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Apple won its Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 European ban based on a design sketch filed in 2004

0. phoneArena 12 Aug 2011, 14:06 posted on

Apple is using a broken EU Community Design system, basing its motion on a sketch filed in 2004, six years before Apple's first tablet saw the light of day. As per German law, the court has to grant the injunction if the design has been granted and paid for...

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posted on 13 Aug 2011, 10:29 2

133. ilia1986 (unregistered)


lol - you really think that people are going to be that dumb to believe that it's really the original Sniggly, you lifeless idiot?

Can't wait for PA staff to ban your stupid ass..

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 11:06

137. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Let's see how it goes indeed. Just reported your above post to PA.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 11:15

138. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)


"phonearena! This dude is copying this other dude! Ban him! Ban him now!!" and you probably sounded twice as stupid as this. And if it makes you feel any better, I reported your nasty comment as well. Race to who gets banned first. Good luck!

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 11:45 1

141. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Sure...

For everyone else: The real Sniggly is on post 109 on this thread\page:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-won-its-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-10.1-European-ban-based-on-a-design-sketch-filed-in-2004_id21172/comments/page/3

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:07

146. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)


I find it funny you are taking more offense to this than the actual Sniggly, lol. Is there a reason you care so much? Maybe this is Sniggly's third profile?

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:33 4

150. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Maybe they care because I treat them all with the respect they've earned by being nice folks, and they don't like that you're trying to piss on my name just because you don't like the things I have to say.

I still don't really care. I find it perversely amusing. But I'm very humbled and appreciative that they would take time and energy to stand up for me against you.

Despite the ultimate triviality of the situation, you guys are all awesome. My hat's off to you all. :)

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 15:45 3

163. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

Taco probably has your original profile pic up on his wall.. watch out for the stains though, sniggs.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:18

147. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


I just reported him as well.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:43

152. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)


I really would love to see what you people are saying when you report me, lol. You guys must sound like idiots.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:51 4

154. Sniggly (Posts: 6698; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Impersonation of another user in order to confuse users, slander the user in question, and disrupt a thread doesn't really sound all that stupid to me.

You're actually lucky I find this amusing, because I'm pretty sure I could get you banned if I wanted to.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 13:00 2

157. SniggIy (banned) (Posts: 34; Member since: 13 Aug 2011)


Nah, I'm sure phone arena loves all these comments, lol. Really, I would love if you tried to get me banned. All those things you just listed was a little silly to say the least. You and taco disrupt these threads more than anyone with your cell phone wars.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 15:34 3

161. zuno gyakusatsu (Posts: 257; Member since: 16 Mar 2010)


i much prefer the "fake" sniggly to the real one. can we just ban the original one? i can do without his holier than thou attitude all the time.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 15:47 5

164. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


real sniggly - intelligent debater
fake sniggly - taco in a sniggs suit being dumber than normal.


I'll take the real sniggs. Lets just ban taco's IP all together and that will keep the boards much quieter.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 17:58 3

168. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Damn straight. Regardless of whether you're an Android hater or lover - one gotta admire Sniggly's (the real one's) intelligence and overall tolerance and patience when dealing with utter imbeciles like Taco and Miz..

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:31 7

8. Gsmalltheway (Posts: 139; Member since: 15 Aug 2009)


This is rediculous. Apple came up with a tablet design that was rectangular, so what all other manufactures cant make rectangular tablets?

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:36 4

12. jcoberg10 (Posts: 110; Member since: 30 Oct 2009)


Triangle tablets will be awesome!!!

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:39 5

14. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Personally, I'm waiting for someone to come out with the more elegant oval design.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:32 1

9. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Shamsung you got what you deserve.... Apple si setting an example for al copycats... hated or love it.. next time when a customer or client gives you a design.. for you to supply... dont go behind their back and create another product based on what you know.. shame on you Shamsung... now consumers will pay for your atrocity...

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:47 3

19. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


ummm I now declare you banned.

I submitted and paid for a picture of a rooster to be added to Community Design.

The EU will now send NATO to give you what you deserve.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:54 1

25. gallitoking (Posts: 4682; Member since: 17 May 2011)


well good luck with that... mind if I have grankids while I wait?... jk... dandirk... good response.. made me laugh.actually..

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 11:49

143. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


how old are...it samsung not shamsung...its obviously not a mistake as you said it twice...lol with apple being so secretive i doubt they showed samsung the ipad 2...if they had why would samsung create a ''fat'' tab and then release a thin tab

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:56 3

26. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


wow.. proving to be a bigger iDiot than normal. Apple wasnt having anything manufactured in 2004. They were just drawing designs. Who knows.. that "tablet" could be 5 inches, not the 10 inch one they have now... or it could have been a design for a wider screened iphone. Where is the proof that its even a tablet?

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:32 4

10. Stuntman (Posts: 710; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)


This just in -- Apple is going to file an injunction to prevent manufacturers of chopping boards from selling their product in the EU because they look like these drawings. Word is that they are going after companies that make tupperware containers as well because the lids look like these drawing. Those rectangular tupperware container lids will be banned, but the square ones are OK. You can still buy rectangular tupperware, but they will not come with lids.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:35 5

11. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)


This really is super apple plus ridiculous...
Anybody got that joke... ?

This really is not good at all.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:37 2

13. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


Apple : Does not play nicely with others.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:41 2

16. gaylep (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)


I think that the iPad looks like a giant icecream sandwich, but less delicious. Icecream sandwich manufacturers everywhere, unite against these copycats.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:52

23. Deluxe (unregistered)


Yes! sue apple for millions and try to ban them from selling ipods. At lest in the usa :D

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:45 1

17. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


The EU laws are insane! Once Apple starts winning with these drawings... its going to escalate where like apple/MS companies are going to enter as many drawings as possible to hopefully block competitors.

While i think, the law is the law and its not Apple's fault they are using it.

This is such a system where its down-right abusive, even more so then the US patent system.

You would think there would be some decency in business where they wouldn't sink to this level.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:47 1

18. AppleFUD (unregistered)


The original article on OSNews is a great article that everyone should read.

Any apple fan that can still say apple is "defending their IP" with this behavior is clearly delusional. . . this is nothing more than anti-competitive behavior at it's best.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 19:08

78. box (unregistered)


That is good reading. I like the Knight Ridder tablet example that Samsung gave in the Netherlands trial

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:48

20. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


Why would they call it "Community Design"???

They should call it "Me Only Design... EVER!"

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 14:50 4

21. Deluxe (unregistered)


This is no different than a little kid drawing something and then getting mad at another little kid that copies off the shape of what he has drawn to make something different and demands the other is not to do that. This is childish nonsense from apple and they will not get any money from me if they try to beat the competition with such underhanded and low down tactics as this.

What will i do if dumb lawsuits from apple kills off any real android competition? Easy, i get a windows phone 7 phone, or have a blackberry if i have to in order to have a non apple smartphone.

Apple my htc inspire with gingerbread is better than your iphone 4 imo and it will probably be even better when ice cream sandwich comes along.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:03

28. Penny (Posts: 1109; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


This isn't funny anymore. I hope several large companies work together to get a higher authority to investigate the EU's practices and demand an overhaul of their system and personnel. Maybe that would get the people running the EU up off their asses.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:09 1

31. Penny (Posts: 1109; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Also, it's easy to blame this on Apple. Don't. Reprimanding Apple for doing something they were legally able to do won't solve anything. Blame the EU. It is the part of the system that is broken, and as with any mechanical object, you either fix or replace the broken part, but you don't allow it to damage the rest of the system.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 11:54

144. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


you know what i actually agree we should be blaming the ridiculous eu and this so obvious broken system, whether apple is right or wrong for exploiting? hopefully all this will bring the problems to the front for reform

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:08 1

29. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Wow i cant believe what i just read...this has to stop

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:09 1

30. ghost_uwi (Posts: 47; Member since: 05 Nov 2010)


dude I am so going to patent every doodle I do and sue everyone in the future :D

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:39 1

33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I'm enjoying watching this play out. Apple is tightening a stranglehold on the mobile industry. Between record sales numbers, expansion in China, ridiculous revenue and now justly using the legal system to block these copycat products Apple will slowly choke the life out of android.


Apple was already handing android it's ass in revenue and profit. Time to put android out of it's misery and go for the headshot (marketshare).

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:43 3

35. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


And that would make your life complete, wouldnt it?

iFans are TRULY something special...

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:50

41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I'll enjoying watching you fandroids in your final death struggles screaming about how android is better and "innovative". I'm sure you'll hop the bandwagon soon to Windows 7 or whatever else comes out. As long as it's not Apple right?

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:09 6

43. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)


like ive said plenty of times before, is apple giving you anything for you to be so much up their ass, are they giving you money, a job, a leaked iphone 5, steve jobs d**k mold so you can stick it up your ass? i dont understand your devotion to a PHONE!

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:19 1

48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


How do you explain your devotion to android then loser. Or the fact you follow Apple articles around just to bash them. I'd rather enjoy a product and follow it then to hate a product for no reason and expend energy hating on the product.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:33 5

52. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)


Before you start calling people names here buddy for someone thats replying to every comment made you seem like a fat looser who needs to go out with your friends and drink a beer or two. Anyway, tell me one thing the iphone and the ipad can do that some other device cant do why you're praising it and calling ppl names. My hd7 when it gets mango will be able to do more than ios 5 and even ios 5 stole most of its features from all other platforms.....i have all major systems at my disposal and right now, only due to a lack of apps on android (which wp7 will take care of soon), android is a better platform and less restricted..you have to jailbreak to do what you really want. Now before you go quoting sales and other **** really think about it.....WHAT CAN THE IPHONE AND IPAD DO THAT OTHER DEVICES CANT DO. Btw HTC was builing smartphones and tablets 13 years before the iphone came out...whats apple's point in suing them??

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:41

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Mango isn't even out yet. Keep hoping something better will come along though.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:54 2

59. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)


thats why he said when his hd7 gets it!

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:59 1

61. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)


actually sorry my hd2 running wp7 mango is off the meanrack and over at xda they hardspl'ed the hd7 and there are custom roms running mango for you to download, but you wouldnt know anything about that, because in your eyes theres only one. wait look what just came across my twitterhttp://www.wpcentral.com/breaking-official-mango-7720-release-leaked-xda?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter. yea see yea, imma go flash this and go drink couple of beers with my peeps, im out.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:49 1

58. rican (Posts: 132; Member since: 02 Jul 2011)


first off i like android because its best suited for me, in the process of learning how to build roms with my linux computer.

secondly you can go through all my comments ive never said anything negative about apple

What im talking about is you defend apple like if they do s**t for you.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 12:06 1

145. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


taco you obviously love apple and there products work for YOU...why cant you just be happy that others will like other OS'S such as android,bb,wp7,webos etc dont you want people to have choices and do you really want a world where everything is apple only...i sure dont i like my choices...i have both the iphone 4 and galaxy s2 and i like both devices for different reasons and im only saying this before you call me a fandroid...just cause i have an apple or android product does not mean i need to be a fan of a company...end of the day i doubt they give a toss about us but only care for money...but i have not been blinded by fanboyism to see that whether its apple or samsung or any other company that its ridiculous to get such a generic COMMUNITY patent and sue...what does community actually mean

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 17:25

68. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"you fandroids"..

Yea....iFans are TRULY something special..

I suggest you check my post history....if thats too much for you, I understand...iFans live in a very, very limited bubble.

You know what...I hope there is only one smartphone and tablet. That way I can tell without a doubt who the sheep are.

Never went there before with sheep...might as well stoop to your level.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:28

50. Deluxe (unregistered)


The final death struggles will come from apple if legal systems act as they should and tell apple to shut up and beat android by making a better product.

As long as apple are acting as they are even resorting to childishness like this to try to beat android they will remain a company that makes good products but have such horrendous business ethics people should never buy from them. The millions+ of people that seem to "worship" them is why they are in business.

You beat competition by making a better product for less money or the same amount. Also if one is going to charge more they need to make sure what they have made is so much better than the competition that it is worth a higher price. You DON'T try to win by taking the competitors to court for ridiculous reasons. At lest, this seems like correct competing with others to me.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:32

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Acting childish? This is a business not high school. Apple is acting like a business that's protecting their designs and IP.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:38 3

54. Deluxe (unregistered)


Yeah which is why Apple shouldn't be taking a competitor to court over artwork that was done 6 years before the first ipad came out and asking for their product to be banned. EU shouldn't allow artwork to be patented. They need a legal system renovation so such things can't happen.

Here's for hoping for a samsung victory in the appeal on the 25th. :D

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:40

55. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


So that means Apple had the design back in 2004 and then Samsung saw the first iPad and came out with a product that looks just like it. Seems like obvious copying to me.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 17:26 5

69. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Lets see those sketches hold up in U.S. courts...

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 17:56 3

73. Deluxe (unregistered)


No they didn't copy the ipad design. It is a different shape and the honeycomb os is very much different. It is just silly for apple to be able to ask for something to be banned because of its shape. I've used demos of both.

Apple however, does copy others and there is no doubt about that (android notifications).

Your clearly so supportive of apple that is doesn't matter what they do your going to support them.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 16:34

53. gwhyte01 (Posts: 44; Member since: 09 Jul 2008)


They dont have anyting to bring to the table, if they change the iphone they have to change everything else including osx..

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 22:30 2

94. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Taco, if you havent noticed.. and i know you havent.. even iFans are taking note of apple's behavior. Apple may win short term victories but they are turning all but their most diehard fans against them one by one as they hear about the Apple legal drama.

In the end, apple is helping seal its fate and growing Android. Most people turn from evil controlling dictators when they become obvious. Maybe you have a picture of Gurerra, Chavez, and Mao ZeDong on your walls, but most dont.

posted on 13 Aug 2011, 10:58

136. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


They better tread carefully! What happen if there are no other tablets on the market? Would they then be subject to anit-trust? I think it becomes a slippery slope when you start pushing others out of the market. They already have a majority of the market and if it gets bigger I see them being in the same predicament MS was with the EU with IE.

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:39

34. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Welp.....time for me to get to drawing and submitting all kinds of stuff to the EU...

Didnt some folks on here say sketches are only concepts and dont count...according to the EU they do.

If only folks from years ago woulda thought to submit sketches to the EU waay back when...

If anything...give Apple credit for looking into the future. Now folks are gonna be copying the idea to submit sketches to the EU. I can hear the copycat cries now...

I love America...

posted on 12 Aug 2011, 15:47

37. Jasonhunterx (Posts: 110; Member since: 20 Jul 2011)


I hate how the design of apple products are so generic then they sew for another company making a genric looking phone or tablet

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