Apple's European filing against Samsung mentions similar complaint filed against the Motorola Xoom
0. phoneArena 10 Aug 2011, 14:12 posted on
Not to be satisfied until all Android tablets are barred from every store on Earth, Apple has seemingly also filed a complaint in Germany against the Motorola Xoom although the details of the complaint are not readily apparent...
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72. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If you think the Xoom looks like an iPad....
I will pray for you...seriously...
73. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
82. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
that's not actual size you dips&$%. the XOOM has an 16:9 screen ratio and the iPad has a 4:3 screen ratio. go look at one in real life and tell me they're the same.
94. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
I never said it was exactly the same just proportioned very similarly. Moto doesn't usually copy apple the dx photon bionic are all very original its just the xoom that they copied.
99. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
oh so Apple can sue Motorola for making a Tablet that's "proportioned" similarly? that makes sense.
107. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its all part of design. Its all can't add up.
115. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you're contradicting yourself guy. size is not design. it's size.
125. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
alright, explain to me what you're talking about then.
127. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its how the tablet is balanced in relationship to its body. The iPad has this boxed off rectangular shape that the xoom copies. While the transformer is more squared off. Also the lines of the xoom are similar
129. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
..what? are you kidding me? you think Motorola copied that from Apple huh?
133. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
If i was them i would of rounded off the edges on the screen slightly. If they made it very glossy and rounded off the edges it would of looked nice. Its the same form factor that apple uses so i presume they did.
136. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
you mean because the edges are as angular as those on the iPad? give it up guy, your comments are just Fanboy jokes to me now.
140. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Look at the edges of the screen on the flyer vs the iPad. You see how it is rounded and rectangular.
144. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i don't care. having similar edges aren't enough to sue for. perhaps you've forgotten the original topic.
146. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Its the combination of everything. The ui the edges the shape the form factor the way it proportioned and so on.
89. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
there's real life comparison.
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98. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Really because they don't. The Xoom have no button in the front and the Ipad do.
102. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Buttons don't make up a design. You can't just copy the iPad take away a button and say its different.
108. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
For it to be a copy....wouldnt it have to have that lil single button?
Where is all the HDTV, monitor lawsuits from the different companies?
I wouldnt even call the GS1 and 2 copies since they have a bigger home button and 2 on either side on some models.
The volume rockers are different on the GS phones and iPhone.
Even Touchwiz...the icons that have backgrounds has squarer corners, iOS has more rounded corners.
Yet its a copy...
So lets say Samsung and Moto made tablets like the ones you claim arent copies? Then what? Someone sues for silver borders and they have to redesign again? What if I want an all black Xoom? I cant get one cuz the iPad is all black? I have to bay a all black case?
Like someone said...thank God Apple doesnt make cars...
What you fail to realize what pisses ppl off with these bs lawsuits from Apple...
Motorola updated Blur and added resizable widgets. Samsung added resizable widgets to Touchwiz with an update.
Where is the Motorola lawsuit? When that lawsuit comes...then I will give Apple a pass on the Xoom.
114. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Now...going by your logic with the Playbook...since Touchwiz has more squarer icon backgrounds...its not a copy...right?
120. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
You can't compare a design of a tablet to the design of a interface. An interface isn't about shapes its about layout. Design is about tons of things including shape. Then again i said a thousand times color is generic it doesn't matter but you just ignore that so why do i bother anymore. Copying features such as the app store is ok you don't see apple suing android over the market. Its unavoidable. However copying design is another thing.
112. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
when it comes to a generic design like a black slab with a touch screen, yeah...you can.
122. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Great you admit its a copy and are ok with it. Thats interesting in itself.
126. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
i'm not saying it's necessarily a copy it's just similar design choice. it's not unheard of for a company to want their product to look as clean and simple as possible.
128. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
A similar design approach is fine. They can be minimalistic if they want. However they could of varied it more from the iPad.
130. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
..oh this'll be good. how could Motorola have "varied" the simplistic look from the iPad more than what they have already?
100. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
By the way the Transformer do look like an Ipad
104. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
No it doesnt!!! It has silver around the tablet!!!
105. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
By the way i love that blog. :) So many helpful tips i found on there.
And no it doesn't it way more squared off and proportioned much different. It also has more depth to it and it sides are different as well. COLOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Look at the playbook to prove that.
110. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
So ...one tablet is more squared off...one is more rounder...Its sides are different..
Going by your logic...for all tablets to be uique and not copies...some will have to start using indented corners..mushroom shaped corners, bread loaf shaped corners...
Look at the iPad and Playbook:
You can let the Playbook slide as not being a copy...but not the Xoom??? Seriously??
Trolling is fundamental huh...
121. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
Again you think i am mad about the fact it uses black. Again i am not mad about that. I have said that already and have given you criteria to base tablet design on. Color doesn't matter. Yet again you go on about color and its generic. I understand your wrong so you name call me a troll but yeah i think its kinda funny. TROLL!
161. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea...look at the pic I put up of the Playbook and iPad ....and dismiss it....yet call the Xoom a copy...
Didnt even mention color in that post...
Color is generic....so is round corners...
79. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
biophone, you right...cuz the front of the tablet makes up the entire tablet...
No one else can make a solid black tablet huh...
The omission of a hardware on the front of the tablet doesnt matter either huh.
Moto shoulda added a colorful edge to the tablet for it to not be copy huh...
147. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Hmm, now Apple are really making themselves look stupid.
The Xoom ???
That does not look anywhere near the iPad.
Total stupidity form Apple !
149. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
the UI is not like iOS. they have home screens and icons but that's it. tell me about an interface that doesn't have different screens and icons and your design argument is just ridiculous. you need to look back at these comments your posting and see how you getting off topic is making your original point look completely flawed.
150. biophone (Posts: 1909; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
To sum this up my first point was the xoom bares a lot of similarities to the iPad. I then backed it up with specific design points. Your argument is all tablets look the same. I disagree and think tablets can differ. Then a troll came along and just thought i think the xoom is similar to the iPad because it is black. I proved to him that wasn't my point. He didn't understand. No contradiction just a difference in tablet design opinions. Your entitled to what you think and so am I. But i don't see how it is flawed.
153. Thump3rDX17 (Posts: 2160; Member since: 10 May 2010)
your point is the tablets are similar because of edges and other bulls**t that doesn't even matter.
158. Crappy (unregistered)
Blood sucking money f**king steve jobs should be hanged to death along with his minions taco, biophone and the miz...
162. dude (unregistered)
All of you need to realize that AFTER Apple made the iPad EVERY company started making a tablet that looks like an iPad. If other companies weren't copying Apple then why didn't one of them start making a tablet before apple? when the iPhone came out not even 5 months after, other companies started making similar phones just because the iPhone was a success. I hate how people defend other companies that aren't even US companies, you people need to be proud that an American company is actually inventing the best and most innovative products out there, so if you don't support your own country then GTFO and go live in Korea where Samsung is or Taiwan where HTC is and quit being an ass. I love Apple and everything they've invented so far and may God Bless America.
172. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
It may appear that way but when a product comes to market first not always was it the first in development.
173. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
And BTW the tablet form was created by Microsoft as a writing pad/electronic file system for doctor's offices in the very early 90's. you know the year you were born dude
168. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
If Apple is so almighty awesome, have the brightest and best minds and are capapble of producing the best electronics in the world.
Why don't they just manufacture their own hardware, software, and not have to buy from Sammy, then sue Sammy because they look too much like Apple.
If you buy a display from another company for your phone or tablet, wouldn't their product which uses the same display need to have a similar shape. Let's just all use our heads here.
169. Boti95 (Posts: 162; Member since: 05 Sep 2010)
Wow. Some people are really stupid thinking Apple has the right to sue every phone company in this world. The Motorola XOOM doesnt look like the crappy iPad. It has a screen. Oh OK. Now they look similar. Apple is really stupid. No kidding.
177. Lwazi_N (Posts: 205; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
This is ridiculous. The Acer Iconia Tab and the Asus eee Pad series are next in line. Are not we supposed to choose tablets because they have the features we want? But Apple wants us to buy the iPad only because it will be the only tablet available on the market. But I will not bow to such.
Did Apple invent the tablet like they invented the touch screen? Lmao! Ok, for arguments sake, let's say they did- Charles Babbage should come back from the dead and just go for a motion that closes Apple down.
179. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This is for biophone and folks like him:
Apple needs to stop it...seriously...
180. jroc74 (Posts: 5960; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
This is just for kicks..... tablet from 17 YEARS AGO...lol
Apple needs to stop....and iFanboys need to do some research...