Apple patents the Active Stylus for iOS

8. Droid_X_Doug posted on 31 Dec 2012, 19:59 9

This is going to be a fight between hardware (iApple) and software (S-Pen). With processor power being so much greater than it was when the patent application was submitted, I suspect this is so much ado about nothing. With screen resolution of 441 ppi in the upcoming 1080p screens, software can be tuned to address any 'lag'. The 'active' stylus is more suited for low resolution (640x480?) applications.

11. 14545 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:09 0

Huh?

Active styli are nothing like using a capacitive stylus. So I'm not sure what you are saying here. You can't get the accuracy out of a capacitive stylus, that you can out of an active one.

14. Droid_X_Doug posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:27 0

Capacitive stylus interrupts at the individual line level, right? If so, then software can be written to control the interruption events. If not, I still don't see active trumping capacitive, because the application developer just implements an OS feature for zooming, much like what is available with Chrome - if your finger clicks on two selection options, the selection immediately zooms in a dialog box for the user to choose from.

Plus, how is the active stylus powered? Hearing aid batteries?

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36. Dr.Phil posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:25 3

It will be interesting to see if this Apple patent bumps up against any patents that Wacom has had for a while now. Also, I have yet to have any accuracy problems even with my first-generation Note. I am sure there will be even less problems if the Note III has this in it:

http://www.patentbolt.com/2012/06/samsung-invents-next-generation-stylus-pen.html

"The new stylus pen apparently uses the micro-current of the human body to allow the multi-touch screen to think it's a finger. This translates into the stylus pen having the same fluidity as you would get using your finger on a multitouch tablet yet with a finer tip. This could take out some of the lag that is traditionally associated with older generations of stylus pens."

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29. PhenomFaz posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:16 18

What Lag??!!!
I am a proud owner of a Note 2 and I dont have any lag in my device so what the heck does this activ stylus provide that my S-Pen doesn't?
And oh oh Apple finally going tthe Samsung way...i am definitely gonna be seeing the presentation for this device...and I will love it when Apple has to swallow its pride and make some crappy excuse for embracing the stylus and Oh My Dear Fans of the Fruit...how they're gonna be jumping up and down at the slim chance that they're getting to take a punch at the Note series...this is gonna be so funny I feel sorry for Apple and its loyal fruity pebble fan following!

35. XiphiasGladius posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:24 6

I bet the next gen iPhone will have that "Active Stylus" & it'll be magical and revolutionary all over again. ^__^

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73. darac posted on 01 Jan 2013, 03:23 5

Exactly, WHAT LAG??
S Pen is really fast and accurate

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16. MeoCao (unregistered) posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:28 19

What Jobs said: "we INVENTED multitouch"?

I just can't stop laughing.

28. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:16 0

To litigate and Xerox others™

31. linneti15 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:19 8

"good artists copy, great artists steal" ;)

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65. Hemlocke (unregistered) posted on 01 Jan 2013, 00:32 0

You shouldn't be, since that is fact. The inventors of multitouch started a company that is a wholly owned part of Apple, Inc. Apple holds THE multitouch patent.

87. tedkord posted on 01 Jan 2013, 16:13 3

His point stands. Apple did not, in fact, invent multi touch. Steve Jobs lied.

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102. jroc74 posted on 06 Jan 2013, 10:08 0

If thats the case...I guess we can say Google invented any patents they got in the Motorola deal, right?

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42. Igneel posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:50 2

The S pen tech is a tech borrowed from Wacom. Wacom already got them patented years ago.

9. Droid_X_Doug posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:01 1

Can we say invalid (prior art)?

12. JcHnd posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:09 2

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=history+of+pen+computing

15. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:28 0

Thank you broseph. You see Apple's name all over the history of pen computing. 0 Android companies in there.

37. linneti15 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:26 0

Yea because juries really pay attention to prior art in a US courtroom aha... they've gotten patent's on flexible devices, cover flow, page turning and if im not mistaken from memory, something very similar to project glass? and now this oh god what has the world come to

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53. networkdood posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:00 4

Exactly

60. tedkord posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:33 3

When has prior art ever stopped Apple from suing?

66. Hemlocke (unregistered) posted on 01 Jan 2013, 00:34 1

The S-Pen is only a Samsung name for a Wacom product.

21. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 20:52 2

rolling or trolling?

27. TROLL (limited) 5 days ago posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:12 0

Both™®©

25. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:07 0

Post #7.

Apple had a stylus device way before any android company.

32. cripton805 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:20 4

PDAs had a stylus before any cell phone!

33. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:22 0

Pretty much. Apple Newton had a stylus in the late 1980's. Unfortunately most fandroids here sucks when it comes to tech history.

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40. cripton805 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:39 2

What was that, a Pencil?

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41. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:44 3

Yup a stylus which when used on device it was meant to be used "sucked" royally as handwriting analysis failed and as usual Jobs killed what Scully brought in and now Cook reviving what Scully tried to make a big money out of and faield to do so .... read the blunders of Apple and enjoy the ride from newton to maps --

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/sep/24/apple-maps-problems-list

Sure fandroids suck faaaaar less than those who feel fandroids suck when it comes to tech history. BTW was that newton stylus for capactitive screens? :)

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43. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:51 0

Thank you broski for confirming that Apple had a stylus device since before some of you were born.

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45. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 22:08 3

So what's your point? My point is why does Apple patent it only after Sammy showed that what Jobs talked was crap and here's what spen (stylus being generic term) can do ... astylus, istylus doesn;t matter ... point is Apple is stealing big time now that they are 2 years "LAGGING" in race :)

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46. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 22:20 0

Who's beating Apple when it comes to mobile profits?

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47. rusticguy posted on 31 Dec 2012, 22:30 7

So why are you diverting from topic? A Drug peddler/Drug lord/Drug Mafia also earns lots and lots of profits on every gram sold.

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50. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 22:47 2

McDonalds also sells the most hamburgers. They're winning the race alright.

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71. cripton805 posted on 01 Jan 2013, 01:59 0

So Android is McDonalds because theyre selling on more phones than iOS globally. Ok. I guess your analogy makes some sense...

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85. willard12 posted on 01 Jan 2013, 14:47 1

Unlike Mcdonald's, Apple doesn't sell the most phones or smart phones. That means in order to have the most profit, they have to sell cheap products for high prices....a.k.a. gouging thoughtless consumers.

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48. shuaibhere posted on 31 Dec 2012, 22:33 3

Who are paying more for feature phone????
Ha ha ha....i feel bad for you..

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57. cripton805 posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:13 5

Just FYI. The stylus was born way before any Apple product ever made! Almost 20 years prior to Apple being founded.

So, unless you're around 50 years old, than even older than you... "Broski"

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59. Ninetysix posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:28 0

I know right broski. Apple released their stylus way before Samsung.

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78. protozeloz posted on 01 Jan 2013, 07:14 2

Wow you just broke a record at being retarded

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80. Ninetysix posted on 01 Jan 2013, 08:51 0

Wow have you heard of the Apple Newton? A device that had a stylus in the late 1980s/early 1990s. When did Samsung release a device with a stylus? You learn something new everyday eh?

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94. protozeloz posted on 01 Jan 2013, 21:09 0

A device that was not a phone and used a regular stylus instead of a smart one....

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89. rusticguy posted on 01 Jan 2013, 16:18 0

Stylus/Pen was first used Stylator a zone-based tablet in 1950's and then on RAND Tablets in 1960 ...

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_memoranda/2005/RM4122.pdf

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62. tedkord posted on 31 Dec 2012, 23:41 3

That was just a plain stylus, not much more like the S-pen, and the Newton was not a phone. The concept of a stylus that is more than a stylus, but a component itself was clearly copied from Samsung, coming only a year after the original Note.

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79. cripton805 posted on 01 Jan 2013, 08:20 0

Actually I think Palm was the fitst to convert their phones to a PDA like phone. Which is what a smart phone really is with a calling feature if you think about it.

If anything, Id give Palm, Motorola "aka Blackberry", OG Windows phones, credit for the reason we have these phones today.

They were true OGs and everyone else just built on top of their ideas and made it better.

Not to hate on your comment, but Samsung is not one of those until later in the game with their Windows based Omnia which was a great phone at the time.

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83. johnbftl posted on 01 Jan 2013, 12:52 1

No, Samsung was in the Windows Mobile game from the start. They had the i700 and the i830, as well as a bunch of other Windows Mobile flip phones. The Omnia was not their first venture into the Windows market.

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100. cripton805 posted on 03 Jan 2013, 10:34 0

I was digging some more. It seems like even Kyocera was in the game long before the i700 by Samsung. Whatever phones were around 2000, those were the originals. The i700 didnt come out until 2004.

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34. joey_sfb posted on 31 Dec 2012, 21:23 0

Nobody mention the A word. Why use so defensive?