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Apple's thermonuclear legal strategy scores a big win

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 17:00 posted on

The verdict is in, and Apple racked up more than $1 billion in damages against Samsung, although it failed to protect the design of the iPad/iPad 2, and probably won't be able to get injunctions against as many devices as it had hoped...

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posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:09 5

36. kabukijoe (Posts: 102; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)


Apple has the jurors paid off.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:24 1

59. cdgoin (Posts: 542; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


I have to say I hate Apple more than probably anyone.. But that said, looking at the evidence, even I would have had to side with Apple. That said, Apple showed a Nokia 900 and brought it as an example of innovation and NOT a copy of iPhone.

Funniest thing, Apple stole much of their UI from windows mobile 5.0 so you know they wont try to go after MS if WindowsPhone finally takes off.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:10 6

37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


wow is this judgement 1 sided. they didnt side with samsung on any patents so far. This highlights the huge difference in the courts in the world between ours and samsungs.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:10 5

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the ipod touch got found to be infringing, but the iphones did not........ how the hell?? its the exact same thing but WITHOUT the 3g radio.. lol.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:12 4

40. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


zero damages to samsung from apple? woooooow.

Soooo.. who wants to take bets on how fast the laywers are preparing their appeal? I bet its already written.. lol

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:14

43. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


One sided judgment ... arrogance at it's best.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:14 5

45. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


1 bil 50 mil =/= 1.5 bil

numbers. how do they work?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:26 3

63. ayephoner (Posts: 850; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


thumbing down math, huh? typical

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:43 2

81. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


You were right - an initial report had it at $1.5, it's updated now.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:16 2

48. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


a one sided court hearing for the prosecution from the beginning with only snippets of impartiality from the Judge turns out a one sided jury finding with only snippets for the defendant. Amazing.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:19 6

51. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


one difference between this case and korea, other than the obvious lopsided nature of the verdict. In korea they found every phone except the SGS3 basically as infringing and banned, where here they only found the SGS1 american variants infringing and not much else. Not gonna be much if any phone banning since most are not on sale, but still, the verdict is crazy and now apple has precedence to go after other manufacturers.

Hit that appeal button.. hit it now, samsung!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:19 1

52. DechyX (Posts: 132; Member since: 16 May 2011)


2.3 billion evidentlyhttp://live.cnet.com/Event/Apple_vs_Samsung_verdict

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:29

64. DechyX (Posts: 132; Member since: 16 May 2011)


nm 1.05bil now -__-

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:22

56. cdgoin (Posts: 542; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)


Winner, Windows Phone.. Think HTC and Samsung, and others aren't going to look at Windows Phone as the safer bet..

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:26 1

62. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


This wasnt about stock Android. This was about some things Samsung did that was found to be infringing on Apple patents.

Samsung, HTC and others dont need to dump Android anytime soon.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:31

68. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


exactly, they were going after touchwiz and the SGS1.. and older unused versions of touchwiz at that. The jury didnt find anything for the SGS2/SGS3.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:03 1

109. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Lmao na na nanana apple wonnnnn

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:20 1

128. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


can you explain what they won, troll, other than money, which is pretty much no object to either of these companies?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:02 2

156. Aeires (unregistered)


Are you 2 years old?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:06 1

159. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


No 1 1/2

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:33 1

71. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


sorry I don't see it happening

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:23 2

58. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Actually its 1.05 billion PA... considering this ''copying'' took Samsung to the top I would say 1.05 billion is an OK price to pay Considering where it has brought Samsung mobile division too..again good for apple I just hope all the itrolls don't get giddy as if they have won a court case...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:24 1

61. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


@Scott.

Do you know if this means that apple's rectangle ipad drawings are invalidated completely, or just valid for this case?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:46

84. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


I don't know for sure, but the jury seems to have accepted that Apple can't claim any protection for the iPad because other products shipped or were shown (including the Galaxy Tab) prior to its release, so I suspect Apple is basically out of luck in the tablet market.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:30 7

67. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)


this is pathetic, koh was one sided from the beginning and it rubbed off on the jury, so much for common sense. the sad part is, i'm not even a samsung fan and this upsets me.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:48 6

90. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


To be fair to the jury, Samsung's lawyers did not do near the job that Google's did vs. Oracle. Samsung seemed to be too concerned with counter suits and non-infringement, rather than making the vast majority of the case about validity.

Think about it for a moment; the question of patent validity on the jury form was AFTER the questions on infringement. How can that possibly be? Samsung's legal team clearly failed to properly frame the issue from the start.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:52 3

95. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the jury form? yea, I cant believe samsung didnt fight that tooth and nail. Having it reverse the way it was practically guaranteed a favorable return of some sort for apple. if they've already gone through the work and said yes to a few things, then its pretty likely they will say the patent is valid.

maybe they need to bring the lawyers from Korea over to help the american lawyers. They did a better job on offence, though the americans did a better job on some defense.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:53 1

97. parkwaydr (Posts: 572; Member since: 07 Sep 2011)


how can you say they failed when more than half of what they put up for evidence was shot down by koh?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:22 1

131. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Agree, Google did a great job against oracle, Samsung could have done better

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:36 3

72. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


This is typical American way of punishing Korea's ban on Iphone 4/4S and yes it seems a revenge going by the swiftness and hurry with which it was done. Would never buy any Apple Product ever.

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