Apple's thermonuclear legal strategy scores a big win
0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 17:00 posted on
The verdict is in, and Apple racked up more than $1 billion in damages against Samsung, although it failed to protect the design of the iPad/iPad 2, and probably won't be able to get injunctions against as many devices as it had hoped...
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139. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
The most interesting man in the world says. I don't always file lawsuits, but when I do I beat Samsung. Buy apple my friends.
150. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
The thing is, Apple DOES always file lawsuits... so that isnt something the most interesting man in the world would do.
153. DechyX (Posts: 132; Member since: 16 May 2011)
strange... I always thought he said stay thirsty my friends... guess I could be wrong
141. joey_sfb (Posts: 5809; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I am surprised that the jury fine Samsung so heavily on Apple design patent and yet let Apple has a free ride on Samsung's utility patents. Lopsided trial.
Anyway I just bought a galaxy tab 7.7 to show my support for Samsung.
248. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)
Then your a fool! Spending money in support of a company because they got beat in court.
149. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Looks like the jury, in their hurry to get back to their lives (and who can blame them), tried wrapping this up in a jiffy. Seems to me from what I heard that they got sloppy.
151. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yup, and the sad part is now they need the judges help to figure out the form that they just wized through not too long ago. Kinda makes ya wonder how much thought they actually put into it.
152. joey18 (Posts: 589; Member since: 20 Jul 2010)
I'm happy samsung sucks make your own shiet sent from my gs3
161. tedkord (Posts: 11890; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Everybody, while this was a lopsided verdict, it wasn't that bad. A good portion will probably be overturned on appeal, and the most important thing - Apple's rectangle with rounded sides patents were not found to be a factor.
So I wish it had gone better? Actually, I'd have preferred to see both sides soaked and sent to bed without supper. But in the long run, Apple's position on rounded rectangles is severely weakened, and only a few devices were found to be infringing on a few specific patents. I don't know how they can to with the dollar amount, but this was not a crippling decision, and it will continue in appeal, where it's very possible the award will be reduced significantly.
193. joey_sfb (Posts: 5809; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
What wouldn't kill you will make you stronger. Apple used to be my number one brand over M$, now i despite it.
165. RapidCat (Posts: 351; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
Long run and only 1 billion?
Microsoft without war with samsung make 800million from samsung.
What a waste of time
171. NewWireless (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Microsoft = PIMP of the industry. Patents In My Pocket
So that price of the no longer subsidized phone just went up even more that you wanted.
The aftermarket for a good used cell phone just got busier.
Samsung ironically one a similar case the other day in Korea against Apple, and well, this will barely register as a blimp on Sammys earnings, the new notepad coming out and the GS4, will all avoid anything next to what Apple has, and it will sell.
Can we get back to the real problems here. Remove the bloatware from all phones, iPhones, and Sammys!
167. So-Sayz-Eye (Posts: 30; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)
I'm sorry but this verdict was assured once Samsung wasn't allowed to use its prior art in the case. From the leaked designs there no way a sensible jury would rule in Apples favor.
Unfortunately, I have to take Apple's side on the UI designs, slightly anyway. The touchwhiz UI is just way to similar, and I'm sure that was more of a deciding factor to the jurors than anything else.I will say that icon similarity should have been thrown out. How can you patent a picture representing a phone. THere is but so few ways to demonstrate a phone in such a small space. How many people would really connect a rotary dial to a phonecall nowadays. Maybe the music icon should have been an 8-track. The point being that is too broad a patent with so few relevant options.
168. NewWireless (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Sad day for the industry. I am sorry, but that means, Samsung can go and sue Toshiba and Sony can sue, Sharp and every other maker of a flat screen TV, they all just about look the same, but you know they are different by the manufacturer. The jury was idiots. The same of a phone is damn near standard. On the flip side maybe it will encourage a new wave of designs something not so square?? who knows, all cell phones look like to me from a distance, but I see Goodyear Tires suing Pirelli Tires, because of the roundness of the tires are too damn similar!
Samsung will be fine, I don't use either product, but I know that Apple crossed the line with this one. You know its an apple product when you turn it on and you log into your itunes account, how many samsung phones are able to connect and register via itunes?!?!?!?!?
For people that can't tell the difference, I have a plot of land for sale that has oil underground for you to purchase for a cool $1000, on the cheap!
170. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Its weird how TVs, cars, Blu-Ray players, computers etc. can look alike with no one complaining, but when u do the same for a smartphone, it becomes a holy war.
Not sure why, maybe people are toooo attached to their mobile devices and are extremely loyal to their manufacturers but its like seems like ahttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.
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Also, Samsung didn't loose too badly on this one, the rectangle patents didn't win and they didn't slow down any Android products so in conclusion, this trial seemed like a waste of time.
172. NewWireless (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Wait for it... isnt' Apple about to launch a TV or something.....
who has the original design of that stashed away?!?!?!? I see another lawsuit!
173. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Honestly, i think samsung copied Apple's designs up until the Galaxy SII, but Samsung became successful after building on the previous designs of its phones, yet it seems unfair to htc, which has probably the most unique UI out there, because I've always favored htc over Samsung. Hopefully, if people step aside from the mainstream (iPhone and Galaxy SIII) they might discover something that is far better than either.
177. tedkord (Posts: 11890; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I love sense ui. I don't know why people hate it so much. Best ui around, imo.
179. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Funny thing is if they hate it, they can always download a free launcher from the market to make it more simple.
190. PhilTech (Posts: 11; Member since: 16 Jun 2012)
Its been said a million times, what's one more? HTC One X would have killed the S3 if only they made the battery removable and added MicroSD considering that the build quality is better and that it was released way ahead of the S3. its simple, consumers like options not restrictions.
196. bantheiphonedotcom (banned) (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)
Apple would disagree with you and may sue you in court, if you are not careful.
251. phoenixpr (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
I agree with PhilTech, I've saying this since day one. Everyone was saying I was wrong. Hmm? I think not. HTC One X would have killed the S3 if only they made the battery removable and added MicroSD is a true statment.
245. JessJess (unregistered)
Phones are personal things. So people get very defensive on what seems like a /personal/ attack.
175. annymu5 (Posts: 15; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)
I could not wait to come back to this site to read all the hate. HAHA the people on this site are straight comedy. I am sorry for Samsung's loss but looking at how identical the devises were and the documents that Samsung had showing in black and white that they set out to copy Apple, justice was served.
Keep the comments coming I love a good laugh. Especially the one they call Remixfa.
Taco, good game. lol. Ok im gone again until I need another catastrophic laugh.
178. NewWireless (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Every industry buys their competitors products and disects it.
So what do you say to all the TV's and DVD's that all look a like.
So if Apple comes out with a TV, that looks like a Toshiba TV should Toshiba sue because they look similiar?
200. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Yup just like MiG 21 was disected on American soil long long back :)
182. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
If you need a good laugh, please watch these (hope you're a video game person)
176. fistigons (Posts: 336; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)
Looks like someone is going through every comment and putting a thumbs down. Thumb this down if you are a douche.
180. NewWireless (Posts: 27; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)
Next lawsuite in the making
184. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Wow it's like Rome vs Carthage all over again, hopefully this time neither one will completely burn the other to the ground. But this time they're taking it into space!