Apple seeks ban on U.S. Samsung Galaxy S III
0. phoneArena 06 Jun 2012, 19:22 posted on
No sooner is the Samsung Galaxy S being pre-ordered in the States, than Apple is back in U.S. Court seeking to add the Samsung Galaxy S III to its request for a preliminary ban on the Samsung GALAXY Nexus; Apple says the Samsung Galaxy S III infringes on two of its patents including one for Siri...
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136. E.N. (Posts: 2565; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
see you guys aren't thinking. When they said unified search, I'm pretty sure they are talking about some kind of algorithm that searches many different areas in the web for an answer and then brings down the correct/best-fitted one. Just because they said "unified search" doesn't mean its the same kind of unified search found in the home screens of android/ios/palm. Its a different kind of unified search.
I'm guessing that the original creators of Siri, had certain patents that Apple couldn't get around, which explain why they purchased the company because I think Apple would have rather built it on their own.
143. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
either that or they had NO development going, and just bought an answer.
146. tedkord (Posts: 7214; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Do you know what Apple's unified search Algorithm for siri is? They feed the question to Wolfram Alpha, someone else's product. That's it.
Apple doesn't think in those specific terms. They steal something like swipe to unlock, patent it, then declare it covers all gestures for unlocking. Sense on HTC devices now has 4 links on the lockscreen which you drag into a circle to go directly to those apps, or you drag the circle anywhere to go to the homescreen. Apple claims that violat es their swipe to unlock patent.
142. tedkord (Posts: 7214; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Look, the Siri argument is tired. Siri is not AI, its not revolutionary. All Apple did was stick text to speech and some canned responses onto a Wolfram Alpha search agent. The canned responses are for when Wolfram Alpha returns answers Apple doesn't like.
The market was heading this way all along, to a talking back agent. Vlingo was heading that way well before Apple. It was obvioos, just like increasing screen resolution or increasing processor speed/cores. Apple knew Android OEMs were working on this, so they bought out Siri, rushed it to production to be first, and that's why you have a half-baked beta like Siri from a company that supposedly doesn't release anything until its ready.
144. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what!?!?! you mean its not a revolutionary AI thats lightyears ahead of other voice command systems!??! OMG!
the iNuts are going to burn you at the stake for such blasphemy.. lol.
134. zhypher_23 (Posts: 195; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
They know without a doubt that their "loyal" customers will keep on buying because of the hype, and they feel high tech if they have them, not like android, every upgrade is not similar like their next versions of phones.
7. moofoodooloo (Posts: 137; Member since: 04 Jan 2011)
So the phone will be delayed one week, and the S3 is going to garner millions worth of free publicity like the EVO LTE did? Come on Apple.
88. E.N. (Posts: 2565; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
lol true, but most people don't keep up with these suits
104. JcHnd (Posts: 81; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
most people dont actually care... as someone said already, this is like seeing the sun come up... we know that even when they ban the s3 or not... will always be sold somehow... so it's nothing to worry
8. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 419; Member since: 07 May 2012)
apple sicks somach always trying anything to stiffle the competition,i like apple products but seriously apple,this is gwtting from bad to worst. am i the only one who think all these lawsuits from apple should stop!!!
90. E.N. (Posts: 2565; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
what if samsung actually (and knowingly) infringed on some of these patents? I think this is a possibility that most people are failing to grasp.
11. morganboy0 (Posts: 5; Member since: 23 Apr 2010)
Okay apple. This really has to stop now. Enough. Geesh.
19. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 6459; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
As soon as Android stops copying off everyone, then the lawsuits will stop.
21. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3061; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
You mean, as soon as Android stops being a threat/competition the lawsuits will stop.
47. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Have you EVER been thumbed up by anyone besides yourself?
58. ph00ny (Posts: 721; Member since: 26 May 2011)
Notification from Android
Messaging from Blackberry
Social Network integration/cloud service/camera enhancement from WP7
12. christianqwerty (Posts: 463; Member since: 05 May 2011)
Apple, i love you and all, but your making it really hard to defend you ....
13. becazican (Posts: 52; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
apple use to make microsoft the demon, now its apple being the demon. i use to love apple products but would never buy another one.
14. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 209; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)
at least samsung is doing everything it can to ensure a timely release.
15. DroogV59 (Posts: 37; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)
Alan F. - for purposes of full disclosure, you should reveal exactly how much Apple pays you to carry their water.
`...Apple looks like a severely injured party` is certainly not anything that a neutral journalist would write.
16. theBankRobber (Posts: 653; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)
When you use voice commands on android, you need a data connection for it to work. So im not sure they think they have a patent for unified search for Siri when they purchased a Siri from a app developer. Google won't like this, Apple thinks they can sue other companies for features they have used well before them. Can't wait for Motorola to really bust Apples balls.
22. brianreigh (Posts: 7; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)
I'm actually gonna kill someone if they ban the Galaxy S III from the states... and I ain't even kidding
175. bayusuputra (Posts: 961; Member since: 12 Feb 2012)
some apple lawyer maybe? just to give you a heads-up..
24. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4173; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
How about instead of paying lawyers to sue the pants off of your competition, you spend that money to make advances in technology to put in your own devices Apple? This is getting ridiculous.
25. RCMizK3w1 (Posts: 15; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)
Is there a Android device that apple hasten tried to ban in the past 6 months?
26. sprockkets (Posts: 1573; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
1. Apple buys up company doing "new tech"
2. Makes it popular and patents it
3. Sues anyone else who tries to integrate such a feature even while that feature is still widely available via competitors before apple took it up
4. Rinse, repeat.
27. Xquisite (Posts: 87; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
As much as I hate Apple, a business is a business. If filing all these motions against phones makes them money, then do you Apple. But it would much more respectable if instead of trying to deal with the problem, they try and get rid of the problem.
It's like having an issue with a person, and instead of trying to work it out you kill them.
Bad analogy and post, I apologize.
43. Sackboy117 (Posts: 178; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
You don't see the Call of Duty companies suing other FPSs. . . and they'rs like Apple, recycle same game for past 5 years, and yet people still buy them (although i love CoD :D).
CoD may have many haters and copiers, but they take it like a soldier and put up with the competition cuz they know how to make business in the REAL world while still being respectable and fair.
128. jroc74 (Posts: 5408; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Yea....Apple is probably the only company I know of that goes to these lengths. I dont see Samsung suing Acer, or LG over monitors and TV's. I dont see alot oc car lawsuits...and about 5-10 years ago all cars started looking like other cars. The Bently clone, Hyundia looking like Jaguars, etc.
Apple needs to get out the mobile OS business. I wonder.....why dont they spend time trying to sue MS for Windows features?
31. phnrpt (Posts: 14; Member since: 28 May 2012)
we, the consumer fed up apple and at&t.
now, these two giant monster turn back to hurt us.
33. wendygarett (unregistered)
just wake up in the morning and saw htc loss in sales, this is wonderful, and now this? This is so good to be true...
Message from ifan... Bitch!! If you think this is ridiculous
121. Pancholo (Posts: 380; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Why must you be so moody? There's an accessory that transforms your iPhone into an iKotex. It's washable.
170. W.P._Android_in_that_Order (Posts: 208; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
iKotex? iPad? Whats the difference really?
34. The.Average.Fanboy (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
This is a bit extreme. I can understand that Apple is irritated that Samsung is introducing S-Voice not too long after their prized Siri introduction, but it's really not sufficient to BAN a device. Especially a device that's SUPPOSED to compete with the iPhone. I'm a pretty big follower of Apple, and I've got to say this is disappointing. *Sigh* Apple....You lost your innovation a long time ago, and since then you've become a greedy giant...
35. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 419; Member since: 07 May 2012)
android doesnt copy anyone ,android develops and apple mass advertises it as their own innovation with a diff name,then u apple fans say apple is the innovater,wish u all could open ur eyes and see,stop dreaming.
37. tedkord (Posts: 7214; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
" The iPhone manufacturer's motion noted that press reports say that 9 million units of the Samsung Galaxy S III have been pre-ordered (a claim, by the way, that came from a Samsung executive), making the phone the "the most extensively "preordered piece of consumer electronics in history." By bringing that up, Apple looks like a severely frightened party."
There, I fixed that for you.
39. italiapride503 (Posts: 13; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
I've f**king had it up to here with Apple...as soon I found out that the s3 is going to have s voice...the thought that came into my head was that Apple was going to fight them on it...Apple needs to get off their lazy asses and come up with better technology...Android dominates hands down...they need better engineers to be advanced above anything else...Android seems to be the ones to coming up with the better technologies than Apple...yes Apple perfects their software, but it doesn't even work half of the time anyways...
41. Ivan6479 (Posts: 248; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
Wow looks like Apple is scared of the competition. Maybe their precious iPhone 5 doesn't have much to be able to compete with the GS3, so they're trying to do what they can to keep it off the market. Lol Too funny!! Kind of ironic seeing how Apple is going to Samsung for it's new processors.
48. tedkord (Posts: 7214; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Not much to compete? It's going to have a bigger, 16:9 screen. You wait, next year all android phones will copy this...wait. What?
81. nagabiru003 (Posts: 11; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)
then surely they will have that 16:9 screen ratio on a mobile device patented, and start to sue again
42. ekia007 (Posts: 61; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Idiot! Apple trying to bann all the High-End Android Smartphones? ridiculous! They've already earned pile of cash. This should really stop now. Not to mention they copies every single andriod features.
46. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7030; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
JEEZES Apple STFU thousands of people are already PRE ORDER the SG III. Don't you fcking DARE DO THIS TOO. and I knew this shyt was coming. a lot of people are going to be piss of they don't GET THEIR phone like what happened to the ONE X AND LTE EVO
52. mikiemon (Posts: 13; Member since: 01 Feb 2012)
Apple's court documents state that 9 million have been pre-ordered in the U.S. since June 6. Apple is scared and they should be.
108. mas11 (Posts: 1033; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Samsung has the $ to protect itself. By total assets Samsung is 3x bigger than Apple. Samsung won't allow themselves to be pushed around.
50. tedkord (Posts: 7214; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
JFC. I really hope that Android notification patent comes through soon, and Android gets a ban on all Apple products. And Apple has to go back to their s**ttty old notifications.
51. korean411 (Posts: 42; Member since: 04 May 2009)
For the love of god who didn't see this coming. everyone knew this was gonna happen sooner or later. this stuff about apple suing a bunch of companies is getting more ridiclous. i mean come on now what you want samsung to do, do nothing and not make a phone. i mean i like competition in the technology but this is getting out of hand. i mean you don't see companies suing apple year after year. the only thing i think apple didn't sue samsung over is the galaxy note but seriously apple should stop being wining and move on with the times because they can't win them all. i mind you i respect both companies.
53. thachlel (Posts: 75; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
What do you guys expecting? Steve Jobs is no longer with Apple ... that's the rest apple developers know how to do ...picking at people aaash lmao
55. GeekMovement (Posts: 1914; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Pathetic Apple, they're too scared of competition.
56. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Jesus H christ. Apple couldnt be any more of a pathetic troll if it tried. No wonder the biggest loser trolls on the site are all apple nuts. Its a culture of stupidity, greed, selfishness, and hypocritical actions.
The whole "Tim Cook says he doesnt like lawsuits" bullshyt just flew out the window. I see his public "nice guy" face didnt last too long.
Go to hell apple.. just go to hell. Seriously, your trying to ban what would probably be half of all androids that would be sold this year. Get a life.
You better hope that dropdown notification patent doesnt come through soon, or google might give it to Moto and have your entire OS banned from sale across the globe in retaliation.
I hate lawyers, but this OBVIOUSLY isnt going to stop until someone paints apple into a corner.
57. sammy_saw (Posts: 28; Member since: 07 Jan 2012)
How come that every time there a new android phone come out on the market there almost a lawsuit comming for apple ? This is harassment .
59. Whateverman (Posts: 3236; Member since: 17 May 2009)
It time for Google to quit playing defense and switch to all offense from now until Tim Cook says uncle. I think S Voice is an obvious and profoundly stupid move on Samsung's part to copy...yes I said copy...Siri! But Siri isn't all that patent worthy. Other than a horrible attempt at giving a personality, Siri doesn't do much different from voice actions other than pull up a widget...yea I said widget... of whatever task you ask it to do. "Siri...what's the weather like?". Siri puts up a widget similar to the ones we have been using on Android devices for years. Nice product, very nice execution, but nothing worthy of protecting from Google. Just ask the iPhone owners who are now suing Apple!
What Google needs to do is buy an iPhone, study it for any Motorola patent infringements, take that patent and go BALLS-DEEP on Apple and the little phone too! (Sorry to the respectful iOS fans out there. Just venting.)
60. 1ceTr0n (Posts: 545; Member since: 20 May 2012)
OH FOR FVCKS SAKE APPLE!! GET A MOTHER FVCKING LIFE!!!!!
61. xcasasx (Posts: 24; Member since: 03 Mar 2012)
If apple keeps this up they'll want to sue sammy for having white colored phones or even just making phones , f**k apple hop of sammy's d**k