted on 16 Jul 2011, 13:49 0 0
i don't even think he has an android powered phone...he probably uses a cheap blackberry storm as an excuse. (blackberries are smartphones, but not as powerfull as androids, they are usefull, though)
64. Sniggly posted on 08 Jul 2011, 20:09 1 1
Stupid people annoy me, Miz. I've been dealing with a lot of very stupid people this week, and you are also incredibly stupid. Motorola takes a while with many things they do software wise. They're probably making sure they don't screw it up and brick peoples' phones, because if you mess up the bootloader, then your customers don't have a phone. They also seem to be planning on rolling out the unlocks in a large batch, rather than piecemeal like HTC does.