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Apple's disappointments and successes with the iPhone 4S announcement

0. phoneArena 05 Oct 2011, 08:56 posted on

Apple's event shows it has fallen into the Mac routine, where it may not be able to lead on all features or hardware, but will on focus on its core competencies, as well as unity, experience, and customer loyalty...

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posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:34

171. pandamaja (unregistered)


in best nerd voice:

Um well, actually, being that the iphone is the number one selling smart phone, yes you would be the follower.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:10 1

118. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


that makes no sense becuase the majority has an android phone…. so please dont argue invalid points,… and i will get an iphone purely becuase of the apps… even though android rivals numbers, it seriously is not comparable… apple has created the best app store and that is what will make me buy the iphone…. but if they release a 5 in january or something, i will be extremely pissed

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:20 2

139. vishu9 (Posts: 252; Member since: 03 Mar 2011)


u wish!!..keep dreaming iSheep..Android ICS is gonna make ur iOS 5 look like its from 10,000BC!..haha

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 21:51

241. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


um i never said anything about that.. please dont be ingnorant and pretend to make a battle…

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:40

173. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


Developers make or break the App Store not Apple and most of them are making their apps available for the Android Market now that they're seeing how successful Google's platform has become.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 21:52

242. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


yes but it isnt right now.. in the future i will switch to android if they actually do get as good of an app store

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 22:45

245. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


yeah..we actually have a pretty good selection. there's very few instances where i see an interesting app available for the iPhone that isn't available for my Droid 3.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:41 4

79. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


Aww look, the Android fans are pissing tears now just because the 4S >>> Galaxy S2

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:51 9

86. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


You would claim an oblong rock with an Apple logo scratched into it was superior to an Android device designed by Hephaestus himself. Probably related to your former choices of homoerotic profile pics, but who am I to judge? ;)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:12 1

119. maxican16 (Posts: 364; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)


Hephaestus reference! Never thought I'd see that. Brought a smile to my face =]

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:43

176. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Lol, I figured if I was going to make a reference to a phone with supernatural origins it might as well be the technology/building/forging god, right? ;)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:06 1

136. snowgator (Posts: 3600; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


As the average reader scrambles to find out who Hephaestus is, Snowgator just laughs really, realy hard.

Even if you didn't make me laugh, Snigs, I would have thumbed you up just for the Iron Giant ...

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:44 1

177. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


*pumps fist* Yes! Glad I could make you laugh! :D And finally, someone likes my Iron Giant picture! I added the Bionic eye in Photoshop.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 01:58 6

91. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)


your gall is almost admirable Miz, to witness Apple's defeat and to come in guns a blazin'...i'd expect nothing less.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:05

113. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


To paraphrase...well, myself, he's chosen his horse and he'll cheer it on even if loses by a mile.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:07

116. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


his horse just broke a leg and is about to be lapped by android, and he is still cheering it on thinking its going to win.

we love your delusional quips miz.. lol

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:21 1

122. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


And I don't see Taco or Miz taking issue with any of the critical points of the article. Their only line of attack is irrational digs at Android fans. It's the phone equivalent of mudslinging because your own candidate has nothing new to say.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:04

135. snowgator (Posts: 3600; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


2 ways to tell someone is losing an argument:

1) They change the subject.

2) They take cheap shots.

But, since it is Miz, I would have been bummed if he would have been any different...

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:29 1

142. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


It just gets frustrating when for once Taco makes a couple decent points, and when we try to engage him in discussion, rather than admit Android has any advantages, he does (1) or (2). I've had the same problem discussing politics with people who are strongly on one side or the other. Which tells me that some people's iPhone/Android fanhood has become purely emotional.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 10:53

155. aar0983 (Posts: 51; Member since: 26 Sep 2011)


that horse is gonne get his head cut off next week lol

posted on 06 Oct 2011, 20:21 1

253. cnwwyo (Posts: 126; Member since: 26 May 2011)


key word "almost", but i think it gives him too much credit......lol

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 06:52 2

108. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)


Have fun playing games on a thumbnail size screen lol.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:08

117. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


"hey whats that? a new apple thumb reader you have in your hand??"

"no, its the i4s"

lol

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 09:49 1

128. deeoh1084 (Posts: 50; Member since: 30 Dec 2009)


how the heck is iphone 4s better than galaxy s2? tell me one thing that's better than galaxy s2

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:12

185. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@teller. I'm sure you also said that with the ip3gs, and the ip4, and now the ip4s. And it makes you android fanboys look dumb when proven wrong over and over again . And you guys never learned :)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:25

189. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


That's just Fandroid hyperbole. Apple and the iPhone aren't going anywhere. If they don't change with the times though, they will stagnate.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:58

202. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@rolde. The iphone did not stagnate. It leveled up from a single core to a dual core. What were you expecting? A quad core? Really? It also improved from a 5mp to an 8mp camera. It leveled up from 780p to full 1080p HD. It improved its camera sensor and added another lens. It increased its RAM from 512mb to 1gb. It improved its antenna. It integrated an AI assistant Siri. Is that what you call stagnant? I don't think so my friend.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:16

204. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


When the iP4 came out, 1 Ghz processors were just coming on the market, few phones had a high-resolution screen, and the LTE network was still being constructed. That phone was at the head of the pack for smartphones and remained there for the better part of a year. I could name a half dozen Android phones with 1 Ghz dual cores, full HD recording, 1 GB RAM and 8 MP cameras on the market, and another half dozen coming before the end of 2011 with even better specs. They'll also have LTE. Apple will simply not be at the head of the pack with this product.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 16:33

225. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@rold. Unlike Apple, android OEM's release new android devices every month. I guess they do that so they can be the first to release something ahead of Apple. But then which particular phone model sold the most? It's the ip4. 2nd place is the ip3gs. Great huh. Yes, you could probably name a dozen or more dual core android phones out there, but name one who gives the same performance, stability, consistency as the iphone. NONE. Better specs does not always equal better performance.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 17:05

228. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Why do you (and Taco) keep bringing up the sales figure? There's only one phone iPhone 4S, one iPhone 4, one iPhone 3GS. There are HUNDREDS of Android phones, and that's the way we like it! Android phones are not and never will be about outselling the iPhone on an individual basis. They're about variety in power, pricing, shape and size - something for everyone.

No, better specs don't always equal better performance. What I'm saying is that in the coming weeks, there will be multiple Android phones that beat the iPhone's performance, something that wasn't true 2, 3, 4 years back. The market has changed, but Apple is acting like they still own it.

Stability may always be a selling point of the iPhone (Verizon even markets the iPhone's stability in their latest lit), but that doesn't make it the best for everyone.

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