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Apple's thermonuclear legal strategy scores a big win

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 17:00 posted on

The verdict is in, and Apple racked up more than $1 billion in damages against Samsung, although it failed to protect the design of the iPad/iPad 2, and probably won't be able to get injunctions against as many devices as it had hoped...

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posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:03 29

1. roscuthiii (Posts: 2226; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


dun-Dun-DUN!!!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:39 22

15. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


is it just me or is the beam-balance pic tilted in apple's direction?

I'm supporting samsung so don't thumb me down! just asking :)

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:44 3

18. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


It is, but it depends on what's being measured. You want the scales to be even to prove equality. Apple being lower shows it's heavier; interpret as you will

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:50 9

22. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6460/juryreturnsaverdictinap.jpg

turns out i was right

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 00:56 5

212. kartik4u98 (Posts: 511; Member since: 19 May 2012)


yea you'r right..

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 22:30 1

195. SuperMaoriBro (Posts: 527; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


What I want to know is what impact will this have on my future experience when using Android devices? I miss the end of scroll bounce that I had with Gingerbread, if I lose things like pinch-to-zoom or double tap that is really going to suck.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 02:46 1

217. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I am pleased with the outcome so far although some of the rulings that didnt pass i think should have passed

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:21 2

223. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Of course you are.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 11:23 1

246. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I only support what's fair.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:14 1

253. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Then why the lack of support for any lawsuit against Apple?

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:16 1

254. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Because it's Google contradicting themselves and Apple is simply protecting their business.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 00:27 1

255. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Nice to know that you never bother modifying your viewpoint even when it's explained thoroughly why you're completely wrong.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 10:48

256. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Didn't you hear? 3 out of the 4 Googlerola patents were tossed out in the case. Guess I wasn't so wrong.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 12:27 1

257. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yeah, but one of them wasn't. And Googorola has seven more pending which aren't FRAND or standards essential, so you can't claim victory there.

Furthermore, you're wrong over the moral positions of the companies involved. You act like Google didn't put any effort into designing Android and therefore has no right to try to protect it against Apple.

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 01:42

258. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 14191; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


So you're saying it's ok for Google to sue Apple but Apple can't sue Motorola or Samsung?

posted on 28 Aug 2012, 01:55 2

259. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Not at all. I'm saying that if it's A-okay for Apple to sue the other companies, then it's especially A-okay for Google to sue them right back, especially in a defensive context, which the lawsuit CLEARLY EXISTS IN.

I really wish neither company would have sued the other, but going back in history, Motorola's initial lawsuit was because Apple refused to pay them a single red cent for any of the patents Apple clearly used for the iPhone which Motorola owns. For years.

All Motorola wanted was some compensation for decades worth of R and D. However, Apple decided to not only sue them right back, but then sue HTC and Samsung as well, because if you're going to display massive hypocrisy, you might as well go for broke.

So basically, what's good enough for Apple should be good enough for the rest of the wireless industry. Samsung and HTC happily pay royalties to Microsoft, so it's not a general disregard for patents that's the problem. The problem is that Apple thinks they can get away with not paying anyone else for their work while demanding extortionist amounts of money from everyone else.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:50 7

21. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Live updates:http://live.theverge.com/apple-samsung-verdict-live/#

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:52 6

24. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


thanks!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:05 9

32. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


"1 billion, 51 million 855 thousand dollars" in damage!

Yikes!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:09 6

35. Orbitman (Posts: 110; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)


yeah! and it looks like sammy aint gettin sh*t!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:13 6

41. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


true that:
Damages from Samsung to Apple: zero.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:17 5

50. Orbitman (Posts: 110; Member since: 09 Oct 2011)


in the words of Flavor Flav: "WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!​!!"

i see a flame war of biblical proportions coming in the near future

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:21 3

55. jroc74 (Posts: 6015; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


LOL!!

The flame war to end all flame wars....Oh well. I'm patiently awaiting the RAZR HD...big Motorola fan.

All I will say is good luck Google in this fight against Apple...I got a feeling they will be coming after Google for stock Android real soon.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:22 22

57. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Google is taking it directly to Apple through Moto. They just started that one up. For once, Apple is going to be on the defense in a big case. Time to punish the bully.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 09:19 2

239. rf1975 (Posts: 258; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


Moto, HTC, Sony never made any copycat product like Shamsung did. These companies product are better than shamsung crapy plactic copycat. Dude, there are lot of different between Stock Android and iOS. So any lawsuite against Android will not bring any good outcome to Apple. I like to see Moto, HTC or Sony becoming a leading Andoid player than Shamsung. Because Shamsung is the one who made this mess making counterfeit crap. Now they are crying customers will lose. Why customers will lose? If customers need iOS experience then they will buy Apple. You do not need to make copycat for people. Now stop crying, bring something inovative like Moto, HTC ot Sony etc.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 19:59 2

154. techaman (unregistered)


that should be apple paying for damages to samsung for stopping sales in other country's.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:15 10

47. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


...Why would there be a thums down for posting a useful link for watching the events unfold live? Sheesh

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:17 5

49. Ohrules (Posts: 327; Member since: 11 Jun 2012)


it's probably one guy, as all the comments got thumbed down at once!

warning: Troll Aboard. (not necessarily the username TROLL)

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:20 9

54. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yea, but it more than likely starts with a T or a G

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 20:29 3

166. MartyK (Posts: 846; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


this one is better:

"As Samsung's attorneys peruse the verdict form, I see one of those bubbles over their heads that reads: "We'll see what the Federal Circuit Court of Appeals has to say about this"

Live blog__ http://www.siliconvalley.com/apple-vs-samsung/ci_21356424/live-blog-verdict-apple-samsung-patent-trial-billion-victory

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