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Apple's thermonuclear legal strategy scores a big win

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 17:00 posted on

The verdict is in, and Apple racked up more than $1 billion in damages against Samsung, although it failed to protect the design of the iPad/iPad 2, and probably won't be able to get injunctions against as many devices as it had hoped...

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posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:57 13

27. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Well, we can bet that Samsung's legal team will be working over the weekend on appeals...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 22:14 4

192. smartphone (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)


Their legal team should be fired. They are playing defensive from starting not in counter argument mode.

yes, the galaxy series had some iPhone influence in design and app drawer but who on earth had bought them thinking its an iPhone.
1 billion $ is huge literally Apple was asking for almost all the profit from the galaxy series.
Apple was preparing the evidences for almost one year too bad Samsung ignored it and payed in the courtroom.

Samsung should fire their design team also they are useless and appeal fresh in court to lower down the fine.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:11 12

39. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Wow, either Koh's attitudes towards samsung influenced the jurors, or something is amiss. Darn near everything is going against Samsung. None of us rationally expected such a one-sided verdict. Looking forward to appeals

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:14 21

44. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yea there is no frikkin way. no patents invalidated by all that obvious prior art and tech, 95% one sided verdict. An itrolls dream.

Watch the itrolling for the next few days.. woow its gonna be sad.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:39 4

77. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


remixfa, when you were making ongoing racists comments about mainland chinese workers and factories on PA, I had the courage to stand up to you and demand you stop. As a result, you are now more careful when you post about about mainland chinese workers, factories, etc.

If there was anyone that was a bully on PA, it IS you. For some reason, you just won't stock bullying.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:47 10

86. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ardent, what the hell are you talking about.

Please link me to any "racist comments I made about Chinese workers" or take your false claims and go away. That is complete slander. I'm glad you had "courage" on the internet.. doesnt everyone? too bad you have no idea what your talking about.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:10 3

114. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Net-net, it seems Sammy's attorneys biffed on invalidity. The next bite of the Apple comes from Google-Motorola. Google-Motorola know how to play the invalidity game (been there, done that with Oracle).

Now lets see if Sammy changes its legal team on the appeal.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:29 4

65. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


I stated in another thread that Apple would probably get 1.7 billion in damages. Apple's lawyer's are excellent at their jobs and Samsung clearly wasn't prepared and it showed.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:32 6

69. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its 1.05 billion as an award, so you were 650 million off. :)

Still less than half of their asking price, even though the award is completely idiotic as it is.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:38 3

75. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


I think it was fair, that's why I said I thought 1.7 billion. Samsung copied and it's been proven. As I stated they have done a decent job recently of moving away from the blatant copying but bottom line is they are obsessed with Apple and we're willing to do anything to compete. Great day for Apple! Don't hate me, I don't care because my pockets didn't get any bigger from this.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:45 5

82. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


were all entitled to our opinions.. no matter how wrong. :)

Yes, for apple it was a good day.. but no, it wasnt a great day. A great day for them (which would have been BAD for everyone else) would have been having their generic ipad and other design patents held up. Having those validated would have given them armor piercing ammo against every tablet and like 90% of all phones out these days. That was the only part I was worried about. Thankfully it didnt happen.

If samsung copied the bounce effect, then they got justifiably slapped. they didnt spend much time at all defending it, so they probably knew it was a copy and they were gonna get busted. However, Samsung not winning on ANY of their patents is a problem, especially in light of winning on those same patents in korea just a little while ago. Also, they should have won an end to some of apple's patents based on very obvious prior art/tech. That is a shocker.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:48 4

89. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


Samsung didn't deserve anything imo! Not bad for me at all bro, I buy my devices outright, so I could care less what they charge. Samsung makes great products so I really didn't see the point of copying!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:11 8

116. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


This is not over, iCan't wait for Googorola to iAnnihilate Apple.

Meanwhile, I will still be buying my G-Note 2 in a few months.
I'm glad Apple spent billions in legal fees to stop NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:14 3

122. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


You think they spent billions? BTW, maybe you haven't noticed but no company can or will annihilate Apple, they have some of, if not the deepest pockets! Money talks!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:18 7

126. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


dont mistake 1 win for invincibility. You forget, they got smeared on this exact same case in Korea.. so a lot of it is a flip of the coin.

Google wouldnt be stepping in the ring directly if it didnt feel it had very strong evidence. Unlike Apple, Google is rarely the aggressor. Dont just think Apple is gonna win because they are "Apple".
Actually, their court record is not overly favorable of winning.. it seems near 50/50 at this point.This however was a pretty decent victory for them money wise, but not much else since the infringing products are so old.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:27 3

133. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


It's not invincibility. It's letting people know that you won't just go for people stealing your stuff and not paying. All i'm saying is, Apple has extremely deep pockets and they seem to have their stuff together.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:31 6

143. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yes, they definitely have lots o cash and a plan. that much is true. We will just have to disagree on the absolute hypocrisy of your first statement. Apple is a master thief and makes no bones about it.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 21:05 3

183. willard12 (Posts: 1729; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Quick question....what did Apple invent? I understand what they have patented. But when you say "stealing'" you have to acknowledge that apple has stolen everything it has. Any comments on stealing without acknowledging the Apple motto of "great artists steal" are useless. Saying there is no toleration for stealing when their CEO says on camera that they have been shameless about "stealing" can be confusing.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:27 1

134. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)


Just two corrections Remixfa:

It's not so much 'a flip of the coin' as it is of Judge Lucy Deucy Ho.

Not only are their infringed 'products so old' but, their new uninfringed products are also old washed-up has beens.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:29 5

140. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the SGS3 and SGS2 are washed up has-beens? mmmmkay.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:55 1

174. iTOLDYOUSOSUCKER (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


I TOLD YOU SO SUCKER!

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:46 2

214. mandkeee (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Feb 2009)


im telling ya~~~

samsung = copycat,...

no matter what any happen....that is 100% true

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 03:25 1

219. lukasound (Posts: 152; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


This would be very different if it took place on a Korean court.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:04 2

2. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


And so we enter endgame...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:43 4

17. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Then there's the appeal process. My advice is: Don't hold your breathe.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:05 3

3. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)


Great Judge Koh, hurry up and get it over with! you shortend the process for samsung to build a case might as well finish it off already.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:09 5

4. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Nah... now we get to enter the appeals process, which I fully expect to sound like, "Nuh uh!" (except that it's going to be about 4,000 words long).

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:10 2

5. Supermanz28 (Posts: 17; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


Hury up i want to know if apple gets to stick it to another person just bc they have money to blow on pointless crap, its what happens when rich people get there feeling hurt bc they feel they were wronged

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:10 2

6. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


C'mon, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:13 3

8. Commentator (Posts: 3709; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


What about big bucks?

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