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Apple's pinch-to-zoom patent invalidated by USPTO

0. phoneArena 19 Dec 2012, 18:48 posted on

One of Apple's most famous patents, one used by the Cupertino based tech giant in its suit against arch-rival Samsung, has been declared invalid by the USPTO; the "pinch-to-zoom" patent was completely invalidated because of previous patents on record, according to a court filing by Korean based Samsung which is trying to reverse a damage award of $1.05 billion that the jury gave to Apple...

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posted on 19 Dec 2012, 18:51 41

1. techguy22 (Posts: 227; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)

hahahah keep them coming !!!!

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:09 22

18. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)

Good news! :)
And I think that USPTO should review all Apple patents, I'm pretty sure that they would find even more invalid patents not only '949 patent (a.k.a. "Steve Jobs patent") or this "pinch-to-zoom" patent...

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 21:08

35. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

All I wanna know is if Apple will patent pinch zooming or not,
so I can SMACK THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 00:14 3

48. MeoCao (unregistered)

I guess Apple spent a lot of money on the old USPTO boss, now that dumbass is gone and it's payback time for Apple.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:20 24

19. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Not a good day for Apple. I wonder if HTC should sue Apple for malicious prosecution?

Now we just need local + web search invalidated.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:40

27. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)

Web search???
How can they search the web if they're on wifi, what if the router breaks?

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:52

30. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Huh? If the router breaks, no web search result is presented.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 01:27

54. vishu9 (Posts: 252; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)

Absolutely! I hope it happens soon! I use local search through the search bar pretty frequently, and that's the reason I am scared to move to anything above ICS 4.0.3

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:32 7

24. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


posted on 19 Dec 2012, 21:14 4

37. MeoCao (unregistered)

haha, good news comes thick and fast

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 18:55 14

2. wendygarett (unregistered)

It's about time to invalidate lol...
this tech patents should only available for about 2 years enough...

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:00 26

4. Zero0 (Posts: 592; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


This shouldn't have received a patent at all. For most technologies, the current lengths aren't too bad.

I'd argue that patents are hardly the worst that IP has to offer. Copyrights are practically eternal. The patent system wouldn't be bad if they didn't grant patents to ridiculously broad or obvious "technologies."

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:00 2

17. wendygarett (unregistered)

The 1st iPhone release at 2007 and this patent invalid at 2009

does this hurt much? And Google release 1st nexus at 2010... Therefore 2 years patent doesn't hurt much for Google dude...

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:27 8

21. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

You are confusing invalid patents with the protection period for valid patents. A valid patent deserves a period of exclusivity as a way to incentivise the investment needed to invent an innovation. If there was only a 2 year exclusivity period, most medical treatments wouldn't be available, because no one would drop the $2+ Billion most new drugs require to bring a drug to market.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:31 4

23. wendygarett (unregistered)

Medical are different with tech imo...

the reason I say 2 years is because to avoid anti-competition happened... The world is boring if all people using Apple products lol

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 20:36 4

26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Do you think the $ would have dropped to invent the transistor if patent protection were not available? You are confusing patent protection with invalid patents. Invalid patents should get no protection.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 21:10 2

36. wendygarett (unregistered)

Maybe I should learn more on patent, forgive me Mr Doug, I'm just a kids, but I'm appreciate your conversation :)


posted on 19 Dec 2012, 18:56 20

3. Scientist (Posts: 19; Member since: 22 Oct 2012)


posted on 19 Dec 2012, 21:07 5

34. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:02 36

5. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)

Next... rectangular designs!

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:30 8

13. sorcio46 (Posts: 435; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)

Ahahah I hope that :D

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:56 13

14. Cynipap999 (banned) (Posts: 138; Member since: 15 Nov 2012)

Never will happen, Apple invented the rectangle and the circle. Just look at the Home button on iPhone/iPad/iTouch, it's perfectly round and perfectly placed within that lovely rectangle in just the right spot.

I never understood why Apple needed a patent on "pinch-to-zoom", the iPhone has always had a teeny-tiny screen so there's not really anything to pinch and not much to zoom.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 00:17

49. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:03 15

6. tedkord (Posts: 13446; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

In my best Freddie Mercury impersonation: "Another one bites the dust. And another one gone. And another one gone. Another bites the dust."

Now, back to serious conversation. It's about time the USPTO started looking at all the prior art and obviousness/broadness of Apple's patents, and began invalidating them. Long overdue, in fact.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:03 16

7. mahmoodh (Posts: 17; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)

hopefully the USPTO invalidates more of apple's stupid patents like rectangles with rounded corners and other BS.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:07 28

8. Izzy_V (Posts: 216; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)

Watch apple try and sue the patent office.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:59 4

16. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

LOL....good one

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:09 9

9. Raymond_htc (Posts: 430; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)

Wait if Apple patents Pinch to Zoom, Why is my LG phone having that feature?

Apple your patents fail?

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:10 4

10. theBankRobber (Posts: 682; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)

I think its already late for this overturn of a patent. Since HTC settled and Samsung was hung out in the court room, the damage for this false patent has already been done.

posted on 19 Dec 2012, 19:25 4

12. xtremesv (Posts: 298; Member since: 21 Oct 2011)

Maybe poor HTC that made a pact with the devil but Samsung hasn't settled down just yet as they are appealing the dubious trial outcome.

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