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Apple security team members might have searched home for missing iPhone 5 prototype, not police

0. phoneArena 03 Sep 2011, 14:42 posted on

SFWeekly went further with its investigation, and it turns out that two members of Apple's security team (possibly the same one that deals with counterfeits) were the actual people on the ground that searched the house...

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posted on 03 Sep 2011, 17:08 3

12. GBcacher (unregistered)


yeah! Apple is the law, like Judge Dredd.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 16:31

10. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


This story was updated by macrumors. The police were involved check it out. Update this pa please!http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/02/san-francisco-police-did-assist-apple-in-house-search-of-iphone-5/

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 17:51 1

13. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Thanks pa. The update was perfect.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 17:56 1

15. stealthd (unregistered)


First they say there's no investigation. Then they say there was an investigation. Until some actual evidence shows up or some charges are filed for theft or impersonating an officer, I'm calling this a hoax.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 18:28 1

17. ltr (unregistered)


ITs all about the attention.

There is barely any info on the phone itself.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 18:33 2

18. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


This is hilarious. Apple trying to be their own police now? Granted, I like how they made the offer of financial reward just for returning the phone, but come on, this is out of hand behavior.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 18:42

19. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Read the update!

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 19:27 1

21. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I read the update. It was still Apple security inside that house.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 19:43

23. stealthd (unregistered)


Searching with permission.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 19:45

24. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


It was discovered that Apple employees called Mission Police station directly, wanting assistance in tracking down a lost item. Apple had tracked the lost item to a house located in the 500 block of Anderson Street. Because the address was in the Ingleside Police district Apple employees were referred to Officers in the Ingleside district. Four SFPD Officers accompanied Apple employees to the Anderson street home. The two Apple employees met with the resident and then went into the house to look for the lost item

They went with the police and talked to the resident about looking for a stolen item. Its not like they went to his house prentending to be police with a warrent and said let me in your house.

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 20:30

27. cncrim (Posts: 878; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


I agree ...... Apple is not that crazy to personating as police, this kind of behavior will be put them in a bigger mess than patent infrigent if they do.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 01:08 3

50. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Again, you're missing the point here: it was STILL. APPLE EMPLOYEES. SEARCHING THE HOUSE. Those are actions normally reserved for police.

Now granted, I'm not really against working toward finding stolen property while minimizing the involvement of the state. In fact, hey, I'm not really against Apple here. I just think it's funny is all. Come on, admit it, it's hard to visualize Apple hero cops and secret agents doing action movie s**t without grinning. :)

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 09:58 2

60. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I admit it is pretty funny.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 11:46 1

69. roscuthiii (Posts: 2228; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


The exact problem is that the search was conducted by someone other than law enforcement. Even with consent, having the police outside means there was no one officially there. Not even an official report filed. Apple investigators could simply have pulled a phone from their pocket and come out the the police and said, "Yep! We got it! It was in there. We're pressing charges."
Or- They even could have found it in there (their tracking service did lead them there) and paid him off to keep his mouth shut.
All because there was no one in any official capacity conducting the search.
They questioned his legal status? What bearing does that even have on this incident? If anything it sounds like he consented to the search under duress. And consent under duress is inadmissable. Just ask a rape victim who was told to keep quiet whether or not that was "consent".

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 20:18 2

25. HiPhone (unregistered)


Yes the Police were there, but did the Apple Security team id themselves
as not being police? I doubt it is Apple policy, but I bet the former cop just
took it too far.
With Apples recent history, do they deserve the benefit of the doubt??

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 20:32

28. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


If you dont want to give apple the benifit of the doubt then how about the police report?

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:29 2

39. pongkie (Posts: 641; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


apple this is low...

next time you people buy apple products you get an anal probe

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:39

40. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


You can keep dreaming you nasty *******

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:42 1

41. pongkie (Posts: 641; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


really i bet you'll volunteer

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:48

42. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Dont judge me ok!

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:54 2

43. pongkie (Posts: 641; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


then shut it! don't judge me either

If apple really really really really value that phone they should have tighter control over it. And happening for the second time is purely negligence on their part and let not others take fault on this. They should stop this non sense and count their losses

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 22:59

44. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


This hole thing sounds fishy. We dont know whats really going on. Back to the anal probing. Haha i always wanted to say that :).

posted on 03 Sep 2011, 23:07

45. pongkie (Posts: 641; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)


well they are building a space ship campus all the pieces are starting to fit together :D

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 00:52 1

49. Steve Dojobs (unregistered)


I think (as my opinion) is a all Apple propaganda try to make the Iphone 5 a best seller as what happened to Iphone 4 previously.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 07:17 1

57. myclevername (Posts: 94; Member since: 07 Jun 2010)


The guy should have asked for a search warrant and since they didn't have one he should have said "come back when you do". The idiot let them in. Water under the bridge now. And they still didn't find the phone.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 10:24 2

66. Officer Bob (unregistered)


Totally out of my ars but IMHO (based off past dealings with crony militant organizations like USN and police dept's) - It was hushed because a member of the Apple Security team had a buddy he leveraged to scare someone into allowing the search..

I imagine if you examine the law, it's not illegal if the home owner provides permission.
So, 4 people flash a badge (two are Apple security badges), and only two people identify themselves as SF PD. Certainly would lead anyone to believe they were all SF PD. No witnesses for the defense except the one guy who's word against 2 upstanding officers and 2 upstanding clean cut corporate guys...of course they will all say the home owner gave us explicit permission to search.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 11:57 1

70. roscuthiii (Posts: 2228; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Exactly.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 10:49 1

67. rick (unregistered)


HEY STEVE JOBS and all of APPLE!

HOPE THE CANCER EATS YOUR HEART OUT AND YOU SUFFER. YOUR A PIECE OF s**t AND THIS GOES TO SHOW WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS CAPABLE OF. Its A phone, You have no right to enter someones home and play policeman. You are not ABOVE the LAW, ROT IN HELL!

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 22:23

80. hepresearch (unregistered)


wow... that's just classy. Yeah, hate on the guy with cancer! I don't like what Apple does, but I'm not going to let that boil over into spewing hate or wishing some cancer-ridden dude would die.

Even if I had an enemy, I wouldn't wish death by cancer upon them.

posted on 04 Sep 2011, 11:04 1

68. luke9966 (unregistered)


Why would you want to buy irresponsible products and the sames scenerior like last iphone launch. It's sound like a brand of a propraganda of promote their brands and by other human manuer again.

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