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Apple's charts compare its U.S. market share and global sales to Samsung's from 2004-2012

0. phoneArena 31 Jul 2012, 16:57 posted on

Thanks to the Apple-Samsung legal battle, we get to see some interesting prototype designs and internally generated statistics, like the chart Apple recently released for use against Samsung; the Korean manufacturer is appealing Judge Koh's injunction against the Samsung GALAXY Nexus...

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posted on 31 Jul 2012, 21:23 2

40. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


while your at it, you should convince Ford to sue all car makers for having similar design cues.. 4 tires.. a windshield.. steering wheel.

Its the same damn thing.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 20:07 1

31. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


???

I'm talking about how Apple is showing because of market share, they were harmed....

What are you going on about?

Stick to the article, thanks.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 18:58 4

15. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


I dont think Apple has had a bad, losing quarter financially since the iPhone launched....

How are they being harmed?

So....NOW Apple cares about market share again. It shifted away from that to profits when Android stated eating away at their market share.

The market share doesnt translate into them losing money financially tho. Didnt some analyst say Apple could be the first trillion dollar company?

So I ask....how is Apple being harmed by market share? Ppl that want an iPhone will get it. Ppl that dont, wont.

Doesnt Apple realize if Samsung was to drop off the face of the earth in the mobile market.....another manufacture would start to rise and probably replace them as the most popular Android phone?

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 19:17 1

18. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


jroc74,

I am not a lawyer but I had to sue someone in district court over a breach of contract. In my complaint, I had to outline how I was harmed; I had lost thousands of dollars due to the other party's non-performance.

If you didn't read Apple's complaint(s) filed [or like the rest of that read summaries of these compliant(s)], then you are clueless about the RULE OF LAW.

All you are doing is pontificating aloud over the internet on a website that is dominated by androrid fanboys that habitually conduct witchhunts on Apple on an ongoing basis.

While you are entitled to your opinion, you still need to get your FACTS straight, and in this case, an understanding of the RULE OF LAW.

Good luck.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 19:38 3

23. Pdubb (Posts: 248; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


"These are the per-unit royalties that Apple calculated for its different intellectual property rights-in-suit:

$2.02 for the "overscroll bounce" (or "rubber-banding") '318 patent

$3.10 for the "scrolling API" '915 patent

$2.02 for the "tap to zoom and navigate" '163 patent

$24 for use of any of Apple's design patents or trade dress rights"

From the article you pointed to in a previous post. After reading the article color me confused on the stance it takes. Rubber banding is a more important patent than 3g tech? I am not a fan of either company but these claims are foolish. The over scroll effect is what makes the iPhone an iPhone seems like total and utter BS.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 19:58 2

30. tedkord (Posts: 13501; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's ironic that you see Apple as the victim of witch hunts.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 20:08 2

33. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


If each iPhone has outsold the previous one...

Please explain how they were harmed? They made ....more money...with each new iPhone...

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 20:15 3

35. jroc74 (Posts: 6019; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Are they claiming that all the money Samsung made from their phones woulda went to Apple?

Thats a lil arrogant if you ask me. Did Apple consult a crystal ball or a psychic? How do they know if Samsung wasnt around....Motorola or HTC wouldnt have climbed that high?

Apple is claiming harm on hindsight I see.....

And last time I checked....its a FACT that each iPhone has outsold the previous one. That means they NEVER LOST MONEY with each new iPhone sold.... I would love to hear Apple explain in detail how they were harmed....

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 21:27 4

42. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i still wouldnt have bought iOS. I would probably have bought another HTC.
Apple is acting like they are the only game in town and all profits should be theirs and theirs alone.

The truth is, had another manufacturer become so dominant in Android.. say HTC or LG, they would be in court with this exact same lawsuit and exact same "proof". Samsung is only here because they are the dominant name in Android right now.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 20:20 4

36. Aeires (unregistered)


Ardent, stop being so self righteous. The simple truth of the matter is anyone can sue anyone else for any reason. Doesn't make it right, nor justifies much of anything. That's the simple facts about how the law works.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 21:25 3

41. remixfa (Posts: 14600; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


we have a broken patent system. Anyone can sue for anything. Being sued doesnt make you guilty, neither does losing automatically make you guilty. If that were true then there wouldnt be any prisoners on death row that were later proven innocent.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 20:28 3

37. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4731; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Your situation and the Apple/Samsung situation are two different matters.
In your situation you lost money because the other party didn't honor their end of the contract by performing a service for you.

In the Apple/Samsung situation. Apple is assuming that if Samsung wasn't using their "stolen" IP, that any consumers who bought a Samsung product would have absolutely bought an Apple product. Ignoring the fact that besides any other android OEMs, there was at the time Windows, RIM, Symbian, Meego, Bada, & WebOS to choose from. Apple has it in their head that the only choice is Apple, when it's not. I used to be an Apple fan, but after a sour experience with their support, I will not buy another of their products. So even if android as a whole was out of the picture, they still wouldn't have gotten my business. And I doubt I'm the only one.

Personally the problem here is not with Apple (though they are taking advantage of it) but with the patent system itself. What they are allowing in these patents is not the raw software code, but the action performed by the user and it's end result. Meaning if someone comes up with another way to get the same result, it wouldn't matter because it would fall under the other patent due to it's broad wording. In many cases there are only one way to implement certain features.

Finally, as I've said numerous times here on PA, if all they were going for was licensing their patents (receiving royalties) I'd have no problem with it. But so far all they have tried to do is ban their competition. When they were finally forced to go into discussions for licensing, they claim that appearance patents are worth $24 per phone, but patents that are vital to being ablet make a call are worth less than a dollar. How does that make sense? Without Samsung's 3G patent, the iPhone would be and iPod Touch.

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 21:22

39. kamejoko (Posts: 224; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)


Yes! because it's android.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 10:16

44. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


here is the case. iphone 2 edge 400mhz procc, samsung galaxy s has 3g 1ghz procc --> samsung has higher spec. iphone 3g 400/800 mhz (i forgot), samsung gs2 had 1.2ghz --> again, samsung gains a power over iphone. iphone 4 1ghz procc, samsung galaxy note has 1.4ghz dual core. iphone 4s has still only 1ghz dual core while samsung galaxy s3 has quad core!

consumers choose samsung for it's higher specs for the same price they choose iphone. that's why iphone gone low. iphone always left one step behind just like deff lepard.

logical that most people choose higher offer even it says unstable or something than the stable one but only with standards.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 21:38 1

46. SirCheese (Posts: 15; Member since: 28 Jul 2012)


It's only quad overseas, it's dual core in the US.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 22:55

47. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


ah, so iPhone loose from overseas instead?

And that's the reasons why, the people in US didn't know that Samsung Galaxy S III had revolutionary quad-core proccie.

I feel sorry for that feature missing in US.

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 12:06 1

45. soshi (Posts: 154; Member since: 08 Mar 2012)


samsung increasing market share is a prove? what the hell about their logic, there are many reason to make that happen: Android, technology, etc. Apple just trow everything to make excuse because cant accept reality. So childish

posted on 01 Aug 2012, 23:04

48. JunkCreek (Posts: 407; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


iPhone surely lost. When it's competitors (not jus Sammy) had 3G, iPhone still had EDGE instead. As the other guy had 800 MHz - 1 GHz speed, iPhone only offers 400 MHz. At the time iPhone intoduce it's 1 GHz speed, the rivals has already reach the two-headed "hydra-like" proccs. And again, iPhone introduce it's dual "heads" core procc, it simply swept away because the era has changed into quad "four-deadly-headed hydra" core procc.

So, it is logical that iPhone lost their market share in the worldwide. The world has expect to monsterous "four-deadly-headed hydra" quadcore procc while iPhone still offers only dualcore.

It is simply as is.

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