As Motorola finishes its ICS updates, the OEM reveals its Android 4.1 schedule
0. phoneArena 19 Oct 2012, 19:47 posted on
Motorola now shows twelve of its devices that have already received, or will receive Android 4.1 in the months ahead; the manufacturer has just started updating the Motorola DROID BIONIC to Android 4.1 on Friday, completing all scheduled Android 4.0 updates to its handsets...
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1. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 5668; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
FCK u Motorola for not updating my Atrix 4G. and your GIFT CARD isn't enough to buy a new handset should be 200$ or at least 129$ This is the last time I'm buying your hand set and sick and tired of you guys putting your exclusive RAZR on Verizon only when it should be on every carrier
7. downphoenix (Posts: 2235; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
especially when verizon bullies them into loading the bloatware and non stock interface. There was that article where motorola says they want to go stock but Verizon wont let them. Moto fans will follow you where you go Moto, dont let yourself continue to be bullied by Verizon.
17. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
PA ASSUMED it was Verizon. i'm pretty sure it's all of the carriers considering we don't exactly have stock AHD's and Photon Q's around.
64. mas11 (Posts: 1017; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
It's Verizon, look how quickly Moto was able to update the wi-fi only Xoom vs. Verizon's Xoom.
12. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm telling you, there's something wrong with the Tegra 2. I know other devices with it have gotten updated, but it just seems like the only Moto handsets with a dual-core CPU and aren't getting updated are the ones with Tegra 2.
The Atrix and the Atrix 2 have very similar hardware, it's just the Atrix 2 has an OMAP chip instead of Tegra. They both have dual-core 1 GHz CPUs and 1 GB RAM, but the Atrix 2 with its OMAP got ICS.
2. metalpoet (unregistered)
As a disapointed former owner of the DROID 3, i went to that stupid website where i sign up to receive this dumb $100 gift card for a newer Moto device because I planned on getting the DROID RAZR M and never received word from motorola about them doing that for me. Then Bestbuy had the $100 promo for the samsung galaxy s3 and i took advantage of that. Maybe if Motorola pulled their heads out of their asses they wouldve realized the slippery slope that their on towards full on destruction.
*I had nothing but Motorola for smartphones and my GS3 is the first smartphone outside of the DROID 2, DROID X(3 of them in 6 months), and DROID 3 (4 of those in one year) that i owned. I have observed that Samsung has really picked up their game from their earlier attempts at an android device and i am glad they did. I am debating if i should exchange my GS3 for the note 2 when it comes out but ive already heard nightmarish stories about its battery life.
5. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Maybe I just don't understand Android software, but since the Bionic and Droid 3 use the same CPU and the same screen tech, why couldn't they update the D3 at the same time? Is 500 MB RAM just not enough to run ICS?
10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
If it wasn't built with it, 512 MB RAM just isn't going to run ICS smoothly. They probably tested the Droid 3 with ICS, found it was too unstable and decided that it would be better off with 2.3.
11. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Makes sense. It's unfortunate for D3 owners, but Verizon's policy is correct from a customer service perspective. If they're more likely to get complaints about choppy ICS than outdated Gingerbread, why would they take the risk? It's the same policy they've taken with other (HTC) phones.
13. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Exactly, I don't know why everyone is being so hard on Motorola for it when other manufacturers have done the same.
20. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Google. That's my only explanation. Once Google bought Moto, people expected instant results. But on Verizon, everyone is at the mercy of the carrier's update test schedule. The Rezound was built for ICS, and OTA leaks were appearing in March, but VZW didn't approve it until July. I can hardly blame HTC for Verizon's strict standards, especially since my phone is running MORE smoothly after that lengthy wait.
19. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's likely the case and besides the Droid 3 is still great with it's build of 2.3.4. it's still one of my most favorite handsets to date. if you're not satisfied though i hear good things about it running CM9.
29. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I'm going ahead and getting CM10 on my GS2 as soon as my case for it gets here. Nova Launcher could only serve me well for so long. Even though I'm probably going to get the LG Nexus soon after release, I can't really hold off for another month or so. And I might as well get SetCPU while I'm at it and drive the tiny stutters out of this Snapdragon. My case should be here by Tuesday, wish me luck.
33. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
One question though, one of my friends said it was just as easy as jailbreaking, is that true? I mean, all you have to do is put you device in a certain mode by pressing a combination of buttons then run a program while connected to your computer? I would imagine it would be a bit more difficult with rooting because it goes more in-depth than jailbreaking.
38. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
oh yeah, for a phone with an unlocked bootloader it'll be real easy. once you do it a few times you'll be flashing ROM's on the fly. it really just depends. some exploits are easier than others.
41. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Specially the Htc ones. They are a pain to unlock.
44. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, HTC's are a pain in the ass in general but every OEM causes some kind of pain during these processes.
43. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
So it's just download the files, then *click, click* boom, you're running CM10. Or at least, that's the gist of it? Sorry if I'm being a bit too interrogative, I'm going in blind here.
50. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
by now there should be a utility to root the SII for T-Mobile and when you find that and download it it'll just be a matter of making sure your phone drivers are all there and pressing enter and then after that you'll flash a custom recovery and i think you can do that straight from the ROM Manager app for that phone and then you just drag and drop your ROM's to the root of your SD Card and flash them from the recovery menu.
52. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Alright then, sounds simple enough. Now to wait until Tuesday. Or maybe tomorrow, I don't know why, but whenever I order something it always gets sent to me 2-3 days earlier than what was estimated, no matter where I order from. Sooner the better I guess.
66. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
A couple more questions, would flashing CM10 erase all my data? Contacts, messages, apps, etc. And; if I were to brick my phone, would I be able to recover it somehow, or does that term "brick" actually live up to its name?
67. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it would erase everything that's not on the SD Card.
there's a soft brick which can be fixed and then there's a hard brick which is the scary literal kind you're thinking about.
68. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Alright, I'm all up and rooted and will get SetCPU soon as well as CM10.
However, my brother wants me to root his Galaxy Blaze now and it's showing some difficulties. I'm using this;
I've followed it word for word, but as soon as I click run on Odin it says it failed. The firmware is right, it goes into download mode successfully, I selected the correct tar and pit, but it still fails. Any idea on how to fix this?
40. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Good luck Berzerk. S3 rooted and clocked at 1.9 tried franco kernel, its okay, along using voltage control and CM10 JB4.1. Loving the Rooted phone, also got rid of few bloatwares that take up around 100mb of Ram®©
47. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Oh yeah, I think that's going to be my favorite part, aside of getting rid of Touchwiz for good. Getting all my memory back from that pesky bloatware.
3. imkyle (Posts: 948; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
Droid Razr HD should be super quick with Jellybean.
21. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Jelly Bean on the Razr M is fantastic. i pull 5500's on Quadrant.
4. jroc74 (Posts: 4083; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
My soon to be arriving Maxx HD and my current RAZR will both have it...nice.
I think my Rezound is about to get sold.
9. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
If I had an upgrade available I'd be right there with you, trading my Rezound for a Razr HD. Oh well. Next summer there will be even more awesome phones to trade up to. :D
6. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Tempted to try and get an unlocked Atrix HD. The battery size makes me uncertain though.
23. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i've heard someone modded their AHD to use the BH40 3300mAh Battery from the MAXX and not alter the size of the phone. you just have to do some plastic scraping.
57. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)
Just looked it up. Not too sure about it especially without a video, he even goes on to say that if we need one to not bother at all. :[
I mean, I'm alright when it comes to software modding since back-ups make it virtually risk-free but hardware modding is not exactly my forte. Is the AHD's battery that bad?
58. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i don't know tbh. my Razr M gets me through the day just fine with the same processor and a slightly larger battery. o:
8. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I wouldn't be surprised if they drop the Bionic from that list. Motorola has been screwing their customers over lately, but hopefully everything will be sorted out soon. What they need to work on first is getting their Razr series outside of Verizon, that's the biggest problem now. After the acquisition by Google, support for devices should go up.
Now, they just need to give a huge sorry to their long-time consumers for lack of support and just hope they return. There's not much they can do for their older devices now, they just have to looks towards the future.
14. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
There are no Quad-Core phones with 2Gb Ram!
SONY & MOTO are behind. Would like the Droid 5®©
Where is KingKuroggi?
15. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Motorola doesn't really need quad core and 2 GB RAM; with their near stock UI, their devices run just as smooth as all of the quad cores out there and allow for more updates. I'm not sure what Sony's excuse is, however. Whenever manufacturers were releasing devices with Tegra 3 and Snapdragon S4, they were releasing phones with the S3. They always seem to be a generation behind.
Stay tuned next year, Sony releases a phone with quad core S4 Pro, and everyone else has moved on to the nearly twice as powerful OMAP 5, Exynos 5, and Tegra 4! :D
18. buccob (Posts: 1049; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Actually it does not matter if the UI is near stock... The Asus PadFone 2 is even closer to be running stock android and it is a S4 Pro + 2 Gb of RAM... That only makes it more future proof.
I had the international version of SGS3 and 1Gb of RAM was not enough... I was playing NOVA 3 and if I received a phone call, then the game started over without saving...
And yes, touchwiz is very heavy, but i wouldn't mind having the most current hardware even on a Nexus... that just makes it more attractive..
25. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
right here! ;D
i was just thinking about the Droid 5 earlier. that's my second most anticipated phone behind a Moto Nexus.
37. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I wonder if MotoRizon will bother. The QWERTY phone has faded away to not much more than the Photon Q (a redesigned Droid 4) and budget offerings like the coming Stratosphere 2. But yes, I too have a soft spot for the old-school DROID line.
39. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
i sure hope so. i think as long as the Droid line sells well it'll continue and i think the Droid 4 has sold well enough. i see it in the wild sometimes and i have a friend that owns one.
16. BattleBrat (Posts: 890; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
The people who really got screwed are the people who purchased Droid X 2s, my mom purchased one.... I was thinking of giving her my RAZR and just kicking it with the iPhone 4s until the Droid HD becomes cheap enough to straight up buy
24. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I don't understand why anyone would have bought the Droid X2. Sure, it was faster than the original, but the screen went from RGB to PenTile, the design was identical except MISSING the camera button, and it was 3G while LTE was rolling out. It was a weird time for Moto/Verizon with the Bionic delay, but the X2 was nothing more than a stopgap. They can claim it was planned, but I didn't buy it. I think they had Tegras and Pentile LCDs to burn off and thus the X2 was born.
26. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's what i think too. Moto got behind because of their trouble getting the Tegra II to play nice with their LTE radios and decided to slap everyone down real quick by offering Verizon their first dual-core device. it was a real trashy move.
27. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
And the Bionic was so quickly overshadowed by the Razr in marketing attention and prestige. The only guy I know who bought a Bionic after the Razr arrived did it because he already had accessories for his wife's Bionic and didn't like the non-removable battery. At least those of us in the know saw leaks about the Razr-Rezound-Nexus and knew to hold out.
30. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
my dad got the Bionic on launch day. all there was going around about the Razr were photos when the Bionic launched and i couldn't imagine such a thin phone having 4G LTE capability. i thought it was going to have a 720p display and Verizon was going to place it between the Bionic and the Droid 3 as a kind of mid range high-end device for the multimedia centric. boy was i wrong. there was no way anyone but dreamers could predict that Motorola was about to announce one of the greatest engineering feats in recent mobile history.
34. roldefol (Posts: 2855; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I believed the then-called Droid HD would have a 4.5" 720p screen too, but I also believed it would have LTE. Yes, it was thin, but it also had that big flat non-removable battery. Still, those blurrycam photos didn't do Its Thinness justice.
And yet, I found my chunky Rezound more comfortable to hold and navigate than the Razr. Different strokes...
49. BattleBrat (Posts: 890; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I darn near bought a bionic myself, boss didn't pay me some money owed in time so I ended up picking up an iPhone 4s, the battery in that thing didn't last 12 hours just idling so it was returned in a week ( although the 4s I'm playing with now has been giving me 2-3 days a charge, I gotta admit, apple fixed it) I then was going to wait for the Galaxy Nexus, but I heard that the Droid HD as it was then called was going to have a Kevlar back and be water resistant, I was thinking it was gonna be a mil spec phone or something and decided I didn't want another rubberized plastic brick that the other android phones had become, so I pre ordered a RAZR. When it arrived and I held it in my hand I knew I made the right choice, even my apple fan friends had to admit that it was sexier than the iPhone. And I was glad I stuck with moto
54. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
haha yeah, my original Razr was the envy of my iPhone owning friends. they haven't seem my M yet.
35. BattleBrat (Posts: 890; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I had given her a Droid X, but it developed a problem with the noise cancelling microphone, she went to the Verizon store and they let her upgrade to the Droid X 2 free (as was the deal at the time) that way she got to use the otter box from the Droid X I gave her with the X2 . She has had some trouble with the X2....
22. futureray (Posts: 4; Member since: 08 Aug 2012)
This would have been better, if they had not stated for almost year that the Atrix 4G would be getting ICS, and then two weeks before the last possible 3Q release date change their mind. And while $100 seems like a fair ideal, better than nothing, it actually has made me even more upset. Because you know they are inflating the pricing, and selling phones which don't usually make anyones top 5 picks. The Atrix 4G was ahead of its time, and still a very capable phone. NEVER AGAIN MOTOROLA. I will definitely be rethinking my next phone purchase.
31. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
that's right. AOKP JB and CM10 builds are out there for the Razr waiting to be flashed. JB is so close for the M & HD's that it's not worth it to take matters into your own hands.
36. Berzerk000 (Posts: 3661; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Yup. Come hither, ye deserted devices, and rejoice! For XDA has bestowed us 4.1 for all! :D
In all seriousness though, XDA is pretty cool.
48. jroc74 (Posts: 4083; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea...xda and root, ROM sections of Android forums.
42. MorePhonesThanNeeded (Posts: 616; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Don't hate Motorola, they do try very hard. Blame the issues on carriers, these guys like to test and make sure you can't circumvent the phones to do certain things they want you to pay for, like Hot Spot and the like. When I heard that VZW tests their phones extensively at first I was like oh yea, these really like to make sure the handset works...then when software updates started taking forever, then I noticed ok this is starting to sound like crap. Since when they gave the green light for the phone to go on sale, and obviously they would send the info back that what things should always work when an update rolls out to the OEM then why would VZW need to test the updates to see if they work? They shouldn't have to since upon leaving the OEM the updates should work by default.
Google needs to bring out their Nexus initiative soon, I hate having to use OEM UI and have zero option apart from voiding my warranty to use stock Android. Motorola got the OMAP phones to work fine and all are on ICS that can actually handle ICS without freezing up and causing problems. These guys should be applauded, they did their best considering carriers tend to slow things down, imagine a world where the carriers couldn't slow down the updates so much and updates worked pretty much spot on upon install...Motorola would more than likely be ahead of pretty much everyone else in terms of getting all their phones updated. Seeing as TI OMAP is pretty much gone and Motorola is in bed with Qualcomm, expect to see a quicker turn around now that Motorola has less devices in the pipe line. I think that the OG Droid is probably done. I can definitely see Google ending that product line as it isn't necessary anymore.
Razr line is pretty much the "it" thing for Motorola, it's design cues and styling definitely make the other phones seem outdated and redundant. Motorola needs to capitalize on the Razr style, introduce phones for different carriers that bear the Maxx battery and possibly get a line of sick IPS Super LCD screens to couple with Razr and call it the Razr's Edge line of Motorola phones on every carrier. Styling, battery and screen, come now it could happen especially with Google now in control of MM. A Motorola Nexus could kick it off, top of the line battery, top of the line screen, Motorola's well known tough body designs and slap a S4 Pro in there, keeping the screen 4.7" would work best. Come on I see great things out of Motorola, they just have so much history invested in the cellular industry to not always bang out something that makes everyone take notice that they aren't going anywhere.
45. antmiu2 (Posts: 167; Member since: 19 Jun 2011)
i doubt the razr/maxx and bionic will get JB .. dont fall for it AGAIN people
51. jroc74 (Posts: 4083; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The Droid X1 went from 2.1 to 2.3....I wouldn't discount anything yet.
46. g2a5b0e (Posts: 1941; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
I don't see anything about the Atrix 2. That's gotta be Jellybean worthy. right? Anyone have any info regarding it?
53. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5488; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
yeah, it should definitely get JB being that the Bionic is getting it.