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Apple shares down 12% from highs as carriers cut on subsidies, Verizon reps pushing LTE over the iPhone

0. phoneArena 07 May 2012, 02:44 posted on

Apple's stock is down double digits since all-time highs, as carriers are clamping down on subsidies. Verizon reps, in their turn, seem to push for 4G LTE phones, leaving the iPhone behind...

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posted on 07 May 2012, 09:44 2

11. troybuilt (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Dec 2011)


and why would Apple ever do that? Apple's never going to release information that makes them look bad. Especially in regards to Foxconn. Apple wanted to stay silent about that because they knew what was going on in those factories, till, the media kept pushing the issue and Apple decided to step in. Still nothing has changed in the factories.

posted on 07 May 2012, 13:09

46. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


That was just that guy's sales pitch to get the customer to buy a 4G phone. anyone who works in the stores for Verizon can vouch that iPhone is the least returned smartphone carried. mentioning that iPhone 4S is not 4G isn't a deterrent at all. as far as that salesperson's statement...i've never had anyone return an iPhone b/c they find out it doesn't do 4G b/c they are told before they buy that it is only 3G. most ppl say they don't mind the 3G. the bigger question about that statement is how does a customer leave the store having purchased an iPhone not get told during the sales process that it wasn't 4G.

posted on 07 May 2012, 18:07

51. BattleBrat (Posts: 1476; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


You don't get it, I have friends who dropped their sub month owned iPhones, walked right in the apple stores and they give you a new one (provided you bought it at an apple store or from apple.com) and trust me quite a few exchange them at the store.

posted on 07 May 2012, 10:23

14. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Once iPhone goes LTE, reps still may be more inclined to go other phones however if the commission is not as high for the iPhone. At least reps will not get dinged for selling a 3G device.

It is a tough battle really. Once folks start getting apps, folks now have a vested interest in the iOS platform and hence moving to a new platform (like Android) may be a tough swallow because folks will need to repurchase their apps again.

I have a 2nd generation iPod Touch. That was a huge factor in purchasing an iPhone 4 because I knew I would not have to repurchase all my apps. So even though getting an Android equivalent at first may have been cheaper, once you factored in the price of the Android version of the apps, it was cheaper to get the iPhone in the end.

posted on 07 May 2012, 10:34 1

16. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


yea, but most of those apps you paid for on iOS are free on android anyways :)

posted on 07 May 2012, 10:29

15. DOGIEFRESH (Posts: 302; Member since: 15 Jul 2009)


Of course they're pushing 4G LTE cuz their 3G is slowwwwwwww as hell

posted on 07 May 2012, 11:23 1

20. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Stocks go up and down. Once iPhone 5 hits with LTE it's pretty much game over. iPhone 4S had about 60% of sales on the big 3 without having 4g.

Imagine iPhone 4 free on all three carriers, iPhone 4s $99 and iPhone 5 with LTE $199. Apple will dominate smartphone sales like never before and they're already dominating them now.

posted on 07 May 2012, 11:41 2

24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


60% of the sales while sliding in marketshare? Hmm.. someone's math is off.

posted on 07 May 2012, 12:01

34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


80% on AT&T 51% on VZW and 75% on Sprint. Do you want more links. Almost everything that you type is incorrect.

posted on 07 May 2012, 12:05 3

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


and you think 1 month/quarter is indicative of the whole year? Android gains in market share nearly every month while the iphone is stagnant at best. If those numbers rang true, then the market would reflect it.
Yes, link it troll. Link all of it.. with links that work.

posted on 07 May 2012, 12:27

42. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Why did you say my math is off then. Once I present the facts you just change the topic like you never said it.

posted on 07 May 2012, 14:04 4

49. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


I didnt change the subject.

Notice how my first reply says your math is off because marketshare doesnt reflect it?

notice how my second reply says your math is off because market share doesnt reflect it?

Isnt it time for you to start ignoring the thread as proof positive that you lost another arguement?

posted on 07 May 2012, 11:56

30. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Add rumors of T-Mobile being iPhone compatible "soon" also ...

Otherwise, with 4S, 14.4 Mbps on AT&T (with coverage of course), amazing camera, 1080P recording, image stabilization.

I was going to keep my iP4, skip the iP4S and maybe even the iP5 for the one after.

A cheap 4S on AT&T ... is tempting.

posted on 07 May 2012, 13:16

47. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


14.4Mbps on At&t? was everyone else sleeping and you were on the network by yourself? i'll put that up there w/fairy tales like Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, & 2Pac still being alive on some island.

posted on 07 May 2012, 16:36 1

50. bbonline (Posts: 38; Member since: 24 Feb 2011)


That's the theoretical speed the iPhone 4S on AT&T is capable of.

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