Apple will be asking Judge Koh for tripling Samsung's fine to over $3 billion this Friday
0. phoneArena 19 Sep 2012, 08:56 posted on
This is allowed if a "willful infringement" is found, and the judge can easily triple the damages awarded to Apple, although it is debatable whether she will do so...
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2. sadaivadai (Posts: 156; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Breaking news : Apple has shifted their head quarters to district court of US ... gonna stop producing iproducts continuing with SUING as their only business and has appointed Judge Lucy Koh as their new CEO ...
62. Volcomguy51 (Posts: 18; Member since: 23 Jan 2011)
Doesn't Apple have enough money already? They're expected to sell over 5 million iPhones this weekend. They should be a political party. Democrat, Republican...Apple. Apple, we want your money and hate.
3. Rager099 (Posts: 29; Member since: 06 Apr 2009)
If apple does not like the heat get out the kitchen. Suing the competition will not keep you cool for long...
4. Aeires (unregistered)
Completely not surprised, this falls directly in line with Apple's new legal philosophy. Apple, the nerd that became the new bully.
73. Jelly_Bean (Posts: 109; Member since: 11 Sep 2012)
and shove something in your Candy A$$. just completed this for you brother :)
7. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1486; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
Time to re program a tomahawk missile to the infinite loop
9. evil_slayer (Posts: 50; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
10. jrandolf (Posts: 22; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
revive bin laden then attack all the apple stores . :P
43. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1131; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Are you freaking kidding me? It's business. Why are ya'll taking this so serious. Apple and Samsung don't care about any of us and only want our money too. Stop defending them like they're your mother.
45. jrandolf (Posts: 22; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
and why are you taking this seriously thou ? because you care to these companies ? :P
11. Android4u (Posts: 456; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)
apple.....the only American company i can officially say I despise..
69. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1705; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
The only thing American about them is their greed.
72. dsDoan (Posts: 226; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)
What do you mean? Apple products are manufactured overseas using foreign designed and manufactured parts, and their cash is stored overseas to avoid taxes.
How is that not American?
16. Shino (banned) (Posts: 196; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
Bhehe! Oups, a daisy! Pardon, oups a samsung! :) I keep my fingers crossed for Apple to succeed! Every thief deserves the asian manufacurer's destiny. One billion was really too small fine for this, anyway.
25. hung2900 (Posts: 891; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
"Good artists copy, great artists steal"
OMFG, who is the true thief here? And stealing what? Rounded retangular or GUI of Xerox?
26. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
watch your words, apple have never had an original idea. all copied from other sources so the biggest thief is apple. and when there delusion bubble pops i hope other companys start playing apple at its own game
66. dragonstkdgirl (Posts: 144; Member since: 07 Apr 2012)
Anyone else notice Apple's "new Do Not Disturb" feature? Hmm.... smells like Motorola's SmartActions to me. And I actually use this particular smart action.
Pot, meet kettle.
65. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
Samsung makes the dang UI for apple that's something they don't tell the APPLE FANS!!! stupid
17. krypticsoul (Posts: 11; Member since: 18 Dec 2009)
Apple is scared now with their outdated OS...basically getting 'boring'. Samsung is way ahead of them. Apple should just go into the Sewing business, so they sue all day long...aaheoaheaohaoehoaheoahe. :)
19. jrandolf (Posts: 22; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
when steve jobs died . apple only does is suing samsung for their nonsense accusation.
20. raphael007 (Posts: 43; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
I can officially say that the iPhone id not reslly selling so they want to compensate for this loss ........
53. OnlyiPhone (unregistered)
@raphael007 what are you smoking they just sold 2 million preorders for the iPhone 5 and are probably about to sell also 10 million launch weekend if they can keep up with demand. That was the dumbest thing you could say they are not selling.
85. Jillxz (Posts: 148; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
No , they sue because they fear Android. Apple is a very poor competitor. Sore loser I would say.
86. Jillxz (Posts: 148; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
We don't have real justice in our courts anymore. it's all favoritism.
23. androidornothing (Posts: 143; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Apple can suck ****. I have an iPad but this is ridiculous I'm starting to hate apple everyday!!!!! Samsung FTW!!!!!!!
27. ekia007 (Posts: 61; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
You greedy s**t Apple and Apple lawyers. Why Samsung should pull galaxy line? If that happened, it is so obvious that Apple bribed Judge Koh.
30. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Samsung sucks !! Hate fu***** copycats !! Shameless copycat company !!
33. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
you must hate apple too then....they copied pretty much there whole phone.
this is apples greed and thinking they are bulletproof.....i hope someone brings them back to earth with a crash.
61. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
what the hell are you talking men ? Apple did copy from whome ? SMASUNG ? Or android ? U must read smartphone history men. iOS is the 1 st and best os for smartphones .. And then android came here while taking all iOS secrets... (google CEO was in apple board for 4 years and took all secrets and made this stolen product call " android " and you screaming here like a child telling opposite of it . Oh my god !! When will this people c the truth ??? LOL !! My point is android people should shut the **** up and use their phones... Cz their android here cz of ios... Isn't that the true ? U think it before making such a comments here...
63. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
pmsl ok lets break down the derranged rant of a comment
what apple copied
well the obvious stuff like the notification bar, camera unlock and most of the so called 'new' features in iOS 6
also the design...the LG prada was obviously what apple decided to use for there device, some slight tweaks etc and apple can claim its there desing.
have a look at this, you might learn something
e/1167886/court_documents_appl e_looked_to_sony_for_iphone_de sign_inspiration.html
now to your claim about the OS. iOS is the first os for smartphones...........so symbian was what ? you need to get your facts right apple troll. and the best? far from it i have more functality on my belle fp2 808 then on iOS.
as t=for the google CEO stealing ideas....you gotta get out of that apple cloud and in the real world....apple are copying android get over it.
now directed at you, why dont you stop commenting and keep your deluded childish crap to yourself. honestly you are just not adding anything to the comments thats worthwhile
74. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
oh C'on man ... If you calling bout Symbian , then where is it now ? I said perfect os for smartphones ? Is Symbian better than iOS ?? And u talking that iPhone did copy by android( notification bar and etc ) um talking bout the the mass copy !! Don't you know how the android came ? So that inovation is the most important part of this smartphone world ? think man ! Think !! I'm not telling apple is the only best smartphone ?? But apple made the smartphone history .. And look at the numbers on iPhone 5 - 2.5 million just in 24 hours !! If it's a crap like you guys saying , then y people's buying it like crazy ?? More than all other devices ?? Dont you know how Samsung did change their phone models once they saw an iPhone in 2007 ?? C'on .. Didn't you read "Steve jobs" bio book ?? U better read it !!
76. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ok again lets break down your jibberish
perfect os? there is no such thing as a perfect os, if there was it wouldnt have to change your be updated so your talking nonsense there. and symbian might be the dead OS but it still has more function then iOS so get your facts straight apple troll
''apple made the smartphone history''
you need to get a grip, Symbian has more smartphone history then apple, nokia were the major player of smartphones. long before the iphone was ever put together from other sources and claimed as there own by apple.
mate no matter what anyone says you will always believe everything apple say. if they told you they have a flying horse you would believe them....yeah your that ridiculous
77. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Yeah apple did it !! They brought it this far !! Symbian what I used whole n sieries till n900.. I still love n 900. But if talking a real smart phone ,, then it began with apple !! The fastest safari xpierience ... And the capacity touch screen , pinch to zoom ... Music by cover flows ... Oh c' on man ... Try to c the reality... Before those did you c em with any brand of mobile phone ?? Fast mailing also ... Oh ... Man ... Ur solo blind ... That's what they showed to world then only ... All other put these on together with that stolen android ... LOL they still need to get that quality men ... I also sad cz apple soo expensive ... But we have to c the truth ... That's what I'm talking bout their enovation... U got it at least now ?
78. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ok seriously learn to use real sentences
apple didnt start the smartphone era just suggesting that brings into question how misinformed you are.
ohh god everything you class as what apple brought to mobiles first was already around so thats shuts that point up.
mate you wouldnt understand the truth if someone smacked you round the face with it. your clearly so attached to apple its unreal and again crediting apple for the start of smartphones has to be one of the maddest things ive ever heard.
innovation-a word that has lost all meaning to apple, please list what apple innovated or what apple designed from scratch
79. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
ok u tell me first that iOS or android which one came 1 st ? Um not talking bout lagy Symbian .. And do you know android CEO originally was in apple board ? Do you know that ? If you know that it's better ! I'm telling that android here cz of iPhone ? Cz of iOS ? Don't you have ever use an iPhone ? I don't think so ... Do tell me bout androids inventioned things ? I almost told ya that what apple made didn't you read my comment properly ? C' on men ....
80. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
ok again you need to learn how to use sentences and make proper sense.
first so what smartphone os came first android or iOS..but your only not counting Symbian because it disproves your crazy false point. nokia had the smartphone market before apple was even thinking of a phone. symbian, meego and s40 were first.
secondly seeing as iOS 6 is playing catchup to android now and copying there features your claim iOS is best is down right stupid. if it was the best it would already have all of these features and more
lastly you need a reality check but first list what apple invented before anyone else but do it in a readable way unlike your other comments
81. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
What kinda android mad man u are ? Is there any symbian now ? No right ? So why we should talk bout em !! I almost told you that I'm talking bout real meant smartphone ... so now tell me ...
Who invented these are ???
-pinch to zoom !(capacit touch screen)
- cover floor to music ..
- high speed Internet (safari)
- best mail expierince....
Even there was no any tab until the iPad.. So u still think apple copying others ?? And android ?? U go and think .. I won't bother anymore ... If iPhone sucks like u say.. Then how it comes like this success ?? In every new product ?? Specialy iPhone???
And I must say that you aren't giving any answer to my points .. Your just barking like who...... ?? (fill it with your self ) LOL .. I'm done with you.. Don't care any mad letters that u gonna write hereafter ...good luck with your android ...
82. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
im not an android man, why do people like you insist on labeling those who dont agree with your deluded views.
symbian juts got an update-belle fp2 so it's still going and still more functional then iOS. my nokia 808 can do everything your so called best smartphone iphone can and more so who's got the true smartphone
now to your points (laughable)
pinch to zoom and the capacitive touch screen were around way before the iphone read this
best mailing experience......you think they invented the best mailing experience.....your joking right
i cant understand this jibberish
''Even there was no any tab until the iPad.. So u still think apple copying others ?? And android ?? U go and think .''
and succes doesnt mean greatness.....my classic example is the hula hoop very successful yet look now.
you claim im just barking mate seriously you need help your in real need of help
again love how you think i have an android
sad sad man you are
83. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Oh now only I realized that y u barking bout Symbian ..Symbian is no longer man ... It almost dead !! Belle ... Huh ... Updated ... Yeah but it's not Symbian ryt ? That's y they move to windows.. They realized that they will no find place with this Symbian.. So y u trying to put it on up ?? Don't even they can't think ... My word and time , I'm just wasting em with writing to u.. I won't bother you man .. Bout that link.. U think twice is it should send to me or what ? We were talking bout smartphones??? Remember ? I'm sorry !
84. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
took you this long to realise when i said Symbian i was talking about.........wait for it.......... Symbian
they moved to windows for many reasons mainly elops connection to microsoft. and you can dig at Symbian for been dead but doesn't change the fact Symbian is more functional then your precious iOS.
its like trying to crack some random code when reading your comments. everything you written after
''That's y they move to windows''
doesn't make any sense, maybe your hiding behind your gibberish.
and yeah we are talking about smartphones, the link disproves your claims apple invented capacitive touch screens and pinch to zoom
just stop the nonsense mate you need educating and to be brought back down the reality
71. Rocksteady (unregistered)
Your comment is meaningless, seriously; it's one long sentence that makes no sense.
Android is very different than iOS, yet apple copied the Android pull-down notification bar.
apple added the camera shortcut to the unlock screen, just like the camera shortcut on the unlock screen of Android.
Who's doing all the copying?
Get your facts right before you open your mouth next time.
67. THETECHTEAM (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)
First off Samsung did not copy apple. Samsung makes the dang UI for apple. oh an those icons was samsungs idea!! Take a history class on Apple and you'll find out that samsung went into an agreement with apple to make the UI for them including those icons!!! Apple burned samsung and patened Samsung's ideas so actuall apple is the copycat with the new features that apple have on their phones now ,android had that almost 2 yrs ago so apple need to catch up with that sorry os
87. Jillxz (Posts: 148; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
Apple is the copy cat. It's a big ole thief from waaaay back when it stole from Xerox , IBM , and it stole the look of iPhone from Prada.
31. jshan (Posts: 200; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
All are blind here. So plz don't make comment on my comment unless u can throw a real comment.
36. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
same back to you, unless you can construct an actual comment that adds to this rather then you immature crying dont bother
32. Gaytor (Posts: 51; Member since: 09 Sep 2012)
Judge Koh is of Korean descent. Hence She is prone to feeling under pressure lest people call her biased for a Korean company.
34. raphael007 (Posts: 43; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
I can officially say that the iPhone is not really selling so they want to compensate for this loss ........throw in s galaxy note for them too
56. OnlyiPhone (unregistered)
@raphael007 once again what are you smoking all I'm going say is 2 million preorders for the iPhone 5 in less than a day. It's not selling stfu
35. FranksGT (Posts: 167; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)
This is what you get when you have a bunch of cry babies that cant hadle competition. THERE was PRIOR ART supporting that APPLE and SAMSUNG both were INSPIRED by others Products to produce a new likely design.
APPLE is mad because SAMSUNG is up there with their phone chain.
39. MikeG77 (Posts: 384; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
This is really getting out of hand. Apple wanted $2.5 billion in damages and only gets awarded $1 billion in damages. In my opinion it was more of a win for Samsung seeing as Apple was only able to get OLD devices banned and not the current lineup. Now apple is coming back and wanting 3 x the money they were awarded....If Judge Koh approves the request then what little faith i have in our so called justice system will have died.
Apple has stock thats worth over $700 per share, a market value over $650 billion (which is more then the entire value of Poland), 50% margin on there products, breaking pre-order records for devices, YOY increases in gross/net profit and your telling me that Samsung is causing you harm????? I am not against ANY company being succesful and making money but this just screams corporate greed and the only real winners are the attorneys and losers are us because are choices are limited.
42. MikeG77 (Posts: 384; Member since: 24 Nov 2008)
Thats cool that you thumb me down because all it does is reinforce my point. Im not saying that Samsung didn't use some Apple design cues but Apple is in no position to say that Samsung stole ideas seeing as Apple either copies and an idea and makes so called improvements or just buys a company and says that they created it cough cough Siri. The jury went through and awarded Apple $1 billion indamages based on the evidence that they were presented.
By Apple asking for more money there basically telling Judge Koh that they have no respect for her, the jury and there decision.