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Apple says Samsung set a patent timebomb when the 3G standard was created to demand "excessive" royalties

0. phoneArena 26 Sep 2011, 09:27 posted on

Samsung is suing to stop the sales and marketing of Apple's gizmos, including the iPhone 5, in the Netherlands, but Apple argues it has sneaked in some of its own IP in the 3G standard, so it can patent it later and sue...

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posted on 26 Sep 2011, 12:56 2

48. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


i hear that every year... still waiting for it to happen... specially when is the most profitable comaony in the US... keep waiting ..dude

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 13:10 2

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Every year fanboys proclaim the end for Apple and how this new platform or phone is the iPhone killer lol. Pathetic.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 19:37 3

161. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


the iphone killer came out 3 years ago, we call it android.

or havent you noticed the double market penetration in less time.. or the fact that double android devices are being bought than iOS right now?
where have u been!?

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 13:30 5

64. Daniel2324 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


May I ask, how many jobs apple has created for the American people being the most profitable company in the US?

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 13:35

65. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


They're now in the works of building a 12,000 employee campus in Cupertino. They also have retail stores and call centers all over the US. So my guess would be at least around 20,000 jobs. How many does Samsung create in the US?

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:03 4

76. Daniel2324 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


wow... thats only 2 percent of 1 million people they employ in foxconn.
as for your question in how many people does samsung employ in the US, well I have no idea, but im certain that they employ over a 100 thousand in korea.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:27 3

83. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Apple employees 1 million at foxconn? You sure about that? You do realize foxconn isn't owned by Apple so not all their jobs are Apple related. Apple subcontracts to them.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:42 4

88. Daniel2324 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


taco try using google.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 15:10 1

102. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Here you go bud:

Foxconn makes consumer electronics for a number of well-known companies, including:

Apple Inc. (United States)[16]
Acer Inc. (Taiwan)
Amazon.com (United States)[17]
Asus (Taiwan)
ASRock (Taiwan)
Intel (United States)
Cisco (United States)
Hewlett-Packard (United States)[18]
Dell (United States)
Nintendo (Japan)
Nokia (Finland)[16]
Microsoft (United States)
MSI (Taiwan)
Motorola (United States)
Sony Ericsson (Japan/Sweden)[19]
Vizio (United States)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn



Hey sniggly where are you?!! Foxconn makes Motorola products too! Are you still outraged at how workers are treated there? Remix?

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 19:36 3

160. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


The only one I use on that list right now is.. umm.. Dell. That was the last product i purchased on that list, was this dell computer im typing on. If it was made at foxconn, i dont know for sure.

Now, Foxconn is a s**t company by any moral standard. I doubt they treat any of their workers all that well. But when was the last time you heard of mass suicides at the nokia or nintendo plant? Why is it only Apple plants that explode and have saftey nets for jumpers??

That is the difference.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 20:23

165. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well considering Apple doesn't run or own the plants you're assuming that other workers for some reason have better working conditions the Apple's even though they are all part of the same company. Also in reading up on this Apple did their own investigations after the suicides and now does inspections to make sure they have good working conditions.


I'm sure to you that's not good enough.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 21:40 1

171. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Taco- At last count, it was about 13,000 here in the US and 48,000 worldwide. Gotta give them credit for keeping the engineers and programmers employees, but it would be nice to see some of those manufacturing jobs here. Maybe help the middle class out a little, but all the corporate welfare and tax loopholes here, I can't see any company building anything here in the next few years to come.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 21:44 2

173. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


And those numbers don't include Foxconn employees. But what's really embarrassing is that Samsung employs more Americans than Apple.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 22:44

176. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Can you show some proof Samsung employees more Americans than Apple? Considering Apple is building a 12,000 person campus which doesn't include retail or call centers they employee a lot more than 13,000 or will be soon anyway. I pulled up a recent study that showed Apple employeed 14,000 just for their iPod business.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 01:31 2

185. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Dude, I'm using what looks to be the same not-so-reliable source it appears you are using, Wikipedia. I just read that 14,000 jobs were PRODUCED because of the iPod as of 2006. Now, when I quoted a source from 2007, you said it was too old. Now you're using sources even older then mine? (That called a Double Standard) But that was when they were making iPods here. Where do you thing they make them now??? Hint: All of those nice manufacturing jobs were moved to a tiny little country with a LOT of people. Probably why is says since 2006 and not 2011.

As for the Samsung head count, I found it at glassdoor.com a few weeks ago. All of Samsung's companies are listed separately, so I will not be going through them for you. But fee free to take a look for yourself. They have offices and factories in

Dallas, TX
Austin, TX
Plano, TX
Ridgefield Park, NJ
Bridgewater, NJ
Fairfax, VA
San Jose, CA
Irvine, CA

And a bunch more, so you'll have to go through them all one-by-one. But wouldn't it be worth it to prove me wrong for once?

Oh BTW, the offer for the free iPhone 5 is still on the table if you can prove that I said what you claim I said about pirating software. Times a-wastin', you only have 361 days left to find your proof and claim your brand new shinny!

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 02:20 1

186. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Can you post even one link of Samsung having more US jobs than Apple?

I can list random cities too. It doesn't prove anything.

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 05:21 1

187. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


You just typewww.glassdoor.com. This was not an article stating this. It was me looking a company profiles, and looking at the number of employees they had. Knock yourself out there bud!

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 19:34 2

158. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


since they have some large arms of multiple parts of samsung, including phones, electronics, hardware, construction equipment, ect in America, id say its safe to say at least as many if not more. I've been looking but I cant find any hard data anywhere.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 20:51

167. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


exactly you know this even though you have zero evidence to back it up.

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:04 1

77. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I could tell you but is irrelevant to the topic... sir..are you too dumb to stay on topic...?... how many jobs have you created..?... Next... please...

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:13 3

80. Daniel2324 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


not much. a few people.
my driver, a nanny. My 9 staff for my convenient store.
My point is your all praises to a company ( an american company ) that would not even create that much job for you people.
and btw galitoking youre off topic aswell when youre praising apple being the most profitable company in the US.
let me remind you that the Topic here was about samsung suing apple for the 3G related IP's.

PS. how many jobs have you created?

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 16:54

123. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


nop I answer a question that Apple was fading.. read please hate to rephrase... and i answer that is not going aways becuase when a company is profitable.. it lives... jejeje... I know is hard for you to understand... is ok...

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 15:05 3

100. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


and i hear every year the next iphone is going to crush android but im still waiting...hope neither go anytime soon they both bring something different for different people

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 19:08

150. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


we finally agree Taz89.. as long are in business .. innovations will move at a faster pace

posted on 27 Sep 2011, 19:12

198. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


competition is always good...i dont hate ios or android or wp7 etc...i have an ip4 and gs2 had a a n96 before...plan to get a wp7 once nokia release theres...i dont like to have the same os all the time like to have a change now and then...i just get annoyed when someone says i hope ios dies,android dies etc etc...end of the day everyone is diffierent and will have different taste just as we do with food,cloths and cars..if we all were the same then life would be so crap lol

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 13:09 2

55. jacko (unregistered)


Steve head job must be Hitler's son coz they both don't like people having freedom of choice
and taco and other isheep i used an is**t and there nothing to brag about and sold it after only having it for 2 weeks and i been buying top of the line androids ever since

i like up to date phones aka android
not a 2008 phone aka is**t

and i like blackberrys best email device EVER

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 13:40 2

70. Whateverman (Posts: 3271; Member since: 17 May 2009)


@ taco50. Banning products isn't the answer for Samsung or Apple. Getting any company's products banned for the ridiculous reasons Apple gave was just plain silly. And although I understand why Samsung made this move, I would hope this is merely a move to get Apple to drop their lawsuit. I don't want to see Apples products any less then seeing Samsung's banned. They all need to work this crap out like adults and quit mud-slingin'!

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 14:11 3

78. gallitoking (Posts: 4720; Member since: 17 May 2011)


I agree banning products is wrong... and not the answer...

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 15:08 1

101. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


its comments like these that just shows you are an apple lover...why would you want choices taken away...not everyone will like and ios just like everyone will not like android etc...im guessing you want a world where there is no choice but apple which is just sad...no matter whatever your a fan of,choice is always better than no choice

posted on 26 Sep 2011, 15:18 3

106. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I'm being facetious about other manufacturers being banned. I don't really want that. I realize competition is good for us all.

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