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Apple sues Samsung over the Galaxy line, ITC siding up with Nokia and HTC against Apple

0. phoneArena 19 Apr 2011, 02:17 posted on

Apple is taking Samsung to court, claiming that its Galaxy line, and more specifically, the Galaxy S phones and Galaxy Tab slate, are copying not only iOS elements like icons, but also the physical appearance of Apple's gadgets...

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posted on 19 Apr 2011, 16:25 17

46. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Inspiration is different from imitation. Audi was inspired by BMW's corona rings. So what did Audi do? Did they install corona rings on their Audi's? No. They came up with their own linear or L shaped LED lights to achieve similar dramatic effect that the BMW's corona rings have. Now that's inspiration, not imitation. Apple products are also inspired by devices that came out before their's. But they didn't simply copy. They innovated from those existing designs. Don't be silly.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 18:14 14

53. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


i was wondering when you would show up.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 18:49 18

56. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I guess you feel you own this site huh? :)

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 19:34 12

60. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


Nope, but anything that says apple its followed by a gemini. I do like the above ^ analogy, but I think this is a desperate attempt to hold back progress by apple.

sn you and sniggly keep up the battling, it always makes for entertainment

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 19:39 17

62. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


So just me huh. You don't see your regular fellow fandroid trolls lurking around. You just see me. How thoughtful :)

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 19:35 13

61. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


you feel better i give you two thumbs up! lol

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 19:41 16

63. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


I'll feel better when fandroids finally get a brain that works :)

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 19:48 12

64. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


lol i dont even have an android. just enjoy how worked up you get over apple.lol

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 20:12 9

65. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


o lord look at the thumbs ups and downs now.

does anyone know that you sleep with a steve jobs blowup doll?

that should get me 15+ thumbs down

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 09:12 12

26. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Most of the time I try to be polite.... but not today.... I need to see something burn! so I'll leave gasoline here and hope you guys set this thread on fire! (phonearena needs some extra $$$ to pay bills this month anyways)
http://i.imgur.com/aLGOQ.jpg

here is the phone
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-SGH-F700_id1941/photos

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 16:16 16

44. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Oh please. It's not even close. Use your common sense. There would be a degree of similarities between these touchscreen devices. There's only so much they can do to make one dramatically different. Although Apple has done that. But for a device to look almost exactly the same as the other is downright copying. Stop playing innocent.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 20:58 4

67. aruegas (Posts: 9; Member since: 04 Mar 2011)


"UPDATE: It looks like the F700 was actually first announced in February 2007 — a month after Steve Jobs debuted the iPhone — and was released in December 2007, months after the iPhone’s debut. Worse, it was greeted with accusations of being a complete iPhone ripoff!"

The link that you have provided is not at all credible.

posted on 20 Apr 2011, 07:26

95. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Actually it was not gotten from any research.... I just wanted a flame war.... so far so good

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 09:54 12

27. jskrenes (Posts: 209; Member since: 11 Dec 2008)


Look at the UI on the Fascinate: when you get into the app tray, you have icons with rounded edges and a side-scrolling menu instead of a vertically-scrolling menu. Apps that are downloaded appear in sequential order of download, not alphabetical order like on HTC or Motorola Android phones. It's obvious that Samsung took some influence from Apple's design, but holding the two devices side by side, it's also quite easy to tell the devices apart.

Keep in mind that Apple is also the company that applied for patents on the gestures (not just the hardware, but the gestures) you use to interact with the device, as well as software that would allow Apple to record voice calls, take biometric readings, and take pictures with both cameras if they found you had jailbroken the device.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 10:01 10

28. Xpple (unregistered)


All companies that make smartphones should all just go into court together and go through everything till it's all decided who owns what then they can all get onto making us better devices.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 10:05 13

30. ollie (unregistered)


OMFG, APPLE THE FAGS.... apple is suing the samsung for the design similarities in the samsung galaxy s and the iphone 4, but the galaxy s came out before the iphone fucking 4. and they dont own ficking icons and pinch zoom was around on touch computers made in like 2005 so apple can't complian. APPLE your the most hypercritical company i know. just because your a scared that android & other mobile phone companys will absolutely pown you when it comes to making phones. corperate bitches... if you hold up the luanch of the samsung galaxy s2 i will figging rip your steve Precious jobs and his loyars head off.... IM NOT A HAPPY PERSON :( zzzz

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 10:28 10

35. Xpple (unregistered)


lmao. . . dude. . . breath. . . their just phones and nothing is going to be held up. Just like the Nokia, HTC Vs Apple lawsuits haven't slowed anything down. More than likely this will just piss Sammy off more and they'll step things up even more = better for us cause they'll release some serious kit. Just look how they stepped up the Tab after Jobs mouthed off about them.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 18:18 10

54. jbash (Posts: 345; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)


lol, enjoyed reading that

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 12:13 12

37. jduran541977 (Posts: 10; Member since: 14 Apr 2011)


apple u sucks you are getting scare that android os going to be number one from years to come let me phrase that they are number one same going to happen with android tablet they will be one step ahead of you to me the ipad 2 sucks look at those new tablets coming out better spec better screen resolution and they all have flash player something you dont have because you are a company that like to rip people money bootom line you are loosing this war android will rule from years to come

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 16:08 16

43. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Ummm, android already too over the market share months ago. But Apple still holds the higher capital share. So I don't think that Apple is scared of android devices at all. Apple just wants the copying to stop. It's not flattering anymore. Apple is still the topdog, the rest are just a poor man's iphone and ipad wannabes :)

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 20:57 10

66. GetALife (unregistered)


wow. . . you really need to get a life. . . how long have you spent on this site putting thumbs up for yourself and thumbs down for everyone else. . . pathetic!

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 12:36 12

40. Smartphone Fan (unregistered)


This is so funny, it is a lame law suit. A little late. I mean apple come on you should of filed this law suit two years ago. The Galaxy Vibrant and captivate when it came out I saw the picture here on this site a year a go and said. 'oh my, this looks like an Iphone, DUh!'

Apple you knew they where going to come out with this phone a long time before it launched and now that they are kicking your tail you want their money. Come on. Microsoft must of encouraged you to do this so late in the game they are notorious for late law suits. Hey why dont you come out with that affordable IPHONE for 200.00 bucks already.
I love apple products too, except for the dumb battery...

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 16:05 16

42. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Ummmmm, Apple makes more money than Samsung.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 17:13 12

51. AppleFUD (unregistered)


I'm not sure about that.
According to wikipedia at least.
As you can see from the stats Samsung probably made the same or more than Apple in 2010 and is a much bigger company. You're probably stuck on the idea of "market cap" and that doesn't really matter to anyone outside of wall street and can change very quickly. In fact Microsoft's market cap was adjusting in the 90s because they had too much of an impact on the market--that's the only reason Apple currently has a higher market cap.

Samsung for 2009
Revenue = US$ 172.5 billion (2009)
Net income = US$ 13.8 billion (2009)
Total assets = US$ 294.5 billion (2009)
Total equity = US$ 112.5 billion (2009)

Apple for 2010
Revenue = US$ 65.23 billion (FY 2010)
Operating income = US$ 18.39 billion (FY 2010)
Profit = US$ 14.01 billion (FY 2010)
Total assets = US$ 75.18 billion (FY 2010)
Total equity = US$ 47.79 billion (FY 2010)

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 18:59 16

57. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


Stop beating around the bush. Just go directly to how much the company is worth. I have no clue where you got your rundown figures from, but according to Forbes, Apple is worth $255.18 billion. Now tell me how much Samsung is worth. I believe Samsung is only worth somewhere around $100 billion.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 20:59 2

68. AppleFUD (unregistered)


That's market cap you moron! Maybe you ought to go educate yourself just a little as to what market cap is.

I even pointed that out so I wouldn't get a moronic reply about market cap but you are obviously just that stupid. . . .

posted on 20 Apr 2011, 00:41 4

76. aruegas (Posts: 9; Member since: 04 Mar 2011)


Here's their most current key statistics you dumbass :)

Apple:
Balance Sheet
Total Cash (mrq): 26.98B
Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 29.28
Total Debt (mrq): 0.00
Total Debt/Equity (mrq): N/A
Current Ratio (mrq): 1.85
Book Value Per Share (mrq): 59.35
Cash Flow Statement
Operating Cash Flow (ttm): 22.59B
Levered Free Cash Flow (ttm):


Samsung:
Balance Sheet
Total Cash (mrq): 20.59B
Total Cash Per Share (mrq): 79.30
Total Debt (mrq): 9.89B
Total Debt/Equity (mrq): 12.06
Current Ratio (mrq): 1.54
Book Value Per Share (mrq): 302.14
Cash Flow Statement
Operating Cash Flow (ttm): 21.87B
Levered Free Cash Flow (ttm):

posted on 20 Apr 2011, 00:45 4

77. aruegas (Posts: 9; Member since: 04 Mar 2011)


I'd also like to point out to you that Apple has 0 ZERO debt, while Samsung has a total debt of $9.89 billion.

posted on 20 Apr 2011, 10:10

100. FYI (unregistered)


FYI. . .
AppleFUD's numbers are from Wikipedia

I would think that major companies make sure that their Wikipedia page is correct.

Can't find where aruegas found his/her info but it's clearly more related to stocks and doesn't give us a year state only quarter. . . from what I can gather and without a ledger the average person doesn't know what mrq & ttm stands for.

posted on 19 Apr 2011, 15:59 15

41. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


My goodness. All these fandroids. Is there a fandroid convention going on in here? Lol.

Let Apple sue whoever they want. If they feel cheated, then let them sue. Aren't fandroids advocates of freedom? Well Apple has that freedom too you know. And let's not deny the obvious. Samsung has been copying Apple designs for years now. Apple was lenient w/ them because they do supply Apple with hardware parts, and I think Samsung took advantage of Apple's leniency. But now that Apple is getting their parts somewhere else, that leniency has diminished, and it's time for Samsung to stop copying Apple products' designs. And please stop already with, "Prada came out first" line. No one cared for the Prada phone, ok. Samsung is copying Apple's iphone and ipad, and they need to stop. Period.

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