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Apple's filing reveals DOJ investigation of Samsung's use of its FRAND patents

0. phoneArena 23 Oct 2012, 23:46 posted on

A filing made by Apple with the ITC revealed that Samsung is being investigated for misuse of its FRAND patents; last week, it was learned that Google was considering settling similar charges made against it, and the search giant said other firms like Apple were going to court first before trying to license their patents...

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posted on 24 Oct 2012, 00:18 7

1. Naitto (Posts: 50; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)

Will this crap ever end.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 00:33

2. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

Only when companies stop violating patents.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 03:55 7

12. Savage (unregistered)

Correction - Only when Apple stops suing their biggest competitors over childish, trivial and troll patents.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 21:46

16. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

Protecting your property isn't trivial

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 00:34

3. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

Should have figured Samsung's patents were FRAND. Just can't go out and sue a company for something that's fair and reasonable.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:49 6

7. bayusuputra (Posts: 963; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)

still, if you compare the patents, one has industry essential patents, the other one only has patents that includes shapes resembling my toast in the morning and gesture that is similar to unzipping my pants..

just can't go out and sue a company for something that's so stupid and unreasonable..

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:59 2

9. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Which gesture is like unzipping which is patented by Apple? ... ... aah is it slide to unlock ?:D :D :D

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:06 6

4. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

Sounds like a desperation move on Apple's part. If you can't get the patents invalidated, get them determined to be subject to FRAND rules.

BTW, just because DOJ is investigating, doesn't mean Sammy is guilty. What is that principle - Innocent until proven guilty?

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 20:34

14. cheetah2k (Posts: 1713; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)

Agreed, I can't see why Sammy would be in trouble over seeking what's only fair for its FRAND patents.

I'm sure Apple asked Samsung for more than that for the gallery bounce patent, which has just been invalidated anyway (lol)

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:31

5. Naitto (Posts: 50; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)

I think people should just stop buying products from the both of them untill they grow up. Yeah it might mean giving up the best of both worlds for a year; but they will lessen to your wallet.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:46

6. webOSlove (unregistered)

Here we go again....

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 01:58

8. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Simple solution is all SW patents should be free for all in 2 years from date of being alloted. 2 years bis big time to recover your so called expenses on R&D. Grow up.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 03:34 2

10. someones4 (Posts: 625; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)

the problem which i see here is no one seems to actually know which terms are fair and which are not.
Maybe samsung feels that 2.4% is fair but apple does not.
This scenario is similar when someone tried to sell me homemade cookies for 10 dollars. She feels it is fair but i certainly don't

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 03:43

11. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

Actually Samsung i guess had quoted that others are paying so what's the big deal with apple why can't they pay. On that note the judge wanted all the deal papers between to be tabled and that made M$ and some other company shiver so both started lobbying not to let that happen. This whole patent, licensing and cross licensing deals are more murkier than we all know. I think Reuters was pressing hard for the deal details to be tabled but both M$ and some otehr company were wanting it avoided. No one is a SAINT in all this.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 10:16

13. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Fair and reasonable would be the same rate others pay. Is that 2.4%? I don't know. But that's the only way a rate can be fair and reasonable.

However, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that Apple didn't want to pay the same as others.

Ironically, if Apple were to price their iPhone fairly and reasonably (with a 20% profit margin), they'd probably pay less than others at the same 2.4% royalty rate.

posted on 24 Oct 2012, 21:11 1

15. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)

FCK U APPLE AND FCK U ITC HAVE NO RIGHT TO BAN THE COMPETITION. JUST ADMIT YOU'RE SCARED AS FCK. there's no piece as long APPLE pays the court system and judges

posted on 25 Oct 2012, 14:10

17. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


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