As AT&T faces Judge today, CEO says no T-Mobile deal will lead to higher prices for everyone
0. phoneArena 09 Dec 2011, 13:49 posted on
AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson says that everyone will suffer if his company is blocked from completing its $39 billion proposed purchase of T-Mobile; in addition, AT&T goes back to U.S. District Court today as the Judge is expected to make sure both the carrier and the DOJ will be ready for the February 13th trial...
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1. iHateCrapple (Posts: 734; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)
"Meanwhile, AT&T's CEO Randall Stephenson says that blocking the deal will result in higher prices for everyone"
Lying sack of s***
2. squallz506 (banned) (Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
yeah, that sounded more like a threat to me. let our merger go through or well hike up our prices!!! even though we have been perfectly fine competing against T-Mobile, if we cannot acquire that pipeline we will need to overcharge our customers even more!!!
24. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
It definitely sounded like a threat!
So, resorting to scare tactics, eh, AT&T? Where's the rhetoric to lower the prices should the merger go through, AT&T?
The thing is, AT&T would probably hike the prices regardless.
33. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
I expect nothing less coming from these douchebags.
14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
This is the part of the playbook where you lie as frequently as possible in hopes that the lie gets confused for the truth.
19. captn3x (Posts: 45; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)
he means because now executives from both company's will get billion dollar bonus instead of just AT&T's. Overpaid CEOs create jobs remember. Dah.
49. hepresearch (unregistered)
Well of course they do... they create some jobs, and enormous tax-free bank accounts in the Grand Cayman Islands.
3. rsiders (Posts: 862; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
No, ATT prices will go up. T-Mobile will still be the same affordable, good plan carrier. They don't separate text, mobile, and data like ATT does. They need to chill out.
5. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
So wait.. by absorbing the nations cheapest national carrier, we are SAVING the consumers from higher prices??
What IDIOT would buy that line? The only reason your prices are as low as they are now is because Sprint and Tmobile have been pushing prices lower and lower and ATT/VZW have had to respond because they started to lose a few customers.
If you take away that negative pressure on prices, they are going to rise anyways. At least right now we have a choice of another carrier with GSM if thats our phone preference. A choice that happens to be HALF as much and TWICE as fast. :)
7. christony1120 (Posts: 65; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
Dude prices aren't the only thing that matter. You know there's such thing as speed which ATT/VZW has that T-M/S doesn't have. And almost none of Verizon costumers left look at a survey and learn your facts before you try to "diss" them
16. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Facts are not important to remix when he's making a point. He's one of the most misinformed while at the same time has strong opinions lol. Don't tell him T-mobile isn't fast by the way. Watch the rant he goes on where he will claim T-Mobile is basically just as fast as LTE.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hey taco...err.. antifanboy, thanks for calling yourself out. See you under the next user name.
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
You wanna speed test? Last national speed test I saw, showed VZW ever so barely beating out Tmobile in speed. ATT was in a tie with sprint for LAST place. And that speed test was done BEFORE Tmobile went from 21mb/s to 42mb/s.
My claims are backed up by facts and experience. Please provide your credentials.
26. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
Source? Every speed test I saw has VZW far ahead. Also AT&T has HSPA + so they're much much faster than Sprint. AT&T has now rolled out LTE so that leaves T-Mobile in a distant 3rd place.
28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
source? taco, the last speed test that was done by PCMag that this site linked to.
ATT was using HSPA, not HSPA+. It only maxed at 12mb/s, which is the same max as Sprint's Wimax. In real world, ATT's network was only slightly faster because sprint's "3g" was low enough to bring down its average enough to stay low. Tmobile's speeds were more than double ATT and Sprints and just a hair behind VZWs... and YET AGAIN, this was BEFORE Tmobile boosted their network to its current 42mb/s. I've done the tests, the network is even faster.
VZW has optimized their network better so it can hit 30's more often, which makes it faster than Tmobile. But if you want to pay DOUBLE the price every month for LTE when your talking a 20% speed difference at best... that your phone cant even take advantage of.. then go ahead.
Oh wait, i forgot, your Taco50, you dont have a phone that can take advantage of HSPA+ or LTE, so why do u even care?
30. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
I read that pc mag article and Verizon was first by a landslide. Why are you so upset? Look we know T-Mobile is cheap, even though half the price is not true, but they're not that fast. LTE is much much faster. On Verizon you pay a little more, not double, but you get much faster and wider coverage. Don't throw a hissy fit over this lol.
55. vmaster (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
antifanboy.....And "they're not that fast" just because you said so??? Dude nobody cares about opinions, when you express criticism, provide facts. I'll provide you a fact, I run speed tests constantly, I get on average 17mb down, 1.7up. Highs of about 20mb. You must be out of your mind to say that's slow. And quit basing your opinions on assumptions, cuz that's what it appears that you're doing.
38. omarc26 (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Well t-mobile coverage is a joke when compared to Verizon I rather spend my money on Verizon even if its more expensive cuz I care more about coverage than data speed. But I have at&t which also has more coverage than t-mobile I know cuz my friends have t-mobile and when we take road trips I ALWAYS have better coverage than them its annoying that they have to borrow my at&t phone to make calls. And I could care less about data speeds on at&t as long as I have a signal to make calls which i always do in more places than my friends on t-mobile I'm good
39. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Omar, dont you work for ATT?
And honestly, ATT is the LAST company I would ever give myself. They DONT have a bigger network than tmobile, and they ARE NOT faster. lol You just pay more for the joy of... paying more, i guess.
Money no object, it would be VZW if its an LTE market, Tmobile otherwise, then sprint... then... cricket... then metro.. then ATT.
At least with VZW your getting what your paying for and with Tmobile you get a lot MORE than what your paying for compared to the other guys (HSPA+ 42mb/s and no overage charges for 60 bux a month? beat that)
41. omarc26 (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
No i dont work in at&t i would never work there i have a better job dont u work at t-mobile?????? And like i said i dont care about speed i dont care if t-mobiles is hspa+42 mbps. Because i like having reception inside buildings something t-mobiles 1700 mhz band dont offer and at&ts 850 mhz does now that i think about it thats why there the only ones that offer uma because reception aint good inside buildings. With at&t and verizon u dont need uma because they actually work in all those buildings t-mobile craps out i seen it with my own eyes highrise buildings, elevators , underground parking lots my friends t-mobile galaxy s2 craps out while i have at least 2 bars on my at&t Lg nitro and shes screwed cuz those places dont have wifi lol so sucks for her . Just like u , u said at&t is the last company u would go too thats your decision,i have mines me its t-mobile the last company i would go to. Seems all u care is about SPEED i dont im the opposite i care about coverage which in my area at&t is just as good as verizon .Over here in los angeles t-mobile is not that good same with sprint it sucks. And yes money is not an issue with me i would of have verizon but so far none of there LTE phones are gsm capable and i need gsm for when i visit family in spain i just LOVE paying them high roaming charges . If they ever release a LTE/gsm phone then its gonna be a different story with me i might switch to them. And BESIDES im on grandfathered data plan on at&t so i have unlimited data.
46. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea, i do work for Tmo, and I used to work for VZW. There is a reason I've worked for them and not ATT. I have a conscience.
BTW, I havent lost signal with Tmo in a very long time. I even have full 4g HSPA+ in the middle of a very big hospital that I was doing my clinicals at, so your blanket story about how Tmobile never has service doesnt hold water. No carrier is perfect and its all about where you live. If more than one carrier fits your needs, then your an utter fool to go with the one that is double the price.
52. omarc26 (Posts: 360; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
You said so yourself it all depends on were you live. And i am not an utter fool because its MY money and i spend it on whatever i want ok comprende? And at&t works best in MY area. I ALSO had full hspa+ service on at&t in the hospital when i went to go visit my mom who got operated. I was chatting away in the waiting room and elevator. If t-mobile worked in my area im not going to lie i would of gone with them because of the cheaper plans but since they dont i went with at&t.
44. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"AT&T has now rolled out LTE ..."
Yeah, right. AT&T's LTE footprint is rounding error to VZW's LTE footprint. And the iDevices don't have LTE radios, so it is effectively a non-item.
34. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Nice to see the AT&T employees (trolls) are out on the boards today.
54. vmaster (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
If I understand you correctly, you said ATT/VZW has speed and Tmobile doesn't. I don't know where you get your facts from, but I run on average 17mb down 1.7mb up on tmobile HSPA+ network. Max I've tested was 20.1mb.
56. vmaster (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
Sorry I forgot to state that above message is in response to christony1120.
And as far as coverage goes (addressing to everyone now), I have coverage practically everywhere I go. And guess what people, yes verizon has a higher coverage, but I don't wan't to pay 40% more monthly just to fund the towers for people in the boonies. I want to pay for service where I am mainly at, and T-mobile does one hell of a good job at that. And if I ever go once a year where I have "0" coverage and a verizon fan brags about "1" bar, I will brag my butt off how much I save compared to him and have coverage on the rest of the 364 out of 365 days a year.
42. JGuinan007 (Posts: 680; Member since: 19 May 2011)
So AT&T doesn't get T-moblie merger T-mobile has no plan to upgrade to LTE no one else is able to buy them Sprint can't afford it Verision wouldn't be allowed to buy them so then what as other companies upgrade to LTE T-mobile slowly dies away?
8. LewsTherin006 (Posts: 140; Member since: 18 Nov 2011)
ATT must live in a backwards world. To them up is down and down is up.
9. Giggity (Posts: 147; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Does anyone want to kick Stephenson in the nuts after reading this article?
10. Joker (Posts: 24; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Isn't easier to rob people at gunpoint rather than trying to scam people like this?
15. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Yeah, but robbing people at gunpoint is a felony. Threatening to raise prices is just bidness.
50. hepresearch (unregistered)
Metaphorically "robbing people at gunpoint" is the job of the IRS... everyone else is relegated to scams...
11. droiddomination (Posts: 203; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
they are all greedy sob's. don't think that one carrier is better than the other. they all play golf together. conspire pricing strategies together. cheat together. just like the airline industry f ing you on prices, they utilize the same old business models and concepts of deceit! believe that! if att raises prices, i will jump ship, i am at my last rope with these jokers!
12. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
if the merger goes through that will result in higher prices!! and us tmo cus will have to put up with the $hitty cust service att offers :(
20. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
On the bright side you'll be able to get an iPhone
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
nobody wants to hang with you taco.. even on the same carrier.
29. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
eewww never that!! im glad tmo doesnt have the iphone ..
is that taco now???
40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yea,its his new account. tomorrow he will have another one probably.. lol
45. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Best thing to do is keep reporting him. Kind of like all of the spam posts of the past. aka Whack-a-taco.... Each time he pops up, report him. At some point, he gets tired of the game and moves on.
17. jdrevolution (Posts: 87; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
So,if the merger doesn't go through, they'll have $39 Billion not doing anything, and yet they're going to charge their customers more?
18. antifanboy (banned) (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)
I don't think this merger is good for the consumer. This will basically leave two providers. VZW and AT&T. Sprint may get swallowed.
51. hepresearch (unregistered)
21. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Government should just say "fine." You both can merge together, HOWEVER, no jobs are to be lost for the next 5 years, AND all prices must be the same or less. If that stipulation is added to the deal, then give them the GREEN LIGHT.
In the end, T-Mo's parent wants out, so who is going to buy, because we live in AMERICA, last time I checked.
31. GALAXY-S (Posts: 701; Member since: 07 Jun 2011)
once att buys out t-mo they will be able to do what ever they want, just like they do now with there customers.. theres no way anybody can promise jobs will not be lost or that prices will not go up.
36. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
America or not, we as consumers need protection.
CenturyLink wants in the wireless game, DK can sell it to them.
The last thing anyone needs is a GSM monopoly in the United States, especially with AT&T at the helm.
The issue nobody is talking about here is what happens to International Roaming Rates for customers coming to the United States.
Where I'm at, we have tons of folks from India here, dropping wads of cash, all roaming on Tmobile.
It's just one of the small, hidden casualties. But a casualty nonetheless.
27. snowgator (Posts: 3558; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
This is comical. No, prices won't raise if you are forced to move on from buying T-Mo. No, AT&T will not wither and die on the vine - conversion to LTE will help, as will all kinds of future advances that will come as carriers respond to the needs of their business. That is what happens: Needs drive Inovation. AT&T wants that spectrum and the customer base. The only questions now are the same as before: Will it hurt competition, can T-Mo be bought and run by a better bidder, and if not can another carrier rise up to challenge the big three as a national #4 if this purchase goes through?
32. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
No matter how much bulls**t att pulls i find it funny that people continue to pay for their crappy service. Blame it on the contract? That's crap! U shouldn't even get att if you cant afford to break the contract. Also I love how Verizon is doing nothing and buying all the other spectrum, these 2 greedy companies are up to no bueno.
47. clevername (Posts: 1436; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)
Because they're not bad to everyone. Thanks to att.I already have coverage everywhere I go, I got my galaxy s 2 nearly free, customer service has always been great to me, I don't pay that much, and get between 9-15 mb/s download speeds, and yes I live in a populated area(socal). But I understand this is just me. Not everyone gets great service. Like in my area sprint sucks, tmo can't find a tower, and verizon is slower than molasses.
My point is att is bad for some.but not all, that's why.people stay with them...and contracts. :-)
53. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I have a VERIZON 4G LTE phone and, yes, when on 3G or even EV-DO 1X , it is piss poor.
37. MiltoChezChelio (Posts: 2; Member since: 27 Nov 2011)
this is some bull**** , letus have our way or higher prices f**k you ATT and your shady people, it's not T-mobiles fault
43. TerryCrowley (Posts: 194; Member since: 31 Jul 2011)
I'm a little late to the comments but the CEO of AT&T totally looks like Stu from the Hang Over.
48. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
I GIVE U AT&T's CEO Randall Stephenson s. BIG FCK U. don't you dare RAISE PRICES ON OUR PHONES. I'M WAITING FOR THE GALAXY NEXUS TO LAND ON AT&T
57. vmaster (Posts: 31; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)
ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? And who's problem is that, that AT&T can't handle their own pipeline! After raping people on their bills and throttling speed more than any other carriers, those stingy dictators should spend all that money they make on building up their networks instead of writing crazy bonuses checks to themselves. Fix your damn network to handle the amount of people you have, or don't add more people until the problem is fixed. And fix it not by swallowing your competitors, but by using the company money wisely to build a stronger network.
58. hepresearch (unregistered)
Even though we will all suffer if this ever happens, I will still be laughing my head off when the mobile service industry flies their top execs to Washington D.C., on private jets, to beg the Fed for a bailout of the wireless industry... I will laugh even harder when they write even bigger bonus checks for themselves and their cronies upon receiving the federal (tax-payer provided... at gunpoint!) funds. If I did not find a way to laugh about the idiocy, I would probably go insane...