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Apple suppliers accused of being a major polluter in China

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Apple suppliers accused of being a major polluter in China
The first accusations of heavy metal pollution flew at tech companies including Apple and its Chinese suppliers in April 2010, but unlike other tech companies, which have reportedly taken measures against it, Cupertino remained tight lipped about the issue. Now, more than a year after that, Ma Jun, the person who started the accusations serving as a director of a Chinese environmental group, was joined by five NGOs claiming that Apple has picked suppliers with a record of polluting the environment and is using them to take “advantage of the loopholes in developing countries’ environmental management systems”.

Among 29 mentioned brands, Apple is narrowed down as the only one, which is being non-responsive. Unlike previous times, the company, now led by Tim Cook, replied even before the report was released saying that the listed companies are not among its suppliers, but gave no further details. Apple doesn’t reveal its suppliers, but the Chinese environmentalists claim that they have used public information to make a list of 20 Apple manufacturers.

Previously, Ma Jun has also attacked the US-based phone maker for poor work safety and environmental standards, claiming that "We've found that Apple isn't honoring its commitment in ensuring its supply chain's work safety and environmental responsibility and giving dignity and respect to the workers.”


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posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:01 3

1. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)


Rotten Apple is very stingy company on earth, making billions dollars in profit and spent little on suppliers and employees.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:28

3. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


HaHA. But has eco friendly plants in the USA. Glad i'm in America. Semper Apple.
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posted on 31 Aug 2011, 15:50

36. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@som. What are you trying to say then? That if Apple's contract with a supplier stipulated a $1b deal, that they should pay $2b? Is that what your business professor taught you? To pay way more than the amount stated on your contract?

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 04:19

54. daniel_bargs (Posts: 325; Member since: 27 Nov 2010)


maybe he's talking about corporate responsibility. that you should not take opportunity of the broken laws on poor countries just for your cause. you are getting richer but the nature is suffering.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:21 5

2. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Let the Apples hit the floor!! Let the Apples hit the floor!!

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:28 4

4. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Word. All of them. So i can pick them up and sell them.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 17:03 2

44. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Even with the cracked screens?

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:41 6

5. ilia1986 (unregistered)


199.99$ for iSheep-approved iJoke. Package contains 1 Premium Apple sticker.

You can also buy an Apple Glue can for 59.99$ to put on your Apple sticker to stick it!

Also: Apple sticker 3GS! 0.00000000000000023% thinner and lighter! Just for 599$.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:46 1

6. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


yes! where can i buy?

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:48 6

7. ilia1986 (unregistered)


You cant! You need an iTunes account first. Just 99.99$ per day.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:52 3

8. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Thank you so much for the info. I owe you.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 15:53

37. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@illa. Itunes is free. You obviously do not know what you are talking about. That's the problem. I knew it. You think that itunes requires a membership fee, hahahaha. You're ignorant :)

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 00:03

50. ilia1986 (unregistered)


gemini - I am an iphone user. OBVIOUSLY I know that iTunes is free. Heck, itunes is about the only thing which is free in the whole iPhome thing. I was being sarcastic you ignorant isheep.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 09:53 4

9. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


So most corporations that bypass enviornmental regs, exploit workforce, and generally cheat the system, do so to keep prices low. But Apple uses old technology, and uses supply chains that operate like this and still have a very pricey product, and people wonder why their market value makes them the most profitable company in the world. Buy the book Corporate Corruption for Dummies by Apple.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 16:01

38. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@darthball. Where have you been all these years? US companies have been outsourcing for years now. Not just Apple. The reason is that they get tax incentives in those countries, and is cost-effective for them. That is totally legal. The problem is, you don't know a lot. You probably think it's a crime to outsource, lol. Apple products are pricey due to high demand. If you studied the basics of economics you should know about the basic rules of supply and demand and how that affects a price of a commodity. Now let me ask you this. Why did HP lower the price of the Touchpad? Why is the price of the ipad2 unchanged?

If you know economics, you should know the answer. But knowing that you are a dumb android fanboy, you're answer would be something like, "Apple brainwashed millions of consumers". Right? Lol.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 10:03 1

10. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Dont forget about our own coal mines. SMH

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 10:16 7

11. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


To me the worst part about this business is that Apple either doesn't really care or out right encourages the behavior.

In EVERY aspect of how Apple does business, they are in control and dictate practically EVERYTHING. This alone removes any argument that Apple just "contracts" services from these companies and "has no control" of what they do.

Apple has been known to dictate types of employees, advert placement in stores etc etc etc.

The fact they apparently do not put the same focus on the back end of their supply chain, indicates they don't care. If they DID care, I would bet my life they would have specific demands on this stuff. Either way is bad imho. Especially from a company that seems to put improtance in the enviroment.http://www.apple.com/environment/

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 11:05 1

14. brant (Posts: 24; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


#dandirk we might get thumb down but there is truth behind what you say.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 16:19

39. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@dandirk. Apple is a business entity. They are not United Nations. I am not saying that they shouldn't care. But Apple has little to no influence as to how other countries' work cultures are. Apple cannot impose health care and retirement benefits in China like it is enforced here in the US.

Apple can only demand expected quality standards for their devices from their suppliers, which are all included under their contract. Apple's contract cannot include working conditions. Apple is not part of the hiring process of those suppliers, neither a part of those suppliers management. Unless you can tell us that Apple is a member of the board of directors of these suppliers, or that they're sharholders. Or if Apple is in charge of the payroll of these employees. Are they?

With or without Apple. The working conditions in these factories would be the same. But don't worry, eventually, those workers will be replaced by robots. By then, they could just rest in their homes :)

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 09:37

56. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


I disagree Apple can and HAS dictated how companies run their businesses. ALL the TIME!!!

Has NOTHING to do with board of directors, employee pay etc. It has to due with apple doing business with them perioid.

Apple has never been affraid of dictating policy on their products. Demanding certain placement or their products, or special training etc...

Apple care about its image and is willing to forego sales to ensure it is done the way they want.

If they were as dedicated to their "enviromental" vision, they would apply the same pressure.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 10:22 1

12. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


I can tell scary stories about just how much control, and secretive spying, Apple does to it's contractors. If it is going to have the Apple name on it they know what goes into the making aquireing of product and every aspect of the job. If it was wrong or illegal, Apple knew or ordered it to be done that way.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 16:27

40. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@darthball. You have nothing but baseless stories. If you really do have a valid story, you could sell it to the media and be rich and you wouldn't be wasting your time here on PA.

Apple have written and binding contracts with their suppliers. It's either a supplier agrees and could be able to meet Apple's standards or they could not. As to the workers' working condition, Apple has nothing to do with it, that is the suppliers' call.

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 09:39

57. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)


Unless Apple really cared and wrote that into the contract.

They have whole advertising campaigns and webpages based on their green "enviroment" innitatives and goals...

Yet don't support it with the same vigor they do with their other "images"

posted on 01 Sep 2011, 10:05

58. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


NO!!!! I have first hand experience as a contractor working for Apple and while I will not post my info on the site if you care to hear just how crazy they are you can e-mail me and I will be more than happy to tell you my experiences.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 10:58 1

13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


agree with dandirk.


People ask me why I dont like apple. HERES REASON #1.

apple is known as a very controlling and very detail oriented company. they KNOW whats going on with their suppliers and how they treat their employees and the environment. All while at the same time building a new super "eco friendly" headquarters in america to keep all the iSheep looking at the shiney building, not realizing its being built on the backs of slave labor and heavy pollution.

people might come to apple's defence and say "well everyone else is doing it". really, go find me those reports and prove it. Noone else has anti-jumping nets installed around their factories from mass suicides. noone else put up a factory in 30 days and forgot to install VENTILLATION which hurt and killed many workers after the factory exploded... so on and so on... no one else.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 11:35 1

15. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Nah nah nah naaaah!

I'm only gonna jailbreak, jail jailbreak your iPhone. I'm only gonna jailbreak, jail jailbreak your iPhone.

Now listen to me iSheep.
Before I leave yer Apple
They call me fandroid
I don't wanna deceive ya

If you bind me with iTunes
I'm not easy to please
I will tear you apart
Told you from the start - I want widgets and delight.

[chorus]

There's no point trying to hide it
no point trying to evade it.
I know I want FREEDOM
I don't have it with what I'm getting.

[chorus]

And you know SJ gonna get me back for being so cold
like a big bad Android, I'm born to be free to the bone
If you bind me with iTunes I'm gonna tear you apart
Told you from the start.

[chorus]


:D

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 11:42 1

16. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Boooooo. lol. You a funny guy. I bet you drive a car. We are all guity for doing harm to our globe. What the F ever. We live and we die. God will come back and this will have all not mattered.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 14:02

20. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


driving your car is a lot better than the toxic chemicals that electronics makers use in your device. nothing like murcury, other heavy metals, harsh cleaner chemicals, so on and so forth. put your head in the sand isheep and post an obama "green jobs" bumper sticker on yer booty so u can say ur helping the environment.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 12:45 2

17. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Apple does not own these companies. They should contact their government if they find their working conditions unfavorable. Or they could simply quit their jobs and work somewhere else. But of course knowing how dense android fanboys are, they probably think that Apple owns these companies in China and that Apple is a lawmaker in China, lol. This is like a prostitute who complains why she got STD. Or a gang member who complains why he gets drive by shootings.

Are the employees of these factories mandated to work for these companies? I don't think so. Does Apple have jurisdiction over employment policies in China? I don't think so. If these companies have been approved by their government to operate the way they do. Then these companies are legal companies that Apple can contract with. Apple is in no position to give these companies orders on how they operate their business. These companies are answerable to their government, not to Apple. Therefore, Apple is not answerable to these complaints.

posted on 31 Aug 2011, 13:26 1

18. darth8ball (Posts: 520; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


Wow I know that I find your opinions to vary from mine and often think of them as not well thought through, but now I'm sure you are either a trust fund baby or in High School and haven't worked in the real world.
I have worked as a contractor for Apple as a client, and have a first hand knowledge of the absolute BS control freak power Apple takes out on it's contractors. They aren't innocent in these matters.
As for these workers quitting their jobs because their company takes on a contract with a company that makes them push workers the way they do, you have no idea of what kind of economy the world is in.

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