As predicted: Google asks Microsoft to shut down new YouTube app
0. phoneArena 15 May 2013, 17:05 posted on
Microsoft recently released a brand new YouTube app for Windows Phone. The app was a huge update and added a ton of features that WP users had been asking for. Unfortunately, it also added some features that Google expressly prohibits in its terms of service. We expected that this would come back to haunt Microsoft and it has. Google has asked that the new YouTube app be shut down...
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1. darkvadervip (Posts: 365; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)
Bull crap! It will hunt google in the end.
20. sharks (Posts: 233; Member since: 16 Feb 2013)
Hunt? Haunt? That's what Microsoft does! It is being run by a group of monkeys since Bill Gates took off. As usual, Microsoft expected to get away with it by doing whatever it wants and disregarding any patent infringements during the development of its YouTube app. I hate bullies.
51. papss (unregistered)
I hate big brother watching everything I do so I guess we both hate things
128. joey_sfb (Posts: 5408; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Both of them has to stop. Microsoft should not develop app that hack Google service by allowing user to skip the 5 second advertisement and violates copyright. Google should just make a you tube app for Windows Mobile. Save all this hassle.
121. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
good thing i downloaded the app already.
62. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
hell yea, hey google and ms shake your hand and make best friendship then we will happy and you both guys will happy, happy ending. Co'mon guys stay friendly so your customers will happy.
65. wendygarett (unregistered)
Shameless Microsoft, trying to play pirate game with Google... In order to crave some attention from public... Smh...
69. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Hahaha ROTFLMFAO GO GOOGLE,FTW.
WP8 won't, and arnt allowed this.
Yes really very good news. Me so happy*®
73. windroid (unregistered)
Me so happy with MS response. Makes Google look so stupid.
81. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Look whose talking jealous wp8 fan, o don't be sad and cry. U must be in rage and in violent mode, take it easy, Android or else nothing...®
89. windroid (unregistered)
I already told you... I have and use and love my Android tablet. Is just a matter of a dirty game Google is doing, which is a shame for such a nice company. I used to love Google like I did with Apple until they start to play dirty.
In response to the Android fan in rage for such a polite response.
124. VZWuser76 (Posts: 3887; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Yeah, because if anyone violates Microsoft's terms and conditions they laugh it off, right?
Google's terms and conditions were in place before this app was created. MS knew they were breaking said terms and went ahead anyway. If the situation were reversed you'd be calling for Google's head on a pike.
132. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Microsoft is "more than happy" to follow the guidelines...they just need Google to provide the proper tools and necessary access....so it comes right back to Google
3. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
No surprises here. Microsoft can't expect to get away when they released an app without permission from google AND Microsoft removed ads from Youtube which can hurt Google's income.
Edit: also having the ability to download videos doesn't help Youtube (and Youtube Partners).
9. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't AdBlock which you can get on Android, Firefox, and Chrome all remove the ads? If so, wouldn't that hurt Google's income? In fact, wouldn't it hurt Google's income even more considering Android's market share in the first quarter was above 70%, of which if even 10% use AdBlock, that would total all WP8 users in the U.S.?
And hey, if you don't want Microsoft to circumvent your authority, why not either provide the app yourself or at least provide the ability for Microsoft to make their own?
Yeah, something tells me ad revenue wasn't their only motive. This is, in layman's terms, plain and simple c***blocking.
14. alltechinside (Posts: 248; Member since: 21 Apr 2013)
Adblock for Android has been removed if you didn't know. You do have a point about chrome, Adblock exists there.
I'm not saying Microsoft shouldn't make a Youtube App, they should have not allowed users to download videos on Youtube and get rid of ads. Adding these certainly helps the user but it is not good for Google.
22. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Thanks for that info and no I did not know that; I'm not an Android user currently.
I have no qualms in saying that Microsoft should not be enabling features that can hurt the content creators of YouTube. Google has every right to ask Microsoft to take it down for that reason. My only point is that Google is seemingly doing a lot to inhibit WP8 from having even a serviceable YouTube app.
37. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Microsoft & Nokia will eventually sue a few Android OEM's into bankruptcy, and then Google will end up wanting to play more friendly ;o)
60. MartyK (Posts: 784; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Play friendlier?, you must be New to the world of smart phone and lawsuit, because if you wasn't, you would know the only companies who's not trying to play friendly is your beloved Microsoft and Apple!
68. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
YouTube is only exclusive to his and android, ms wp is not available, and shouldn't be...®
155. znellu (Posts: 74; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
You are a waste in the this tech world Troll. I have been reading articles in this website for quite a long time now. All your comments in the articles look so childish and ridiculous. Just look at them yourself. Such stupid statements.
Even Android users don't like what you say. Pathetic... :|
111. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
You know those android OEMs also sell windows phone devices? And most of them already have agreements with them?
104. EspHack (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)
so microsoft should care about what is good for google?
105. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Why the F&*^ should users be prevented from downloading videos appearing on youtube?? Google does not own the videos; What it does have is an agreement with the producer/owner of the video to use it exclusively on youtube.
50. volcano (Posts: 341; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
they can't fix it without google help and premission to access necessary API's
see how evil google is
here is microsoft response
"YouTube is consistently one of the top apps downloaded by smartphone users on all platforms, but Google has refused to work with us to develop an app on par with other platforms. Since we updated the YouTube app to ensure our mutual customers a similar YouTube experience, ratings and feedback have been overwhelmingly positive. We'd be more than happy to include advertising but need Google to provide us access to the necessary APIs. In light of Larry Page's comments today calling for more interoperability and less negativity, we look forward to solving this matter together for our mutual customers."
61. MartyK (Posts: 784; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)
Dude, you need to understand....YouTube is Google property!, they do not have to let anyone connect to YouTube off they don't want them to!....
People and companies always want a free hand out!..smh
98. trexnkrumpets (Posts: 45; Member since: 15 Jan 2013)
Dude, you need to understand....Youtube is user-content driven. If Google were to actively start denying certain parties from using it their subscribers would diminish and their publishers would find alternative sources to host their content from. You should also understand.... Competition is good for the vast majority; including yourself. [ If google were to block said services from anyone, it'd be a very un-ethical move on their part since 99% of the content isn't even created by them. ]
117. hypergreatthing (Posts: 43; Member since: 13 Jun 2012)
What's hard about one of the biggest companies in the world creating their own youtube knockoff? after all it's user provided content anyways. Why does microsoft want to ride someone else's coat tails? they should start to innovate instead of steal.
157. Damien_666 (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)
Whose coat tails was Google riding when they BOUGHT YouTube?
You talk like YouTube was sweat and blood effort by Google.
Probably 70% of their services were bought, not done by themselves.
87. ZeroCide (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Jan 2013)
That is an Awesome response. Calling Larry out in there.
112. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
But that makes me wonder, what about the 3rd party YouTube apps on both the android market and the windows market? Why can they build apps that do not violate and MS can't?
5. volcano (Posts: 341; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
what happened to "Larry Page: “we should be building great things that don't exist” not focus on petty wars" .
6. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2701; Member since: 26 May 2011)
This isn't a "petty war" this is a simple case of Microsoft ignoring the rules. Google is just trying to protect the content partners on YouTube.
10. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Doubt that's their only -- or even primary -- motive.
12. volcano (Posts: 341; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
they are claiming there is no profit from making a youtube app for windows phone yet they are saying it hurt content creaters for not been able to make money
what kind of logic is this
115. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
They are applying the rules, now building an actual app means they must uses their resources for something they do not consider needed for now. But that doesn't mean they must allow anyone to just go and violate the terms of service
17. natesvlogs (Posts: 40; Member since: 15 May 2012)
I couldn't agree more. Some of us depend on the revenue from those ads. it's like Microsoft is taking money right outta my pocket.
24. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
And Microsoft should definitely not be doing that. Google has every right to get that app taken down. But Google is not faultless here -- it's doing it's best to stop you from earning any ad revenue from WP8 users by not allowing them to have a functional app.
163. threefontstreet (Posts: 9; Member since: 06 Mar 2016)
This has to be one of the most ignorant comment son here. So you loose money when a person watches your video without ads as apposed to the person not being able to watch your video at all? Both cases you make no money! I'm not watching your videos so I guess I'm taking money out of your wallet?
26. shikroi (Posts: 187; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)
Are you sh**ting me? I just posted an epic reply and phonarenas dumb system went ahead and messed it up. smh You know how long it took?
28. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Lol I had a chance to read it shikroi, it was a very well thought out and clear comment. Don't know why it was taken down, sorry bud.
125. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
What can happen is if you save it, then edit it, if it doesn't fully load, it will show "Loading..." as the text. I started writing my comments in Word and saving them to SkyDrive before hitting the go button.
25. Omar-BHR95 (Posts: 184; Member since: 23 Dec 2012)
then why the hell google is not making any of their services available on the WP platform , and they have their services on iOS
39. lyndon420 (Posts: 3959; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Google is probably a little pissed that microsoft is taking in royalty cheques for supposed 'Android related patents', and ms is also getting away without having to disclose exactly what android patents are in play
43. volcano (Posts: 341; Member since: 25 Jan 2013)
this is bussiness all companies care about their money do think all companies pays like retarded noobs without any reason ? think again
53. hung2900 (Posts: 951; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
No matter how harmful the new WP's Youtube app cause to Youtube content partners and google, but it violates the rule, and should be shut down.
What will happen if Apple releases a similar app (also violate rules) and say that "Oh, why do you let it ok on WP and prohibit something the same on iOS?
116. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Not at all, Google is not loosing money, ads are still there, they keep reporting profits every quarter and Google services still cost money so that means Google is not loosing anything the companies like Samsung and HTC and the others are
152. jromy (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)
that is one of the most ignorant comments I've read and the worst thing is that you're probably really sure that is how things work : (
156. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Please explain, how MS charring android manufacturers for certain patents makes Google loose money, it could be used as a way to try and take manufacturers away from on Google but its not charging Google directly so far.
159. jromy (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)
Google isn't losing money, at least not enough to make it even noticeable for them, but the youtube partners (the ones that make the videos) are the ones being screwed over by MS. even if it is just a few bucks it is the only income for some of them.
160. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Eh? How does that reply works with my reply?
72. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Cause it's not selling nor doing well.
Google dislikes Ms, and Nokia wp8.
Great job Google.