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Apps on iPhone 5s are crashing twice more often than on previous models

0. phoneArena 11 Oct 2013, 08:52 posted on

We’ve praised the Apple iPhone 5s for its meaningful innovation with Touch ID and for its great hardware put in that same aluminum box, but we also have to admit that iOS 7 on it comes with a surprising amount of bugs and issues…

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posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:00 38

1. james004 (Posts: 478; Member since: 15 May 2013)


That 64 bit is doing something not so revolutionary. Lol

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:11

7. Tommy1960i (Posts: 100; Member since: 11 Oct 2013)


I think they should have said that to developers earlier so they can have time to prepare and update their apps.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:15 5

10. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


From what I've read, they did. A lot of developers didn't take it seriously because iOS1 through iOS6 didn't have changes as radical as iOS7 does. Complacency is coming back to bite them.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 11:09 3

54. McLTE (Posts: 711; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


LOL.. nice try there Googler - trying to pin the issues on the independent devs.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 12:41 3

60. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


So you're saying devs never have to update apps when OS' get updated? I'm not saying the iOS issues are dev related, but some app issues are.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 13:50 1

63. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)


I wouldn't say they never update, but some apps work just fine without updating from one version of iOS to the next. I still have one or two apps from pre-Retina Display days that worked just fine on iOS 6, but fail to open on iOS 7. Developers have to be sure to update their apps.

And I'm no developer, but I don't know how much of the unseen architecture has changed between iOS 6 and 7. I imagine it could have been a major overhaul even though it make look moderately different. I don't know that, but I think we have to remember some changes go unseen.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 16:55

67. RomeoJDR (Posts: 237; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)


When the OS is updated developers should not have to update apps for them to continue to run on the platform. The only update that should be required is for the app to take advantage of new features.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:43

69. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Normally that's true. This time though, iOS7 was a huge change compared to previous iterations, and so was the hardware.

posted on 12 Oct 2013, 08:23 1

77. seret6 (Posts: 41; Member since: 14 Aug 2013)


who gives a f about ios and fackapple products?

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:17 15

11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


I was thinking that one of the biggest iOS 7 changes was multitasking, but guess what? iOS 7 doesn't do true multitasking!

Watch this video from 11:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhmEGduKup4

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:34 11

20. shuaibhere (Posts: 1606; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Saw the video already...i was about to comment the same thing...
btw Armando Ferreira·is really nice guy..

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:48 8

24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Agree! Also some Apple fans says that Armando is a biased Android fanboy, but I don't care even if he is a biased Android fanboy while he shows TRUE FACTS in his videos. :)

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:15 4

33. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I've been subscribing him since last year. He's great!

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:33 2

46. xfire99 (Posts: 544; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)


No, iOS 7 doesnt have true multitasking and I doubt it will ever be in iOS. Its just iOS 7 have more APIs opens up and learn what apps should update more often.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:42

48. illusionmist (Posts: 124; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)


Well, nobody ever said iOS 7 is gonna do "true" multitasking. iOS has always allowed select tasks that apps can continue to do in the background, iOS 7 just offers even more of those, and optimizes the behavior a bit.

Those two examples in the video don't really mean a lot though, for the first is just how iOS chooses to handle the situation, and the second is doable in iOS 7, it just requires app-side update (for example, Flickr has been update to support this now).

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 11:10 1

55. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


If it is not true multitasking, then it is not multitasking at all! At least such is my opinion.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 12:35

58. illusionmist (Posts: 124; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)


Technically speaking, it DOES let you do multiple tasks at once. Just controlled, not as free as the "true" ones. Works for me (and apparently lots of other people) anyway.

posted on 12 Oct 2013, 06:36

75. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"Technically speaking, it DOES let you do multiple tasks at once."

Technically speaking, iOS 7 allows to start multiple processes at once, but it is NOT MULTITASKING since these processes can't work at the same time.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:21 7

15. chunky1x (Posts: 254; Member since: 28 Mar 2010)


64 bit is more like a gimmick. It will take at least 2-3 years to make apps support this format. Technically it the iPhone 6s or something that would benefit from it. Hell! Even PCs are still using 32 bit today.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:23 7

17. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6600; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


and its showing its FRAGMENTATION too lol

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:22 2

36. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5879; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


64-bit needs more memory to work. In other news, Apple announces the iPhone 5S Mod I, with 4 Gb of RAM.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 11:11 2

56. rms.max (Posts: 79; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)


"New is easy Right is hard " .

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:03 2

2. bucky (Posts: 1516; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


This is expected for the first few weeks.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:03 25

4. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Excuses... excuses...

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:19

12. darkkjedii (Posts: 12024; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That's true Bucky, the only app that crashes for me is Facebook, and it's never been a smooth running app. Other than that smooth sailing bro, simply loving iOS 7 +1

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:19 4

35. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Facebook has always crashed since day one, so that doesn't count. Oddly, Safari, Gmail, GMaps, Twitter and Instagram have been freezing/crashing a lot, and it happens from iPhone 4 - iPhone 5S.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:32

45. darkkjedii (Posts: 12024; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Lol u know that about Facebook too huh? Ok you're right can't use that.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:38 8

22. boosook (Posts: 1047; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


I had no crashes when I upgraded from android 2 to 4.0.4, then to 4.1, then 4.2, then 4.3... no crashes at all. Seeing an app crash on Android is rare.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:02 3

30. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Also statistics said that iOS apps tend to crash three times more than Android apps even before iOS 7.

Statistics made by analytics company: www.crittercism.com

Here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomiogeron/2012/02/02/does-ios-crash-more-than-android-a-data-dive/

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:11 5

32. Finalflash (Posts: 1821; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


iOS apps crash a lot more than people think, they just don't when it does because there is no warning like in android, it just goes back to the screen and kills the app. Overall iOS users are going to lose more of their stability as its becomes more complex and tries to emulate more droid or WP functionality.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:03 12

3. andro. (Posts: 1962; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Its apples os ui remained stale for years perhaps for a reason, apple knew they would the problems if they changed it. Now that they have its a copy of android but a buggy mess of a copy. The reaction ive seen from most custoners ins store to ios7 is not good

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:04

5. Jobayer (Posts: 139; Member since: 22 Feb 2013)


#Forapple

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:29

41. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5879; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


#Forperfidiouslash-up

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:08 5

6. DONUT (Posts: 307; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)


lol..

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:12 1

8. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)


Evertime I play certain songs form my iPhone 5s my iTunes crashes. Its a bit annoying. I probably have to re-sync for it to resolve. Other then that I havent had any issues.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:22

37. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)


I'd be suffering if that ever happened to me. I listen to music at least three hours a day. How do you do it?

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:56

50. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


dude stop exaggerating... suffering?! really? besides he says "certain" songs.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 15:55 3

65. Pancholo (Posts: 377; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Sometimes, a device is all an individual has (or, in this case, music). They could get identified with it as it could offer you so many options that eases you through a day. Even more, it's 100% personal, so that adds to how you empathize with it. Please, don't judge other people for what they love. You have your own crap; everybody else does, too.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:48

70. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


+1 My job is extremely stressful, streaming music while driving home is a huge relief.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:13 15

9. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


I will post on apple fans most used response for them. "I haven't seen any bugs or errors since updating to ios7. Everything has been smooth as ever because it's apple and everything always works :)"

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:21

14. nestea (unregistered)


same goes for Android or WP fans….

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:24 9

38. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Uh no. Android users, as well as WP are willing to step up and admit the bugs in the OS. Using the report a bug option to the developer and Google or Microsoft does a lot more than you think.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 18:49 1

72. taikucing (unregistered)


lol, android is becoming more stable & faster.
Next time try trolling harder

BTW, the bugs in android & WP are not severe like iOS 7.
Look at the pictures of iOS 7 bugs above. The bugs are severe.

You buy a super expensive phone that has many bugs?
My $100 android phone runs smooth & crash free.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 11:03

52. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


you guys act like this happens on 100% of apple devices running ios 7... that's just not true...

its a small percent of people who are effected with those bugs.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 17:09 2

68. phatcow (Posts: 17; Member since: 13 Jun 2013)


Sorry I act like this happens to me.. because it does...

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 18:50

73. darkkjedii (Posts: 12024; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Not for me it hasn't, but then again as a techie I expect imperfection. Unless it's pizza, then it's gotta be perfect.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:20 12

13. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)


we still remember PA gave this expensive bugs phones 9,3 in the review.
ipon 5s full of bugs and crash often, and we like it, so we give it 9,3

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:22

16. nestea (unregistered)


emmm they reviewed PHONE, not software. If you would rely more on software then android devices wouldnt pass 8 score….

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:27 14

18. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


"emmm they reviewed PHONE, not software."

Phone without a software, separate? Right? :D
Think before making silly excuses! ;)

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:31

19. nestea (unregistered)


your avatar shows that you are little kid and trolling on Apple related posts, so i dont care what you write….

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:38 10

23. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5484; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


First of all, my avatar shows that I don't like certain type of Apple users (not all).

I'm a "little kid" because you are making silly excuses? It more looks like you are out of reasonable arguments to justify your silly excuses. :D

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:49 9

25. Izoe (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Sep 2010)


@nestea, PAU has a point though, the software of the phone is part of the review, unless you didn't read it. Noticed after updating my iphone 5, the battery drained a lot quicker. Had to start carrying my charger around, just in case. Even though you use a particular platform shouldn't make you blind to their faults. Constructive criticism helps to push development/improvement.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:28 3

40. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8719; Member since: 14 May 2012)


*claps*

Great comment.

+1

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:37 6

47. ady_lad (Posts: 73; Member since: 17 Jul 2013)


Handset & OS=Phone
Handset& No OS=Brick

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 12:38

59. artealis (Posts: 98; Member since: 15 Dec 2010)


smartphone without OS = feature phone

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 18:59

74. taikucing (unregistered)


what about the on screen keyboard bugs like the picture above? Isn't the keyboard part of the OS?
what about the lock screen bug? Isn't lock screen part of the OS?
the the blue screen of death? Isn't that caused by the OS?

"If you would rely more on software then android devices wouldnt pass 8 score…."

you forget the phones like Xperia Z1, HTC One, Galaxy Note 3. Those phones are worthy to get 9 score.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:32 6

44. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5879; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Don't you know that bugs in iOS are due to the user not launching the app correctly?

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:36 5

21. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


oh the blue screen of death. i thought that only happened on windows computers? you know, windows 95 and 98?

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 09:51 3

28. Izoe (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Sep 2010)


Still happens on windows 8, but they've added a smiley. Smh...like that would help calm your rage when you've just lost all your unsaved work.

posted on 11 Oct 2013, 10:07 1

31. sum182 (Posts: 229; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


i laughed the first time i saw it! lol Don't try to disguise it MS, i know what this is!!

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