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Apple's thermonuclear legal strategy scores a big win

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 17:00 posted on

The verdict is in, and Apple racked up more than $1 billion in damages against Samsung, although it failed to protect the design of the iPad/iPad 2, and probably won't be able to get injunctions against as many devices as it had hoped...

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posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:27 3

133. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 470; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)

It's not invincibility. It's letting people know that you won't just go for people stealing your stuff and not paying. All i'm saying is, Apple has extremely deep pockets and they seem to have their stuff together.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:27 1

134. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Just two corrections Remixfa:

It's not so much 'a flip of the coin' as it is of Judge Lucy Deucy Ho.

Not only are their infringed 'products so old' but, their new uninfringed products are also old washed-up has beens.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:29 5

140. remixfa (Posts: 14598; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

the SGS3 and SGS2 are washed up has-beens? mmmmkay.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:31 6

143. remixfa (Posts: 14598; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

yes, they definitely have lots o cash and a plan. that much is true. We will just have to disagree on the absolute hypocrisy of your first statement. Apple is a master thief and makes no bones about it.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:59 2

154. techaman (unregistered)

that should be apple paying for damages to samsung for stopping sales in other country's.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:29 3

166. MartyK (Posts: 920; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)

this one is better:

"As Samsung's attorneys peruse the verdict form, I see one of those bubbles over their heads that reads: "We'll see what the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals has to say about this"

Live blog__ http://www.siliconvalley.com/apple-vs-samsung/ci_21356424/live-blog-verdict-apple-samsung-patent-trial-billion-victory

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:55 1

174. iTOLDYOUSOSUCKER (Posts: 3; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


posted on 24 Aug 2012, 21:05 3

183. willard12 (unregistered)

Quick question....what did Apple invent? I understand what they have patented. But when you say "stealing'" you have to acknowledge that apple has stolen everything it has. Any comments on stealing without acknowledging the Apple motto of "great artists steal" are useless. Saying there is no toleration for stealing when their CEO says on camera that they have been shameless about "stealing" can be confusing.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 22:30 1

195. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 533; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)

What I want to know is what impact will this have on my future experience when using Android devices? I miss the end of scroll bounce that I had with Gingerbread, if I lose things like pinch-to-zoom or double tap that is really going to suck.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 00:56 5

212. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)

yea you'r right..

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 11:23 1

246. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I only support what's fair.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:46 2

214. mandkeee (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Feb 2009)

im telling ya~~~

samsung = copycat,...

no matter what any happen....that is 100% true

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 02:46 1

217. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

I am pleased with the outcome so far although some of the rulings that didnt pass i think should have passed

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 03:25 1

219. lukasound (Posts: 152; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)

This would be very different if it took place on a Korean court.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:21 2

223. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Of course you are.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 09:19 2

239. rf1975 (Posts: 259; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)

Moto, HTC, Sony never made any copycat product like Shamsung did. These companies product are better than shamsung crapy plactic copycat. Dude, there are lot of different between Stock Android and iOS. So any lawsuite against Android will not bring any good outcome to Apple. I like to see Moto, HTC or Sony becoming a leading Andoid player than Shamsung. Because Shamsung is the one who made this mess making counterfeit crap. Now they are crying customers will lose. Why customers will lose? If customers need iOS experience then they will buy Apple. You do not need to make copycat for people. Now stop crying, bring something inovative like Moto, HTC ot Sony etc.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:14 1

253. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Then why the lack of support for any lawsuit against Apple?

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:16 1

254. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

Because it's Google contradicting themselves and Apple is simply protecting their business.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:27 1

255. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Nice to know that you never bother modifying your viewpoint even when it's explained thoroughly why you're completely wrong.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 10:48

256. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

Didn't you hear? 3 out of the 4 Googlerola patents were tossed out in the case. Guess I wasn't so wrong.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 12:27 1

257. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Yeah, but one of them wasn't. And Googorola has seven more pending which aren't FRAND or standards essential, so you can't claim victory there.

Furthermore, you're wrong over the moral positions of the companies involved. You act like Google didn't put any effort into designing Android and therefore has no right to try to protect it against Apple.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 01:42

258. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

So you're saying it's ok for Google to sue Apple but Apple can't sue Motorola or Samsung?

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 01:55 2

259. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Not at all. I'm saying that if it's A-okay for Apple to sue the other companies, then it's especially A-okay for Google to sue them right back, especially in a defensive context, which the lawsuit CLEARLY EXISTS IN.

I really wish neither company would have sued the other, but going back in history, Motorola's initial lawsuit was because Apple refused to pay them a single red cent for any of the patents Apple clearly used for the iPhone which Motorola owns. For years.

All Motorola wanted was some compensation for decades worth of R and D. However, Apple decided to not only sue them right back, but then sue HTC and Samsung as well, because if you're going to display massive hypocrisy, you might as well go for broke.

So basically, what's good enough for Apple should be good enough for the rest of the wireless industry. Samsung and HTC happily pay royalties to Microsoft, so it's not a general disregard for patents that's the problem. The problem is that Apple thinks they can get away with not paying anyone else for their work while demanding extortionist amounts of money from everyone else.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:04 2

2. Commentator (Posts: 3721; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

And so we enter endgame...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:43 4

17. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

Then there's the appeal process. My advice is: Don't hold your breathe.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:05 3

3. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)

Great Judge Koh, hurry up and get it over with! you shortend the process for samsung to build a case might as well finish it off already.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:09 5

4. roscuthiii (Posts: 2231; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

Nah... now we get to enter the appeals process, which I fully expect to sound like, "Nuh uh!" (except that it's going to be about 4,000 words long).

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:10 2

5. Supermanz28 (Posts: 17; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)

Hury up i want to know if apple gets to stick it to another person just bc they have money to blow on pointless crap, its what happens when rich people get there feeling hurt bc they feel they were wronged

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:10 2

6. roscuthiii (Posts: 2231; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)

C'mon, no whammies, no whammies, no whammies!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:13 3

8. Commentator (Posts: 3721; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

What about big bucks?

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