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Apple won't be the big 2012 growth winner, despite iPhone 5, neither will Android

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 14:28 posted on

Digitimes has done some research and has put together some numbers for what the market share could look like by the end of the year. Surprisingly, despite the iPhone 5, Apple won't be the big winner of 2012, and, at least based on growth rate, neither will Android...

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posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:19

44. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


100k of crapps. That's easy to achieve.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:20

45. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


WP innovative? MeeGo was innovative, WP is just old school black and white, size 45 text on a black background. Very innovative.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:39 1

47. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


I DONT THINK U HAVE A WP7 so if u dont you never tried any apps either so u are idiot who got big mouth but no brain

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:41 1

48. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


ow lets start about android homie its all copy of apple IOS interface icon grides what is new in that same left/right slide only some extra features u can play with rest is identically copy so yes WP is new moblie OS and u can deny it all u want it is fact MS went with its own new ideas while android is following ios at every step

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:43 1

49. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


man u live in stone age now a days it takes less then year to over throw any settled buisseness :P or atlest put enough dent in market

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 06:29

51. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


@Penny,

An advice from Dr. Sheldon:
Dear Penny,
don't comment on things you dont know.
First, yes indeed was a prediction but not a Statement like my fellow PA commenter , and second, Irony was being used in my prediction. Have a pleasent evening.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 14:33

53. smallworld (Posts: 494; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


You're dumb or you're an idiot ?

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 14:49 1

54. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)


No lag, a well built OS, Xbox live with a posible Halo game, Nokia maps, Native code (Windows NT kernel) with tons of windows apps and games coming in the near future, beautiful live tiles, deep skype integration. What else do you want????????????????????

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:33

55. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@aaronkatrini,

Lol, oh aaron, where ever shall I begin?

First, care to clarify what exactly it is that you think I do not know?

Second, you ended your "prediction" with "End of the story for 2012." That's a statement if ever I've seen one.

Third, your fellow PA commenter has justification for his statement; no clairvoyance is necessary to speak on the functionality of Windows Phone 8 when there are so many demos, leaks, and qualified breakdowns of the SDK available for all to see on the internet. In contrast, some clairvoyance may indeed be necessary to predict the trending popularity of each mobile operating system by years' end.

Finally, enjoy watching your astrophysicist actors on The Big Bang Theory. I'll continue to follow the work of real astrophysicists.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:51 1

56. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Let's not forget Microsoft Office 365 integration, all inclusive instant messenger (built in), contact list that is inclusive of social media features (built in), audio search + local search + visual search (all built in), SmartGlass (think WP8 + W8 Tablet + PC + XBOX all communicating with one another, and then add the next gen Kinect to the mix), NAVTEQ based mapping system with best in class traffic and offline maps, Enterprise features such as BitLocker full device encryption, corporate development and deployment of internal apps, a full Enterprise Hub that your company can set up, bluetooth file transfer (nothing special), NFC (best in class due to improvements in protocol), DirectX (allows for best gaming experience of any mobile platform), Nokia software optimization of camera processing (again, best in class), and last but not least, we have not yet seen the full extent of how integrated Microsoft's platform is becoming.

Yeah, and that's what I can think of off the top of my head, before the full list of features have even been announced.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:53 1

57. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Please refer to my comment #56. Not all of the features I listed are exclusive to Windows Phone 8, but those are areas where Windows Phone 8 exceeds the performance and/or capabilities of competing operating systems.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 01:21

58. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


Uhmmm... penny, where do i begin, oh i dont bother responding, you clearly wont agree with me. Lets wait for end of 2012 and see how it goes. Lets set a memo on the calendar and re-comment and see who was right. Are you with me? :)

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 01:32 1

59. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@aaronkatrini

I don't doubt the order of popularity at years end. Android will still be number 1, iOS will still be number 2, and WP will be somewhere behind that. What I do disagree with is your reasoning for why people will make those choices (namely "other fools will get WP"). Also, notice that I was speaking to market trends by years' end, not overall market share. I do believe WP8 has a strong chance in that regard.

Keep in mind, my response was never about you being right or wrong -- it was about you calling somebody else out on making an unknowable prediction when the one you made necessarily requires more knowledge of future conditions. At least for the other oracle we have here, his statement is predicated on knowledge he can gather from sources at this very moment.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 05:09

60. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


well if not you atlest 80% of android(tablet) users might transfer isince most like playing games with work and win8 is definetly the better choice at some price android guys can always say they can play temple run and they will say it for ever win8 tablet guys might even play games we play on PC like Crysis3 coming call of duty blackops2 coming soon wht more why stick with small games when we can do so much while we can also run full developer software suits on win8 tablets hmm lets see where android tabs stand now i think at the footsteps

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 11:20

62. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


You're just confirming what i said on a provocative way. Uhmmm.. do I need to appologise to someone, i dont get it!

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 06:49

63. Damien_666 (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)


Meanwhile, Google is working on Project Butter to make it as smooth as WP7.5!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:36 2

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


depends on what he is cussing about lol

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:41 3

5. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Good luck MS!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:30

9. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


they're gonna need it

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:33 3

10. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Agreed, I'd be nice to have a 3rd option and someone else to come up with ideas.
So just incase Win8 phones become popular, what are their fanboys called? Bingheads? Nothing sounds quite as fluid as iSheep or Fandroids...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:36

11. smdeezy (Posts: 66; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)


Bingheads...Haha I like it.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:17 1

26. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Winners, of course.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 23:08 1

33. an4564 (Posts: 39; Member since: 17 Jul 2012)


Winboys? best i can think og haha

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:52 3

6. Penny (Posts: 1662; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


It's not really a stretch to guess that WP will have the highest gains in terms of percentage this year. What really matters in my opinion is how well or poorly the actual Windows 8 operating system will do when it comes out this year. If the full OS takes off, then I think the mobile platform is really going to take off as well.

I believe the outlook for the rest of the mobile industry in 2013 really hinges on Windows 8 right now, because it has the potential to be the major story of the year, or it could fall by the wayside and just become a forgotten subject after some months (although unlikely considering the changes Microsoft is going to be making across its entire product line).

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:11 1

7. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


not sure if i must thumb you up or down

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:23

46. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 174; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Windows 8 will be Vista reincarnated. Windows 9 will be 7 reincarnated. You know how MS rolls, don't you? ;)

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:18 2

19. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


For me trend and market share is more impt than YoY growth.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:46

50. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


Damn ur buisseness guy :\

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:21 1

27. plgladio (Posts: 314; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


MS: DigiTimes(DT) publish something favour to us.
DT: What is our profit on it.
MS: Will give you 20 WP.
DT: Job done.
MS: Happily thinking people will buy WP,
Android/Apple users: We love our OS, go to hell MS..

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 11:14

52. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Duuuumb comment.

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