Are you getting the Nokia Lumia 1020?
0. phoneArena 11 Jul 2013, 12:13 posted on
Now that we have all PureView photographic goods combined in the Lumia 1020, and sprinkled with a second generation image stabilization suspension for the huge sensor, as well as pixel oversampling during video recording, not to mention all the manual controls in the Pro Camera app, we wanted to ask you whether you'd be considering the 1020 for your smartphone collection if that's the Nokia you've been waiting for...
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1. VictorP (Posts: 24; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Phone looks good and what not, but I don't see it being worth $300 on contract.
16. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
but here you have engineering marvels inside the lumia 1020 body
41mp is not a joke.
it has OIS as 920 has
also stereo recording.
they slapped all that in one phone. it has a ZEISS lens too (6 lenses.first for a phone in the world)
i say it costs more than that. and you say 300 is expensive?
90. milesboy5 (Posts: 173; Member since: 07 Nov 2012)
Didn't the Lumia 925 have 6 lenses? Therefore making the Lumia 1020 the 2nd 6 lense cameraphone of the world...just thinking out loud here
97. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
Second phone to have 6 lenses, actually.
112. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
yep. both of you are right. forgot about lumia 925. teehee
28. konnor (Posts: 30; Member since: 25 Apr 2013)
Plus, I'd never get it without Android. I want to give Nokia my money, but they refuse to put Android on their phones. So sorry, Nokia. Your loss. I'm not touching that crappy WP8.
35. buccob (Posts: 1854; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Would you get it Mxyzptlk? just because it is stable does not mean its functional enough for some people...
I know you would sell your kidney for apple, but be reasonable...
56. ianbbaa (Posts: 293; Member since: 20 Mar 2013)
I got it as well...but one day, you ll get bored of rooting, fixing lags, tryng tons of ROMs, KERNELs to make you phone "customized" - customized i understand making android better. I dont want it anymore...
Tablet yes, for some time will stay with Note8, anyway using remote desktop to winserver for all my needs...
Phone - i want a stable, closed thing that makes calls and tahts it. Make nice pictures is a good reason to switch from android with this Lumia device!
115. buccob (Posts: 1854; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
That is one approach on the phone / tablet needs... but I for one like to have a phone that can do everything I need instead of getting also a tablet... so I will wait for the Honami myself... as for now I have what its considered a midranger device but suits me better than any of those "high end" WP8 devices...
My phone is quite stable, and I don't root, fix lag, try ROMs, etc... all the customization I need comes out of the box and out of the play store...
108. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
Selling kidneys for a phone really makes me laugh!
93. dangchitrung (Posts: 65; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
... only when put on the table or any other surface.
44. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Konnor, please stick your malware and spyware infested Android toy. Oh, and too bad your open source paradise happens to have a master key that potentially allows for any Android device to be hacked ;o)
55. whoyton2 (banned) (Posts: 142; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Hahaha I would rather open source than closed and boring OS.....Stupid stupid Nokians!
58. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)
U know what??
I can turn off auto rotate :D
100. SleepingOz (unregistered)
101. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)
I dont need 5-6 mb of photos
Because i just want to post photos on facebook rather than telling everyone "check the quality and clearity"
113. akki20892 (Posts: 3746; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
have you watch keynote of lumia 1020, watch whole then tell. lumia 1020 take huge mp photos and oversample it and make it 5mp or 7mp photo so u can post that photo with same clearity that u taken by huge mp.
80. akki20892 (Posts: 3746; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
First u going to get great camera it will expensive, and second this phone have 41mp camera it's a huge thing to get and great features so worth to get in $300
82. -box- (Posts: 3951; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
87. papss (unregistered)
109. designerfx (Posts: 76; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)
putting a significantly good camera on a cellphone is simply putting lipstick on a pig. it's still a pig.
the phone has *nothing* compelling whatsoever outside of the camera.
Image stabilization on a cellphone is pretty terrible in how it works in general, windows phones are pretty terrible in how behind they are in general, and who would want to support MS when they openly support NSA spying and have only taken over nokia with the intent to either acquire them or tear them down? (the latter being what's happening since Elop being the CEO plant).
2. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Make one running Android or not that many people will buy it.
52. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Also need to release it in the U.S. on more than just AT&T. Such opportunity wasted.
3. JMartin22 (Posts: 1522; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
The only reason to purchase this phone is for the camera. In that case, I can purchase a DSLR and just take even better pictures with it, for around the same price. Other than that, it really is just a regurgitated Lumia 900 series. They didn't go above and beyond making their phone top notch in any other hardware aspect other than the camera. Which is not good enough. There are plenty of competing smartphones with camera modules that handle themselves well enough, while doing pretty much everything else better. The asking price for this is kind of outrageous.
46. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Tell me, what DSLR body do you plan to get for this price? Nikon D3100? Canon Rebel T2? My Nikkor 18-200 mm DX travel lens alone costs more than the price of this phone. Also, you do realize that a DSLR won't fit into your jeans pocket, right? Even the cheapest prosumer body weighs 10x more than the Lumia 1020, and you don't get dual recording microphones, or stereo speakers for that matter...
There is no better mobile smartphone multimedia recording and playback device on the market. This is as good as it gets, and it does cost money. Is it going to be worth it for you? I don't know - but for others, yes.
60. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Sales will tell :D
Let note 3 arrive
71. JMartin22 (Posts: 1522; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
Most people don't look for these perks, only audio and technophiles. Even a camera as is still be better than this, forget the detachables. My point is, if the only selling point and for that matter, pro, is the camera, then they need to step up their game. For a company trying to push themselves as a "challenger" to the market, they are sure pretty lackadaisical when it comes to the rest of their product.
81. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
JMartin22, I have no clue what you're talking about: what remarkable feat does your Android based device do that can't be done on a WP8 machine? The only advantage that I can see are more exotic apps, but many of those are often pitiful quality, and some really are infested with malware and/or spyware. Also, 1080P just arrived, and the vast majority of people using Android based devices do do not have a new smartphone with that feature in their possession yet...
I sense some strong resentment and fear against Nokia, as well as the profound misconception that Microsoft some how sold out privacy to the government whilst Google did not. However, here's some food for thought: why is it that you think that master key for Android exists at all? IMO, the so called champions of privacy and freedom most likely left a fxxking backdoor in their code, so that government can keep tabs on people's digital communications.
Anyway, Nokia has a wide array of devices available with a multitude of features and prices that are designed to suit everybody. If you don't want to pay for the Lumia 1020 with the bazooka cam and quality stereo speakers, then buy the 920/925/928, 820, 720, 620, or 520 if you want dirt cheap. The 520 still runs great, which is more than I can say for low end Android competitors.
I don't see a problem with marketing a niche smartphone that cators to those who are interested primarily in the camera. Also, this certainly isn't Nokia's next flagship: it's merely a stepping stone that was built to serve a specific purpose until Microsoft releases an upgrade patch for WP8. That will come out later this year, and then we will see just how far ahead Android really is at the end of the day. However, I am absolutely confident that Nokia and Microsoft can compete with the very best products that Apple and Google based OEMs can produce.
73. FlushGordon (unregistered)
''There is no better mobile smartphone multimedia recording and playback device on the market. This is as good as it gets''
Ohhh puhhhleeeeezzzzz, to Nokia be the glory....you held one yourself????? Can't you just wait for the reviews first?
FYI, that thing will def cost more than $700 unlocked overseas
95. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Yes Flush, the Lumia 1020 is very costly, which is why I am selling you into slavery in order to afford this device...
60.00 US dollars? Do I hear 50.00? 40.00? 30.00? 20.00?
61. bgdkid (Posts: 13; Member since: 30 Aug 2012)
the sony RX100 MII will eat this thing alive...
98. JojoGo101 (Posts: 211; Member since: 17 Dec 2012)
What's that? Did you hear the Xperia Z? 'Exmor' or whatever the sensor is called was never the best and never will be.
4. freebee269 (Posts: 529; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)
i'm going to get it. will sell my gs4 to pay for it. (this is not a knock on samsung or android)
47. whoyton2 (banned) (Posts: 142; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Mate that is the biggest regret you will ever have in your mobile history
75. papss (unregistered)
I disagree... Keep up the pull string comments
76. papss (unregistered)
Agree I'm returning my N4 and using the money on this. I will get far more use from this phone than my N4.
85. whysoserious (Posts: 317; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
As a gadget enthusiast, I will also do the same and jump from Samsung to this one. I'm no Sammy hater, nor a fanboy, my GS3 have served me well these past twelve months, I love it from inside out but I think it's time to move on and try out other great technologies out there. The camera is a huge sell for me because I love taking great pictures. I'd still stick w/ android anyway, Lumia 1020 as my main phone, GNex 7 2nd gen for my on-the-go tablet and my ipad mini... well... goes to charity or ebay, I guess.
5. Sankyaku (Posts: 6; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)
As a 920 owner I dont feel compelled to buy this. I am just very disappointed what Nokia is bringing to market. The 1020 has a amazing camera but what about the other features of the phone? Mediocre at best.
I have my eye on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra, that will be my next phone.
7. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)
Me too :(
36. buccob (Posts: 1854; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
I would wait for the Honami before going Z Ultra... not even a led flash was really a bad decision... Anyway everything else seems good
45. Aviiiiis (Posts: 8; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
But for me the awaited is one and only GALAXY NOTE 3
103. jackhammeR (Posts: 1548; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
in your eyes only because it runs android
8. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)
Im getting something else, around this time next year. Looking forward to many more excellent devices.
9. MachidoDen (banned) (Posts: 202; Member since: 30 May 2013)
The camera is good
Listen to This nokia please
At the time of advertisement
What will u tell customers??
Again main focus on camera?
The people who are commenting here
Only those people are in real tech world
But how will u insist those people , with the same old hardware and software which are outside phonearena??
Samsung when make advertisements they show use of their GIMMICK features(may be not for use)
But a vast of population is attracted
10. _Bone_ (Posts: 2147; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
Here's the thing: I LOVE the PureView tech, but I want a flagship device for a flagship price and 720p dual-core S4, Adreno 225 is mid-range with a good camera thrown over it, and the $700 price tag or $300 on 2-year contract is a total joke. You get a $300 Nexus 4 which is better and a $200 zoom camera with is more versatile for photography and a soon-FHD Nexus 7 for one 1020 price, a pity really for the price tag and small battery.
So the wait goes on to see what the Honami, the Note III with OIS, the new Motorolas with Nikon lens. the G2 with 16MP sensor have to offer, then decide based on the combination of HW/SW/OS/battery/Size/Camera/price. Right now, the 1020 has last year written all over it with next year price.
77. papss (unregistered)
You mean the note 3 with last years tech with ois?
11. Yubnub (Posts: 100; Member since: 23 May 2013)
I'll wait for the Sony i1 Honami before I make a decision on a cameraphone
12. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
It should have read instead..."I'd have gotten it in a heartbeat if it ran Android, because I will not switch to Windows!"
Great hardware though. And this is why many of us keep saing Nokia would Compete very well in the Android market. SIap a 5.5 inch screen, a stylus,1080p LCD 3 display, and micro SD slot on it and nothing could touch it! But it has Windows, so I guess we'll just keep waiting for Nokia to wake up.
13. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
How about an option saying maybe if it wasn't completely overpriced. Who is Nokia kidding, 300 dollars on contract is something you charge for an ultra high end device, not a decent phone with a really good camera. The only reason to buy this phone is the camera. WP already has a small fan base, and the price for this phone won't help expand that, for 200 dollars on contract maybe it would sell well, but the only people I see buying this phone are people who desperately need a phone and camera in one, along with liking WP. Nokia shot themselves in the foot with the price.
15. kozza3 (Posts: 592; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
don't worry, it will go on sale for $.99 a month after release.
83. -box- (Posts: 3951; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Think of it this way: the gs4 is like $700-750 off context, the iphone5 32gb is $749, note2 is in the $750-800 range. Hence, it isn't overpriced (off contract). What should scare the bejeebers out of you and every other contract-signing subsidized-phone purchasers is that $300 may be the new norm for flagships.
Seriously. Upgrade frequency is 24 months on AT&T and Verizon now.
Both have raised their rates over the last year.
Early termination fees keep creeping higher and higher, as do upgrade fees and stuff.
Fewer goodies are included with new phones (earphones, car chargers, cases, batteries).
Are we looking at a major move towards lower phone sales overall all for higher carrier profit margins?
14. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
No, I'm getting something else. Nokia did a good job with the Lumia 1020 but some games and apps are still missing in the WP Store, it's tough to make decision over Nokia.
So Nokia Lumia? Maybe next time.
I guess I will have to wait for the LG G2 or some other excellent devices that are coming soon.
17. Jehovah (Posts: 69; Member since: 25 Jun 2013)
Will have one the second it reach the brazilian market. I can only hope Nokia doesn´t keep me waiting for five months.