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Apple won't be the big 2012 growth winner, despite iPhone 5, neither will Android

0. phoneArena 24 Aug 2012, 14:28 posted on

Digitimes has done some research and has put together some numbers for what the market share could look like by the end of the year. Surprisingly, despite the iPhone 5, Apple won't be the big winner of 2012, and, at least based on growth rate, neither will Android...

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posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:33 12

1. smallworld (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Buuuuulllllshiiiiit.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:34 19

2. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


What? did you even read the article properly??
read it before commenting like this.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:17 12

8. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


WP went from 0.2% to 1%. On the news: OMG Windows Phone sales grow by 500%!!!
Apple went from 34% to 35.5%. On the news. Apple loosing momentum.
Android goes from 58% to 59%: On the news Android grow not as strong as M$.
AHHHH! People will choose Android as primary choise (for obvious reasons), iSheeps will get their share, other fools will get WP! End of the story for 2012.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:46 13

12. NokiaDrew (Posts: 2; Member since: 24 Aug 2012)


I think you are talking out of your A$$ right now.

Android is a very cool but fragmented and highly unstable platform.

Blackberry is in freefall because the old men running the company could not foresee the future because they are blind without their bifocals.

Fanboys only buy Apple because they are weak willed mindless sheep who prefer to be lead than to think for themselves

Windows Phone is a VERY viable option as Windows 8/WP8 will bring functionality that no other platform currently provides!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:49 7

13. sats.mine2k4 (banned) (Posts: 208; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)


"WP8 has functionality which no other platform has" like treating every available wp7.5/7 device available like a POS... If it has anything else please let us know...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:50 8

14. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


ok nokia guy!
i was just going to thumb you up, But, i changed my mind when you quoted wp8! why dont you just SHUT THE f UP! YOU HAVENT SEEN WP8 AND SERTANTLY YOURE NOT AN ORACLE. good night

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 02:59 2

41. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@aaronkatrini

Wait, weren't you the oracle that predicted mobile market share breakdown for the rest of 2012 in comment #8? Have you seen the rest of 2012? Are you in fact an oracle?

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 06:29

51. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


@Penny,

An advice from Dr. Sheldon:
Dear Penny,
don't comment on things you dont know.
First, yes indeed was a prediction but not a Statement like my fellow PA commenter , and second, Irony was being used in my prediction. Have a pleasent evening.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:33

55. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@aaronkatrini,

Lol, oh aaron, where ever shall I begin?

First, care to clarify what exactly it is that you think I do not know?

Second, you ended your "prediction" with "End of the story for 2012." That's a statement if ever I've seen one.

Third, your fellow PA commenter has justification for his statement; no clairvoyance is necessary to speak on the functionality of Windows Phone 8 when there are so many demos, leaks, and qualified breakdowns of the SDK available for all to see on the internet. In contrast, some clairvoyance may indeed be necessary to predict the trending popularity of each mobile operating system by years' end.

Finally, enjoy watching your astrophysicist actors on The Big Bang Theory. I'll continue to follow the work of real astrophysicists.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 01:21

58. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


Uhmmm... penny, where do i begin, oh i dont bother responding, you clearly wont agree with me. Lets wait for end of 2012 and see how it goes. Lets set a memo on the calendar and re-comment and see who was right. Are you with me? :)

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 01:32 1

59. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@aaronkatrini

I don't doubt the order of popularity at years end. Android will still be number 1, iOS will still be number 2, and WP will be somewhere behind that. What I do disagree with is your reasoning for why people will make those choices (namely "other fools will get WP"). Also, notice that I was speaking to market trends by years' end, not overall market share. I do believe WP8 has a strong chance in that regard.

Keep in mind, my response was never about you being right or wrong -- it was about you calling somebody else out on making an unknowable prediction when the one you made necessarily requires more knowledge of future conditions. At least for the other oracle we have here, his statement is predicated on knowledge he can gather from sources at this very moment.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 11:20

62. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


You're just confirming what i said on a provocative way. Uhmmm.. do I need to appologise to someone, i dont get it!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:13 8

16. smallworld (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Android 4.1 has more functionalities than WP10. End of.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:26 7

20. Commentator (Posts: 2402; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


What's WP10?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:34 6

21. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its windows phone.. in oh.. probably 2014/2015.. gaaawd didnt you know that? :)

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:49

24. Commentator (Posts: 2402; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Oooooh, I get it, it was like a joke or something! Ha! What wit...

Anyways, I'm sure whatever is launched in 2014/2015 will not be compatible with current WP hardware, as Microsoft seems to enjoy making a fresh start with their mobile iterations rather than make them upgrade-able, as of late. Also, I highly doubt that it will have less features than JB, but one can hope, I guess (although I don't know why one would wish ill on a mobile-OS, it seems kind of counter-competitive...)

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 14:33

53. smallworld (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


You're dumb or you're an idiot ?

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 03:01 2

42. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@smallworld

Prove it.

I'm sorry, what was that? I can't hear you when you're mumbling like that.

posted on 27 Aug 2012, 06:49

63. Damien_666 (Posts: 37; Member since: 16 Oct 2011)


Meanwhile, Google is working on Project Butter to make it as smooth as WP7.5!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:17 5

17. lyndon420 (Posts: 1735; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


What kind of new functionality are you referring to? What will microsoft bring to the table that could possibly make me leave Android?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:12 1

25. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


potato?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:16

29. lyndon420 (Posts: 1735; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Uhmmm...no. I like potatoes, but no.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 14:49 1

54. Mobile-X-Pert (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Dec 2010)


No lag, a well built OS, Xbox live with a posible Halo game, Nokia maps, Native code (Windows NT kernel) with tons of windows apps and games coming in the near future, beautiful live tiles, deep skype integration. What else do you want????????????????????

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:51 1

56. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Let's not forget Microsoft Office 365 integration, all inclusive instant messenger (built in), contact list that is inclusive of social media features (built in), audio search + local search + visual search (all built in), SmartGlass (think WP8 + W8 Tablet + PC + XBOX all communicating with one another, and then add the next gen Kinect to the mix), NAVTEQ based mapping system with best in class traffic and offline maps, Enterprise features such as BitLocker full device encryption, corporate development and deployment of internal apps, a full Enterprise Hub that your company can set up, bluetooth file transfer (nothing special), NFC (best in class due to improvements in protocol), DirectX (allows for best gaming experience of any mobile platform), Nokia software optimization of camera processing (again, best in class), and last but not least, we have not yet seen the full extent of how integrated Microsoft's platform is becoming.

Yeah, and that's what I can think of off the top of my head, before the full list of features have even been announced.

posted on 26 Aug 2012, 05:09

60. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


well if not you atlest 80% of android(tablet) users might transfer isince most like playing games with work and win8 is definetly the better choice at some price android guys can always say they can play temple run and they will say it for ever win8 tablet guys might even play games we play on PC like Crysis3 coming call of duty blackops2 coming soon wht more why stick with small games when we can do so much while we can also run full developer software suits on win8 tablets hmm lets see where android tabs stand now i think at the footsteps

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:17

18. master0fursinz (Posts: 104; Member since: 26 Apr 2010)


there goes the fragmented word again... its not fragmented just unique ok...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:34 3

22. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


talk about.. talking out of your arse. next time try sticking to facts, not long outdated fanboy bullet points and name calling.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 03:04 1

43. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


@remixfa

Thanks for telling that fanboy off. Now what do you plan to do about the 20 name calling Android fanboys to every 1 WP fanboy?

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 22:21 1

31. BuckeyeCadet86 (Posts: 68; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Seriously how bad is the fragmentation on android, yeah they make cool little charts that show the different releases but what is the functional difference to the vast majority of customers? its negligible, the problem with windows phone is app selection... I can run temple run on any device running 2.1 or higher but I can't run it on a single windows phone device. I get that its just a game but is indicative of the problem with other utilities and apps.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:23 2

37. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


ok Fragmentation start from Buying a SGS3 cool then check out low end android phone horrible crap lagg .. more issues then advantages

lets talk about WP in comparission

buy Flagship lumia900 good then buy lumia 600 works lagg free with application limitations only

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:24 1

38. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


and yes noobs always brag about Temple Run a guy who cant run out of a temple :\ man grow up or get updated their are more games to play then temple run

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:27 1

39. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


and last thing it takes some years to creat apps from new OS and wp7 had only a year to comeout and it reached 100k apps and more in one year i think android took 2 years to reach it be realistic and resonable its not istant job of creating apps each apps takes weeks or months

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:19

44. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


100k of crapps. That's easy to achieve.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:39 1

47. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


I DONT THINK U HAVE A WP7 so if u dont you never tried any apps either so u are idiot who got big mouth but no brain

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 23:18 1

34. MeoCao (unregistered)


Can you elaborate what WP8 can do and others don't?

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 17:53 1

57. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Please refer to my comment #56. Not all of the features I listed are exclusive to Windows Phone 8, but those are areas where Windows Phone 8 exceeds the performance and/or capabilities of competing operating systems.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:19 2

36. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


WP8 is option for those who think out of box and innovative design and interface

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:20

45. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


WP innovative? MeeGo was innovative, WP is just old school black and white, size 45 text on a black background. Very innovative.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:41 1

48. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


ow lets start about android homie its all copy of apple IOS interface icon grides what is new in that same left/right slide only some extra features u can play with rest is identically copy so yes WP is new moblie OS and u can deny it all u want it is fact MS went with its own new ideas while android is following ios at every step

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:24 1

28. sithman (banned) (Posts: 299; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


If apples users r ish**p then r googles sh**pdroids? Just asking.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 18:50 1

30. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


shhhtt! its true, but lets hope they wont read this comment ;)

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 01:12

35. MeoCao (unregistered)


I like your rant

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:11 1

15. smallworld (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


It will take 5 years for WP to come close to Blackberry so let alone Android an iOs.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:43 1

49. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


man u live in stone age now a days it takes less then year to over throw any settled buisseness :P or atlest put enough dent in market

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:38 3

23. jroc74 (Posts: 4728; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly. The article is about growth. Android wont ever see what they experienced in 2010. Apple is probably peaked, Android too.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:39 1

4. MartyK (Posts: 711; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


hahaha

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:36 2

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


depends on what he is cussing about lol

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:41 3

5. mas11 (Posts: 1028; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


Good luck MS!

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:30

9. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)


they're gonna need it

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:33 3

10. nak1017 (Posts: 328; Member since: 08 Jan 2010)


Agreed, I'd be nice to have a 3rd option and someone else to come up with ideas.
So just incase Win8 phones become popular, what are their fanboys called? Bingheads? Nothing sounds quite as fluid as iSheep or Fandroids...

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:36

11. smdeezy (Posts: 66; Member since: 17 Jun 2011)


Bingheads...Haha I like it.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:17 1

26. -box- (Posts: 3786; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


Winners, of course.

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 23:08 1

33. an4564 (Posts: 39; Member since: 17 Jul 2012)


Winboys? best i can think og haha

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 14:52 3

6. Penny (Posts: 1143; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


It's not really a stretch to guess that WP will have the highest gains in terms of percentage this year. What really matters in my opinion is how well or poorly the actual Windows 8 operating system will do when it comes out this year. If the full OS takes off, then I think the mobile platform is really going to take off as well.

I believe the outlook for the rest of the mobile industry in 2013 really hinges on Windows 8 right now, because it has the potential to be the major story of the year, or it could fall by the wayside and just become a forgotten subject after some months (although unlikely considering the changes Microsoft is going to be making across its entire product line).

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 15:11 1

7. aaronkatrini (Posts: 237; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)


not sure if i must thumb you up or down

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 04:23

46. picka_vi_materina (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


Windows 8 will be Vista reincarnated. Windows 9 will be 7 reincarnated. You know how MS rolls, don't you? ;)

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 16:18 2

19. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


For me trend and market share is more impt than YoY growth.

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 05:46

50. haseebzahid (Posts: 1826; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


Damn ur buisseness guy :\

posted on 24 Aug 2012, 17:21 1

27. plgladio (Posts: 311; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


MS: DigiTimes(DT) publish something favour to us.
DT: What is our profit on it.
MS: Will give you 20 WP.
DT: Job done.
MS: Happily thinking people will buy WP,
Android/Apple users: We love our OS, go to hell MS..

posted on 25 Aug 2012, 11:14

52. Henrik (Posts: 141; Member since: 18 Feb 2012)


Duuuumb comment.

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