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Apple's disappointments and successes with the iPhone 4S announcement

0. phoneArena 05 Oct 2011, 08:56 posted on

Apple's event shows it has fallen into the Mac routine, where it may not be able to lead on all features or hardware, but will on focus on its core competencies, as well as unity, experience, and customer loyalty...

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posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:21 1

169. MehItswhatever (unregistered)

The Apple stock dropping argument is dumb. The stock normally does drop afterproduct announcements.


I love my 2 Android phones, but I was an iPhone user for over 2 years and I can honestly say that I miss the app store and the stability. I have an upgrade available and I'm planning on using it on the Prime for 4G access, but the iPhone is a solid device and I'm considering it.

This was a very well written article about why the iPhone 4S should not be overlooked.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:34

171. pandamaja (unregistered)

in best nerd voice:

Um well, actually, being that the iphone is the number one selling smart phone, yes you would be the follower.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:40

173. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

Developers make or break the App Store not Apple and most of them are making their apps available for the Android Market now that they're seeing how successful Google's platform has become.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:43

176. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Lol, I figured if I was going to make a reference to a phone with supernatural origins it might as well be the technology/building/forging god, right? ;)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 12:44 1

177. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

*pumps fist* Yes! Glad I could make you laugh! :D And finally, someone likes my Iron Giant picture! I added the Bionic eye in Photoshop.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:03 2

181. lolwut (unregistered)

outdated specs but will out perform android? nice contradiction there buddy. The iPhone is just an icon the liberal media had brainwashed you into thinking its better

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:12

185. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@teller. I'm sure you also said that with the ip3gs, and the ip4, and now the ip4s. And it makes you android fanboys look dumb when proven wrong over and over again . And you guys never learned :)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:18 2

187. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@bob. And how did Apple lose their momentum? Do you have some sales figures of the ip4s already that no one has seen yet? How can you say that they lost their momentum when all blog sites are all about the ip4s? Count how many comments are posted on here versus the next article about an android device, lol. The ip4s is the most talked about device. It hasn't lost its momentum at all. It's actually gaining momentum. The more people look at what the ip4s can do, the more they're forgetting about those rumored expectations. And when reality sinks in, people would learn to accept what the ip4s really is and would realize that it's actually an awesome phone :)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:25

189. roldefol (Posts: 4362; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

That's just Fandroid hyperbole. Apple and the iPhone aren't going anywhere. If they don't change with the times though, they will stagnate.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:25

190. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@thump. Well based on the iphone's successful track record, and based on android fanboys' failed track record on iphone sales predictions. The ip4s will be another bestseller. We heard this same tune with the ip3gs. Android fanboys saying that the ip3gs will not sell because it's just another ip3g. But look at what happened. The ip3gs easily beat the competition and went on sale even now. Same thing will happen with the ip4s. It's not an iphone redesign, but a level up from the ip4, just like the ip3gs was with the ip3g. And of course, android fanboys will be proven wrong once again, but then they will come back SHAMELESSLY attacking Apple again and iphone users again. What a dumb group of fanboys :)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:41

195. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

how do you think the iPhone will be better? (legit question)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 13:58

202. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@rolde. The iphone did not stagnate. It leveled up from a single core to a dual core. What were you expecting? A quad core? Really? It also improved from a 5mp to an 8mp camera. It leveled up from 780p to full 1080p HD. It improved its camera sensor and added another lens. It increased its RAM from 512mb to 1gb. It improved its antenna. It integrated an AI assistant Siri. Is that what you call stagnant? I don't think so my friend.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:16

204. roldefol (Posts: 4362; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

When the iP4 came out, 1 Ghz processors were just coming on the market, few phones had a high-resolution screen, and the LTE network was still being constructed. That phone was at the head of the pack for smartphones and remained there for the better part of a year. I could name a half dozen Android phones with 1 Ghz dual cores, full HD recording, 1 GB RAM and 8 MP cameras on the market, and another half dozen coming before the end of 2011 with even better specs. They'll also have LTE. Apple will simply not be at the head of the pack with this product.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:19

205. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1500; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)

You maybe right since the resignation of Steve Jobs as CEO, the innovation has not been there. Pretty soon we are going to say: "The king is dead, long live the king." I will leave it to you all to guess the new king.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:29 1

208. joak (unregistered)

dude just make sure you watch the iphone 4s vs all other android phones on youtube...when they come out. after you watch those videos then you can talk.

To all you guys out there dont know which you prefer (ignore all that we have said) go to a verizon, att and sprint store and compare the iphone 4s to any other android phone for yourself and come to your own conclusion...which ever one you choose its cool

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 14:45

213. joak (unregistered)

dude that is one question i would like to know the answer too...how does a phone with lower specs compete with another phone with top of the line specs and actually beat it...i mean its like it should be illegal for the iphone to have the same specs as its android phone counterpart. I ask myself this question everytime an android phone comes out. There is no doubt that android has drastically grown over the years, there is no doubt that under the hood android phones have higher specs than the iphone, and its true that the galaxy s2 rocks...(like seriously, go check it out if you dont believe it) but nevertheless the iphone 4s will out perform the galaxy s2... (whether it would out sell the galaxy s2 or anyother latest android phone, i have no clue, actually with all this negativity against the iphone i doubt that it would), and like i said if you do not believe this you dont have to take my word for it...go and watch iphone 4s vs any other android phone videos that will most likely soon start pooping up on youtube in like the next couple of weeks

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 15:17 2

217. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)

umm.... apple's stock has fallen... and more people are going to android..so yeah, it HAS lost its momentum.
the more people look at the iP4S, they realise that android can already do that, and so much more.
People don't HAVE to learn it's an awesome phone, either it's awesome as soon as you see it (which the i4 was, but the i4S isn't) or it isn't( aka i4S)
don't worry though 530, next year you can finally enjoy android 2.0, i'm sure apple will steal more features.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 16:25

224. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@wassup. It was stated several times that the fall on Apple's stock was normal. You didn't read that part huh? Or are you playing blind perhaps :)

Not all of us share the same sentiments obviously. But there are plenty of people who do not favor android or who regretted getting an android device. As I have said, and also several articles. There were blown out expectations about the next iphone, and yes, that makes a lot of difference, and that affects ones impression when they expect something and get something else.

Apple stealing from android? Don't forget that the iphone came out in 2007, and android phones in 2008. Everything on your android device is taken from the iphone :)

Who's coming up with a Siri-like assistant in q1 of 2012 again? Oh yes, it's android :)

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 16:33

225. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)

@rold. Unlike Apple, android OEM's release new android devices every month. I guess they do that so they can be the first to release something ahead of Apple. But then which particular phone model sold the most? It's the ip4. 2nd place is the ip3gs. Great huh. Yes, you could probably name a dozen or more dual core android phones out there, but name one who gives the same performance, stability, consistency as the iphone. NONE. Better specs does not always equal better performance.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 17:05

228. roldefol (Posts: 4362; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)

Why do you (and Taco) keep bringing up the sales figure? There's only one phone iPhone 4S, one iPhone 4, one iPhone 3GS. There are HUNDREDS of Android phones, and that's the way we like it! Android phones are not and never will be about outselling the iPhone on an individual basis. They're about variety in power, pricing, shape and size - something for everyone.

No, better specs don't always equal better performance. What I'm saying is that in the coming weeks, there will be multiple Android phones that beat the iPhone's performance, something that wasn't true 2, 3, 4 years back. The market has changed, but Apple is acting like they still own it.

Stability may always be a selling point of the iPhone (Verizon even markets the iPhone's stability in their latest lit), but that doesn't make it the best for everyone.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 18:38

236. NVPMOTHAF (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)

actually if you must know wassup.......If you actually work for a carrier, there are more and more android users everyday that want to switch to iphone. In fact I haven't had anyone with an iphone want to switch to an android. Especially the ones that have came from androids to the iphone. I gues people that switch from droid's to iphones realize how unstable the androids are and don't want to download any third party apps to utilize all the features

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 19:36

238. yeah right (unregistered)

I have had android for a year and can't wait to go back to iphone. Can't wait. Android sux juevos.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 20:58

239. Paxmoos (unregistered)

Then you should be apologizing right now....No need to buy an Android...Stick with your iPhone.

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 21:51

241. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

um i never said anything about that.. please dont be ingnorant and pretend to make a battleā€¦

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 21:52

242. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)

yes but it isnt right now.. in the future i will switch to android if they actually do get as good of an app store

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 22:21

243. who-care (Posts: 8; Member since: 30 Sep 2011)

All glory to the hypno-droid

posted on 05 Oct 2011, 22:45

245. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)

yeah..we actually have a pretty good selection. there's very few instances where i see an interesting app available for the iPhone that isn't available for my Droid 3.

posted on 06 Oct 2011, 05:36 1

246. iggy (unregistered)

OK apple lover

posted on 06 Oct 2011, 07:25

247. joak (unregistered)

Lol...dude...your beyond help

posted on 06 Oct 2011, 20:14

252. cnwwyo (Posts: 126; Member since: 26 May 2011)

which are?

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