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Apple orders a record 70 million to 80 million units of the Apple iPhone 6 for the initial run

0. phoneArena 21 Jul 2014, 21:05 posted on

According to a report published on Monday, Apple expects to sell a record number of Apple iPhone 6 units following the launch of the device. The report cites those familiar with Apple's plans as saying that the Cupertino tech titan is asking suppliers to produce 70 million to 80 million units of the iPhone 6. That figure combines the 4.7 inch handset, and the 5.5 inch phablet...

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posted on 22 Jul 2014, 02:37 4

45. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

2.. Nexus 5 sold more than the Nexus 4. Note 3 sold more than the Note 2. The Note 3 alone approaches 50% of all iPhone sales. Yeah hard times for Android lol.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 02:40

46. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

And everybody has unlimited data plans?

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 02:42

47. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)

"Android phones are the overpriced ones. People should get paid for using that crappy OS, being annoyed by stupid ads."

Phil, is that you?

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 03:08 1

49. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)

You are talking about what happened in 2013.

I was talking about what will happen in 2014~2015.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 03:18 2

50. Sreddy (unregistered)

yap, it will like rather S5 collect dust!

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 03:46 3

52. AlikMalix (unregistered)

ICS? Are you serious? I'm not even going to reply to that... But the problem with KitKat is even after all this time after the release only about 10% of android users got it (and mostly by those who bought the new phone with it installed). It does not address, but rather proves that the biggest problem that Android has is fragmentation.

Now, before you deny that there isn't read the paragraph above. Due to this fragmentation you are therefore denied any creditability that Android as an updated OS is now optimized (or whatever) because in order to make that claim majority have to be able to use it. At apple that majority standard is 85%+ (not 60%, not 51%).

For crying out loud, the next version "L" is coming out soon and KitKat is still waiting to be installed by almost all android users: what is it like half ICS/ half JB - dude, half of android users are stuck in 2010.

Delet that post, and save it - you can claim that when KitKat reaches 5 times the penetration it has today (at least).

It's like telling everyone how cool I am that when i grow up I'll buy a Ferrari, while you still ride your bike to school.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 06:37 1

58. sgodsell (Posts: 4518; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

1 Android is far from 64bit. Well some Intel based Android devices have been using a 64bit linux kernel already. I know the VM and Java need to be updated to 64bit (Android L).

Your number 2 is wrong. Last time I looked we are still in the middle of 2014. KitKat has risen quite fast. Not to mention Android L is still going to be released in 2014. Saturation is high for all smart phones. Because for a while now smart phones have been out selling feature phones. Not to mention prices have dropped on mid and low end devices making them worth it to get for a ton of people. Why do you think Motorola has had a great year with a low priced moto g phone. Not to mention all the OEMS have been making great low and mid range smart phones at reasonable prices. Please explain why 233 million Android devices sold in Q1 2014 with the largest share going to Samsung. Only 43 million iPhones, and 7.6 million WP.

5 java doesn't benefit much from 64 bit computing. Where did you pull that information from? Your butt. If Android didn't use Java it wouldn't be where it is today. Java makes Android hardware agnostic and will help propel it into the future. Look at project Ara, which is a perfect example of the future. No other mobile OS could do what Ara is doing if it didn't use Java and a VM. Since Android uses Java and a VM, that is why see so many architectures currently supported. Like x86, MIPS, Every Arm CPU know to man. Now even when Android L drops. Google has stated that all existing apps will benefit from 64bit CPUs without the need to recompile your Java apps. Apps for instance that use doubles, floats, longs will automatically benefit using 64bit computing.

6. Androids transition will be painful and take years. So false on that one because it is using Java and a VM. Not to mention on a number of Intel based Android devices, some OEMS have been using a 64bit Linux kernel already. I hope you do know that Linux has been 64 bit for a long long time already.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 15:53 1

59. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)

1. What are you talking about? Do you own an Intel based phone? How many people do? Kernel runs in 64bit on *prototypes*.
What's the benefit of a 64bit kernel? none.

2. I wasn't talking about KitKat.
Name me a vendor whose revnue increased in 2014 compared to 2013 time frame. Most probably none.

5. Name a single app that is ported from a different platform, and that wouldn't exist on Android if it was not written in Java. None.
Who owns Ara? No one. Did it pass FCC? no.
What's the benefit of a vaporware? none.

Did you ever take a look at the machine codes generated by JIT or ART, 32bit/64bit? Most certainly not.
Both float and double are handled by the VFP, and VFP has been a 64bit unit all the way along even on 32bit ARM to be IEEE754 compliant.
You are talking about long?
First, there aren't many occasions where you need long. Even if it's the case, it doesn't do heavy computing on this.
Second, int64 makes sense in fixed point arithmetics as temporary container. And hardly anyone bothers with fixed point when programming in Java. They almost always use float or double instead. Forcing fixed point in Java results in split registers even on 64bit ARM.
If you are writing routines where the performance is so crucial that fixed point is necessary, Java is the worst choice. People write theses routines in C or assembly.

Now that's where we are at. Do you think the apps you are using are written 100% in Java?

Stop dreaming. As soon as an app has a single external native routine call, it's over.

Fine, pure Java apps will run roughly 10~20% faster on 64bit machines.
When do they remain pure? When the performance isn't crucial.
Congrats, your phone will be waiting for your input that much faster as well as printing Hello World on the screen.

Are you writing a demanding app? Either you resort to external frameworks or invoke a third party open source library.
Great, they are hardly optimized for 64bit.
You are better served with 32bit version of them, thus forcing the WHOLE app to run in 32bit.

What's the sense here?

64bit ready? Where should I start to laugh?

6. kernel =/= OS
How many times do I have to repeat this?
Kernel-only 64bit is a joke. Majority of the data the kernel deals with consist of addresses. With their sizes doubled, a 64bit kernel is slower than a 32bit one.

When do you think the share of 64bit-feasible Android's share will become the majority?
How long did it take for ICS+ to hit the 50% mark?

4 years.

Android's transition will take that long.

FYI, iOS6+'s current share is at 95+%, iOS6 being the official minimum requirement for 64bit apps.

Quite a comparison, right?

Even after 4 years, app developers will have it hard finding any compelling reason to support 64bit Android.

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:24 1

4. Derekjeter (Posts: 1047; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)

Not enough.

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:28 2

7. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)

Agreed. They should at least seven billion for every single person in the world.

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:50 1

17. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

hahaha and I would still not buy even if they offer it for free ;)

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:57 2

19. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)

Apple just has to dominate the high end segment.
Stuck to the low budget market, Android vendors will starve.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 01:54 1

43. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

No matter how much you are writing about Apple on every article. Your fruit company doesn't even give a damn who the hell you are.

So stop being Apple's bitch and grow up. I laugh when I read your comments mate.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 02:46 2

48. Sreddy (unregistered)

does your company give a damn about you then? lol .. the motive of giving features to users is also tht they can make money, youre just stupid, not able to realise that. dont think that they thinking of you, theyre thinking of themselves..

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 04:00 1

53. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

Hahahah another buthurt iFan hahahaha. For you guys Apple is your God hahahahaha

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 04:07 1

55. Sreddy (unregistered)

^ lol .. apple, atleast not samsung :P

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 06:22

56. givemespecs (unregistered)

that's right you wouldn't because 'buy' technically means...to pay for!

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:25 3

5. wilsong17 (unregistered)

Ifan Be Like Les Make THe Line

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 04:01

54. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

Yeah they would even line up if Apple release a new charger for their phones :p

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:27 2

6. tettech (Posts: 69; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)

I won't be one of those millions buying the new model. Contract doesn't end till 2015. Perhaps, I'll give iWatch or whatever it's gonna be called a try.

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 22:23

23. willard12 (Posts: 1960; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)

Hopefully, iwatch capability will come to your version of ios 8. Not all versions of ios 8 will be created equally.

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:37

12. brasstax (Posts: 353; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)

Note 4 is a feature phone?. And this comment from an iPhone fan.

Biggest joke of human history

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:44

14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10457; Member since: 14 May 2012)


posted on 21 Jul 2014, 21:49

15. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)

It's laden with features (what some would call "bloat"). So yes, the Note 4 is the supreme feature phone. You should be proud. :)

posted on 21 Jul 2014, 23:44

32. TheMoltenD (Posts: 109; Member since: 13 Jul 2014)

He thought you meant it was one of those crappy feature carrier phones not a feature packed phone.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 03:25

51. superduper (Posts: 151; Member since: 20 Oct 2013)

But it is a crappy feature carrier-branded phone. :D

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 00:00

35. CreeDiddy (Posts: 954; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)

What this spells for Apple is a 15 billion dollar quarter in profit. The first in mobile industry history. Also roughly 300-400 million iPhones sold by Sept 2015.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 01:47

41. Cicero (Posts: 913; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)

I see here big expectations from Apple fans. Be prepared also for dark side of the moon. It can happen like always do.

posted on 22 Jul 2014, 06:33 2

57. givemespecs (unregistered)

Lots of hate going on both ways here. I've had Android, WP and iOS and the only OS I have not been tempted to leave is iOS. I can't properly explain why, but it just does everything I want it to do simply and effortlessly. The iPhone 5S is a bit too small for me, but the LG G2 was way too big, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Apple keeps those bezels as small as possible to minimise the increase in device size.

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