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Apple v. Samsung begins today, but don't expect Perry Mason-like court case

0. phoneArena 30 Jul 2012, 11:24 posted on

With the long awaited Apple v. Samsung trial beginning today, don't expect this to be like Perry Mason where a piece of evidence is cleverly admitted into the case forcing a last second admission from a courtroom spectator...

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posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:39 1

20. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Well I see an obvious evolution of slab based phones..as with all tech everything gets sleeker and more streamlined as tech gets smaller..these documents show that apple were not 1st with touchscreen devices and that other companies were planning on moving onto larger screen phones..just cause apple were 1sr to make it popular does not give them the right to be the one to only make touchscreen phones...as you can Samsung had plans of a touchscreen phone with a single button. How can Samsung have copied the iPhone when it didn't exist?..as I have believed all along the jury will hopefully use common sense and see that apple were not the only company thinking about touchscreen devices.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:41 1

22. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You're choosing to ignore the evidence

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:52 2

24. taz89 (Posts: 2009; Member since: 03 May 2011)


Which is? From the evidence shown so far all it shows is that apple were not the only company designing large touchscreen phones.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 14:38 4

47. D.Aceveda (Posts: 358; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


You choose to be an idiot.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 14:59 2

52. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


you choose to ignore evidence as well.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 15:20 3

54. Zero0 (Posts: 571; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Oh? Kinda like how you're choosing to ignore Samsung's evidence, which says that Apple infringed on patents that aren't "rounded corners?" Sorry, I forgot that patents that actually have something to do with technology are only worth half a cent. But the whole rounded cornered rectangle thing, that's probably worth AT LEAST $24.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 17:23 2

68. tedkord (Posts: 4294; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Kind of like how you chose to ignore the evidence that Samsung outsold Agile last quarter? Or the evidence that UA spoofing affects browser stats? Or the evidence that a study attributed Android users not using WI-FI to access to 4g tech, not a lack of user tech savvy?

Yep, if anyone would know intimately about ignoring evidence, it would be you.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:53 1

25. tedkord (Posts: 4294; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's plan to see if your IQ plus age add up to less than 100.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 13:37 2

33. frydaexiii (Posts: 1178; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


You know repeating this on every single thread isn't going to make it true right? Just like how if I post 2+2 = 5 on the internet everywhere doesn't magically make it true, but who knows? Maybe one day Apple might just say "2+2 = 5" and the reality distortion might actually make it true iDiots...

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 15:27 2

58. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


and apple copied sony.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 12:32 1

14. Techvue (Posts: 10; Member since: 25 Jul 2012)


Apple is fighting for its life now, if it loses this, it (the iPhone) will probably be RIM in 3-5 years.

As much as I think Apple is a "bad for the industry" company. I still think it is good to have competition.

I think the key for Apple, is stop being a phone-Nazi, let other companies produce your device, let their ideas filter in. Apple should stick to the OS & the App Store. This happened to Apple before and it feels like the definition of iNSANITY (do the same thing over and over and expect a different result).

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 15:35 1

62. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 460; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)


Dumbest comment ever. One of the most profitable companies in the world is fighting for it's life. Get a grip dummy, Apple isn't going anywhere. Stop taking sides in which you have no common interest.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 13:23 1

31. networkdood (Posts: 6252; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I think the more important question is:
What will happen when APPLE loses its case?
What will taco do then?

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 13:38 2

34. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Nothing at all, he'll just stay quiet for a while then start again after the next good news from Apple come out. Not to mention he love arguing using invalid facts, so that means he wouldn't stay quiet for very long.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 13:57 1

38. tedkord (Posts: 4294; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


A great Perry Mason moment would be if Samsung suddenly produced the former Apple designer who emailed Ive about the Sony design. If he hasn't died from his "health issues" by then.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 14:30 4

44. tedkord (Posts: 4294; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Just thought of a great scene from "Liar, Liar", that would be applicable here if Samsung did produce Shin Nishibori as a witness.

Apple Lawyer: "You honor, I object!"

Judge: "On what grounds?"

Apple Lawyer: "Because it's devastating to my case."

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 15:29 2

59. GoBears (Posts: 333; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Samsung didn't copy the iPad, HP did with the touchpad. It's so identical I can use an iPad case on it and the controls all can be used. The sad truth is that the real Apple died with Steve. This non innovating sue happy Apple of today is pathetic. Not to mention all of the big advances in IOS were either STOLEN from the jailbreak community or BORROWED from Android. Pathetic.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 15:31 1

61. GoBears (Posts: 333; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Oh yeah, If I was Apple I'd be more worried about WP8. It's really going to appeal to the simplistic type mobile user. Apple is only making Android more popular and well known.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 18:22 1

73. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Thank you for mentioning the Touchpad.

And yet Apple has NO problem with HP...but wants to ban Samsung products. I guess it can look alike as long as it doesnt sell well....

So much hypocrisy from Apple its maddening.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 18:18 3

72. Locke629 (Posts: 5; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)


I personally see a common design connection between the iPhone 3gs and the original galaxy s.

However, patents on general shapes and colors is absurd. No matter which way you slice it. Are tv manufacturers sueing each other over black rectangular devices that allows one to watch hd video content?? No they don't.

Apple likes to take existing technology and make it cool. That's all they do. I've owned their products and once the shiny cool factor wears off their products, imo, are boring.

I remember when ios got notifications. By that time I already ditched my iPhone and got an android device. All my iPhone using friends went ballistic at how cool it was....until I told them android been doing it since day one. But the whole point is not to defend companies. They only compete for our dollar to satisfy their investors and make them richer. No one should ever be so loyal to a product to lose sight of that.

To taco, I've been visiting this site for over a year and seen your comments....and dude.... please lay off the koolaid. Do some research and see Apple steals from their competitors all the time. Just cause they have a popular product doesn't make them a saint....

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 18:26 2

74. jroc74 (Posts: 4720; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


But in taco's world....its fine for Apple to "borrow" cuz its APPLE....but let someone borrow from APPLE...

All hell breaks loose from the Apple, iPhone, Ipad fanboys.

Android manufactures borrow from each other alot..especially software.
I have YET to see ANY lawsuit from one against the other. And I dont see fanboys of certain Android phones attacking each other about copying.

posted on 30 Jul 2012, 18:37 2

77. Locke629 (Posts: 5; Member since: 12 Mar 2012)


Precisely my point. Android and, for the most part, windows mobile manufacturers understand that the best way to drive innovation is to license hardware, develop new hardware technologies and build upon software.

I feel like most people forget that the wonderful GUI interface we all use on Apple computers and PC's was originally conceptualized by Xerox. Steve Jobs AND Bill Gates went to a private unveiling of that type of system from Xerox and copied them....

The end result was innovation after innovation and the furthering of technology and creation of industry standards. What happened to the good ole days when manufacturers focused on making a better quality product over their competitor??

posted on 31 Jul 2012, 13:49

83. Redfox82 (Posts: 5; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)


I am so sick of apple, always trying to sue competitors over stupid stuff, really,...let each phone speak for themselves. I have both but love my android phone. Apple have too many restrictions , no flash player and so far they all look alike, same doting ii.

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