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Apple to use Lightning port for earbuds and headphones?

0. phoneArena 05 Jun 2014, 17:21 posted on

Apple has made a small change to its MFi certification program, that will allow suppliers to produce headphones that connect to the Lightning connector instead of the 3.5mm headphone jack. To allow already released iDevices to support this, Apple will eventually pushout a firmware update that will allow those with a device running iOS 7.1 or higher, to use the Lightning connector for a headphone...

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posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:28 6

1. Emmanuelz (Posts: 65; Member since: 01 Aug 2013)


Revolutionary

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 20:59

29. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3318; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I agree

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 00:01

44. vincelongman (Posts: 1044; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I don't think Apple are dropping the 3.5mm jack any time soon, since there's no point in a headphone using lightning, the audio quality would be the same since its would still be using the iPhone's DAC

From what I've read Apple doing to so you don't need need a lightning to USB adaptor to use an external DACs
Here's what I mean
http://blog.jdslabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ODAC-USB-Hub.jpg
More info
http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=838

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:13

48. engineer-1701d (Posts: 616; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


to set your head on fire , short and boom

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:30 13

2. fzacek (Posts: 1399; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


I hate that Apple uses proprietary ports for all their products. They just don't want to conform to MicroUSB, because all they want is money, money, money, money....

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:41 3

5. HansGoneInsane (Posts: 374; Member since: 09 Aug 2013)


Itis their good right to do so.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:16

49. engineer-1701d (Posts: 616; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


its international law all must have micro usb that's why they supply adapters with phones in east

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:29

53. Cicero (Posts: 269; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


EU law (development) will force all mobile devices to have the same standard port (microusb).

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:58 3

14. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 850; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


MicroUSB is trash.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:38 22

20. Jango_Fred (Posts: 54; Member since: 17 Dec 2008)


What is your scientific basis for this?

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:41 24

21. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1570; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


His basis is that since Apple does not use it, it must be trash.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:17 1

50. engineer-1701d (Posts: 616; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


and he is a kid

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:33

39. vipervoid123 (Posts: 82; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


Actually Lightning port is a lot faster than a normal microUSB port ~
Beside Lightning is Intel product not Apple ~
Just Apple use it for marketing ~

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 00:44

47. saiki4116 (Posts: 336; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)


Wow..Thunderbolt(it is connected to PCIe and optical cable for more throughput) is Intel's one not Lightning port. Apple just want you to purchase their delicate accessories more and more, that's it nothing more.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 21:33 2

31. fzacek (Posts: 1399; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


It's the standard...

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:44

42. mrblah (Posts: 421; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


lol, the standard of for crap.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 20:59

27. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3318; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I can get a 30-pin cable for $5. Lightning cables are only $15.

Get over it.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:43 1

41. mrblah (Posts: 421; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


wrong, because it is better and they don't settle for dog crap because its the only thing out like you do. micro usb is really junk, only fits one way? breaks easy? No thanks, keep that fail.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:54 2

43. bbblader (Posts: 575; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


Strange,I have never broken mine. And calling the most widely used port in the world crap is bullcrap.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:35 1

3. gehrig (Posts: 156; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)


Coolio.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:40 1

4. karamelakimo (Posts: 55; Member since: 26 May 2014)


it's revolutinoary for sure but i don't like that , i think that will force ppl to buy headphones and earpuds specific for the new models

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:48

8. promise7 (Posts: 349; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


I'm sure there will be adaptars, still something a consumer will have to buy, but cheaper than buying new heaphones/earpods. Apple could also deside to include a adaptar during the transition like how they include a mini-display port to DVI adaptar when buying a Mac mini.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:45 2

6. Sauce (unregistered)


Why didn't you mention 48 kHz digital audio PA? Thats the main reason

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:19 5

16. GreekGeek (Posts: 659; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


oh yeah? like there's an audible difference between a 44 kHz vs 48kHz ?

There is a limit to what the human ear can hear kid

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 21:48 4

35. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


While repoduction on a higher frequency spectrum 44.1 converting to 48 does nothing, 48khz also supports 24 bit amplitude level which IS audible and DOES make a difference. Also all hollywood movies/DVD's/Blue rays are 48khz, 24bit and the higher amplitude makes a difference. And I have an audio degree btw, I own a label... not making it up.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:26 2

17. buccob (Posts: 1356; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)


Does anyone know how is this different from what an USB DAC enabled device like the Xperia Z2 can do?

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:37

19. Sauce (unregistered)


I'm unfamiliar with that

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:42 3

22. av911 (Posts: 130; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


Not surprised.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 19:32

24. Sauce (unregistered)


sauceFanboy spotted :D

You can email me at whotheFareyouinthisworld@takethetrollsbate.com

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 00:04

46. vincelongman (Posts: 1044; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


iPhones can't directly use USB DACs
You need a lightning to USB adaptor
Here's what I mean
http://blog.jdslabs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/ODAC-USB-Hub.jpg
More info
http://blog.jdslabs.com/?p=838

Apple might be trying to make it so you can plug lightning straight into a USB DAC without an adaptor

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:47

7. NexusX (Posts: 91; Member since: 16 May 2013)


next gen headphones would come with built-in memory card slot, extended batteries, qi charger, nfc chip, etc

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:52

9. NexusX (Posts: 91; Member since: 16 May 2013)


maybe vr headset like occulus rift would be compatible with the iPhones too

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:53 3

10. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Apple is going to do more w/Beats than HTC..

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:39 2

40. frydaexiii (Posts: 1206; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Obviously...Most overrated & overpriced tech maker meets Most overrated & overpriced earphone maker, the result is so obvious even iFans can see it.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:56 1

11. MacWiNux (Posts: 60; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


its like going back to the days of feature phones every brand has its own earphone port

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:56

12. bugsbunny00 (Posts: 932; Member since: 07 Jun 2013)


earbuds huh! thats when the beats headphones kick in..

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 17:57

13. alrightihatepickingusernames (Posts: 329; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)


Apple's earpods are the only product of theirs that I use, and I have a horrible habit of losing/breaking/ingesting/ hanging people with them so it'd definitely turn me away if I have to buy an adapter to use them in the future.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:24

51. engineer-1701d (Posts: 616; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


they keep falling out of my ears i use bose obly now beats 1 a week at home

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 18:09

15. PBXtech (Posts: 970; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


How tight is the connection of the charging jack compared to the earphone jack? I thought one of the selling points of the connector was easy disconnect so nothing gets damaged. Could accidental unplugging happen frequently?

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 19:09 2

23. Zenzui (Posts: 71; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)


Damn another way for them to control the technology and milk the money out of it from consumer. I hope this plans has something worth gaining in the end vs the $$ tag they will introduce to it.

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 19:39 2

25. Astoni (Posts: 440; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


My only reaction is Dafuq?

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 20:50

26. PressStart (Posts: 113; Member since: 08 Apr 2014)


Mousetrap...

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 20:59

28. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6239; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Well this will make BEATS irrelevant. no more MICRO USB for BEATS

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 21:27

30. ZayZay (Posts: 556; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)


Give me proprietary or give me death (or I guess just take my money for more proprietary headphones when mine break.)

Homie don't play that!

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 21:44 1

33. Armchair_Commentator (Posts: 88; Member since: 08 May 2014)


USB 3.1 type-C!

posted on 05 Jun 2014, 22:27 3

38. frydaexiii (Posts: 1206; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


OMG, Is Apple seriously going to throw us back to the times of dumbphones where we had to use an adaptor to use 3.5 earphones? I was so happy at the start of the smartphone era when I could just plug my earphones straight into my phone without an adaptor.

Screw you Apple, seriously, why are you so determined to stop technological advancement???

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 00:02

45. dongk14 (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


I think what this does is allow for thinner devices. The current 3.5mm jack is nearly as thick as the iPod touch 5th gen, and with where Apple's devices are going in regards to thickness, it would seem logical to remove as many obstacles to reducing thickness as possible. This move also seems to shed light on what Apple could do with Beats headphones. Yes this may piss some people off, but for the other millions of uneducated masses, they'd probably be more than happy to buy them. I don't see how this could hinder technological advancement though.... I mean 3.5 headphone jacks have been around for quite some time......

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 01:27

52. engineer-1701d (Posts: 616; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


next will be magnetic ear phone jack no more incert

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 02:40 1

54. alumoyo (Posts: 152; Member since: 26 Aug 2013)


That would be the dumbest most arrogant move they ever made! I'm a fan of Apple, but this??? I hope they will still offer 3.5mm - coz this kind of idiocy will sink them. I remember Sony Ericsson: their RIDICULOUS proprietary ports and overpriced M2 Memory cards - look how well THAT went!

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 07:44

55. majp89 (Posts: 96; Member since: 18 Jun 2013)


wat. you can't charge your phone and listen to music at the same time in that case if you're forced to use this port. nop.

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 13:49

56. alexboy20 (Posts: 17; Member since: 05 Apr 2014)


Wtf?!! Now I have to chose between listening to music on my earphones or charging my phone???!!! If they do this I might leave apple, yes I'm sure their will be a adapter to do both. But that's more money n more things in the way. They should leave the 3.5 mm hole n let people choose what they want to buy

posted on 06 Jun 2014, 18:35

57. Droidrapist (Posts: 186; Member since: 28 May 2014)


If Apple figures out how to make the lighting port water proof without a lid, the only remaining obstacle would be the 3.5mm jack, hence the changes. I use pro headphones, but not with my iphones. I the iPhone comes with supplied lighting ear buds and is water proof without a clumsy lid that will break off eventually and thus rending water resistance of the phone useless - this all eventually leads to a better product down the line.

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