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Apple may be crowd-sourcing ideas for iPhone 4S battery problems

0. phoneArena 28 Oct 2011, 18:27 posted on

There have been widespread reports of Apple's new iPhone 4S having trouble keeping a charge, and now it seems that Apple may be reaching out to users to find a solution to the problem...

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posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:16 1

47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I used someone that I said had issues so you have no point. Run along fandroid. Don't you have some software to pirate?

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 00:01 7

87. Whateverman (Posts: 3224; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Haha! The truth hurts huh? You don't like being called out either I see. Have you found that article where I said I pirate apps yet? Don't forget if you find it, you get a FREE iphone 4S! Don't you want a free upgrade??? Post the link and claim your prize! Or be exposed AGAIN, as a liar. :)

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 01:33 3

106. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Just let him"backpedal"

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:57

85. Pdubb (Posts: 239; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


I also have never had a virus on my Win7 laptop. My wife either so it's not like ther are problems with getting a virus on Windows. (See how funny that sounds when you take a small sample of people that like their devices.)

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 09:59 1

132. gtrxman (Posts: 111; Member since: 10 Sep 2011)


No issue happens to everyone. Take a car for example. If there's a faulty brake line in 5% of the cars, it hasn't affected everyone, but it is a problem none the less. Given the number of people experiencing the issue, I would without doubt say that it's a problem.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:00 1

35. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)


I still believe its software related and not the device itself... I noticed my iPad was getting less battery life after the software update too.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:03 2

44. roscuthiii (Posts: 1836; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's software related. I friend of mine with an iPhone 4 upgraded her iOS and lost a lot of her data. Contacts I think. There's definitely a software bug.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:19 2

68. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Could be true...gingerbread on the android phones does improve battery life....knowing how to mod also can help battery life.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 01:43 2

107. saiki4116 (Posts: 356; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)


yes,gingerbread improves batterylife.2.3.5 update is very mean

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 19:35 2

21. redmd (Posts: 896; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


This issue in iOS 5 itself. After updating, my ipod touch 4th gen became power hungry.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 19:38 1

24. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)


Right. It's definitely not a design flaw with the device. It's the OS. It needs some bugs worked out.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 00:38

95. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2677; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Most people with other devices haven't been complaining of the issue though. Obviously iOS 5 will drain battery a bit faster because of all the persisten services, but the degree of the problem seems to be much worse on the 4S. That would point to either a hardware issue, or an issue with SIri, since those are the only differences.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 04:03 1

113. remixfa (Posts: 13933; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


its probably a combination of bad power management in the OS since they are just now adding support for dual cores.. Siri's constant connection, iCloud, and all the other syncing going on.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 19:49 1

31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


It's funny to see the fandroids in here talking about battery life when you guys don't even get half a day. It's bad battery life for an iPhone which is still way better that any android phone.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:26 7

40. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Its 9:25pm where I am and I've been up since about 7:45am, to be exact my phone says 13 hrs 42 minutes since unplugged. I have the Thunderbolt on the stock rom, not rooted, and have had Bluetooth and LTE on the entire time.

Bye taco

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:21 1

50. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Nice try I had the thunderbolt and unless you didn't use it at all it doesn't last that long

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:43 7

57. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Nice try but your poor knowege about android proves you wrong

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:45 5

58. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I'll take a screenshot if you really want...

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:48

59. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Yes :D

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:51 2

60. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


As I mentioned I am not rooted so I just took a picture of the screen, where can I host it for free? Or can I email it to you proto to show...

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:59 6

61. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Here, I know it's hard to read but it says 15 hours at this point. You can also see that since I was on LTE all day I was checkin out the speeds in several locations.

http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd424/iamcc88/20111028_224608.jpg


And before you comment about the fact that it doesn't show LTE connection it's because I don't have LTE service in my apartment yet. But the phone is set to LTE/CDMA.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:53

73. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


that doesn't show how long the phone has been off the charger

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:07 6

75. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Really? I thought it said "15hr 3min since unplugged" at the top. I guess I could be wrong but my understanding of the English language is pretty good.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:11

79. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


it's blanked out pretty much by the light, 24% is used by your speed test app? that seems fishy is that all you do on your phone is speed tests?

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 01:10

103. p0rkguy (Posts: 684; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)


I think it's the fact that he doesn't have any background services that actually hog up a lot of data.
Chances are he has most of his stuff disabled with a requirement of manual refreshes.
Hell if I were to disable data on my phone and only turn it on when needed, I could last days. Thing is, I don't and constantly have IM+, gmail, facebook, weather, latitude, dropbox, google voice always running in the background.
I only lost 38% for the 10 hours I'm at work, where it's generally idling. I'm on CM7 N225.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 04:03 3

114. remixfa (Posts: 13933; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


taco had a thunderbolt??? lol yea right.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 00:40

96. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2677; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Do you ever even use your phone? Or do you ever use LTE? There is no way that kind of battery life is possible on a Thunderbolt unless you never use LTE, and you don't use your phone that much either.

I have a Nexus One and I have to carry an extra battery at all times, because I tear through a charge in about 7 hours on average. Granted, I do likely use my phone more than the average person.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 01:08

102. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


the cpu architecture is old on the nexus. try upgrading to the old cpu tech of the nexus s. i was getting 6-8hours heavy days and 13+ on regular days

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 04:05

115. remixfa (Posts: 13933; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ive never seen a thunderbolt get that much either.

the nexus uses the battery hungry S1 and the thunderbolt is only slightly better with its S2, but it also has LTE and an undersized battery.

My SGS1 goes all day and into the next with regular to heavy usage. I even used it for a wifi hotspot for 3 hrs on monday and It still had 30% left when i plugged it in at 11pm (took it off at 8am that morning)

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 09:04 3

122. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


I do not have background services turned off and as I have mentioned in other threads my phone is primarily used for phone calls and texting, little to no web browsing is done. For the sake of proving I am not lying I will post another picture at the end of today if you like. Normally I get about 10-12 hours and when that shot was taken I only had ten percent left.

I will say, other than my exchange email account I don't have much going on. My point was just that tacos comment of Android phones not lasting half a day is plain wrong. I have a spare battery and with what I consider "normal use" can count on one hand how many times I've used it.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:27 1

41. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


LOL not half a day?

this is the end my my day for one of my phones
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RldVsx1N54U/TqtVYYHg1XI/AAAAAAAACC8/iHGBnkJ0qU8/s800/SC20111028-210818.png

wish I didn't had plugged my other phone that still has half the battery and the same time as this one (my main line).

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:20

49. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You haven't even used the phone

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:28 1

53. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


sure have bud, second line tho. I'll just show you my stats on the main line tomorrow night

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:16 1

66. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Taco, please get an Android education before putting down the phones....lol

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:11

46. roscuthiii (Posts: 1836; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


I have a Droid Eris that as of 7:11PM Pacific time, Friday has not been on the charger since approximately 5:00PM Wednesday, and is overclocked, has not been turned off, has 3G and Sync turned on, and has been used to make calls and update apps... and still has 51% battery life remaining.

Just sayin'...

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:18

48. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


2 hours and 50% drain I rest my case

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:41 5

56. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Lol you don't read do you?

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:18 1

67. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Seriously, now go get a comprehension education and read....from 5:00PM wed...to 7:11 Friday....now that is pretty amazing...hard to believe, but I have been known to get 50 hours one charge, once in a while.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:36

72. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Taco I know way you have battery cause your using that thing what's it's face ? A 3G ups sorry no 4G for iPhone jajajajaja

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 14:07 2

141. Ivan6479 (Posts: 244; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


taco you are a true iTard. Try reading what he said. He said it was without charge from 5pm Wed - 7:11pm Fri and it still had 51%. Honestly if you can't read properly then I now understand why you thought your Thunderbolt (if you really ever owned one) didn't last a day.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:25

52. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


dude having it overclocked means nothing unless you actuly use those extra GHz, so obviously its not going to drain that badly

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 14:43

146. roscuthiii (Posts: 1836; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


It has been used... a few downloads, a few updates, a few calls, and a few services set to sync hourly, with the network turned on.
Even on light usage, that's still two days without being turned off at all and still had just over half the battery charge remaining.
That far exceeds the half a day BS Taco was stating.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 06:09 1

120. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Don't need to be offensive

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 04:44 1

119. Sniggly (Posts: 7113; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


"when you guys don't even get half a day."

Um.

Er.

If we're talking about daylight hours...

Last Saturday I unplugged my Atrix at 7 in the morning. With emails coming in, playing videos and doing demos of my device for customers, and a couple of hours worth of heavy web browsing (on sites like Phonearena), I was still at 40 percent battery when I got home at about 7:30 at night.

Also, just yesterday I had a lady come in who somehow had bought an original Droid X from Target (didn't know Target still sold them) and she was just getting down to her last bit of battery at about 6 at night...when she had taken the phone off the charger the previous morning. Not that morning. The PREVIOUS morning.

Granted, her usage probably wasn't even close to mine, but still, the fact remains that you don't really know what you're talking about, Taco.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 09:49

130. Habib (Posts: 114; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)


My Fascinate lasts me more than a day, i got 69 apps on it 2 email accounts, go launcher and sms pro with widgets. i primarily use it for texting and calls and emails the most. I GET great battery life, thats why i still havnt changed it to other android.( i am thinking about an Iphone with LTE, since i have 2 phones)

though my LG revolution does not give me even 6 hours, its because of the LTE, my 4 email accounts, backround syncing and the Go launcher with Go Sms Pro, widgets, about 74 apps and i watch DRAGON BALL Z( lame, i know) with phone arena browsing constantly!

well Blame the poor phone for doing so much for me.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 19:58 3

34. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


All androids are not power hungry. Moreover the androids need much more resources than what the latest iphone has. But still nearly one thirds of the owners are reporting problems with battery. It should be taken seriously and Apple is taking seriously. Hope Apple fixes it soon.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:07 2

36. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)


LOL !!!

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:11 1

37. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


10% an hour in use?! Surely this isn't constant use? Because on my droid incredible I am doing 30-40% an hour.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 01:11 1

104. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


jeez 30-40? whats with your phone. i have never seen such steep drops even on that battery guzzling evo

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 20:19 1

39. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


Well look what we have here the perfect phone has some issues..hopefully apple will take care if it.ios5 has some major issues with it. My buddy updated his and his battery sucks now

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:23

51. thebikerboi2 (Posts: 144; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)


ok fair enough, the iphone 4s has issues. i can identify the scource of the battery issue and its the A5 chip the 4s is using. this year apple opted for performance rather than battery life. the A5 in the 4s is the same size as that one found in the ipad 2 (45nm) and therefore uses more battery. where as with the iphone 4 they used a smaller version of the A4 than that in the ipad.

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 09:54

131. Snapdude (Posts: 128; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


you dont read... things without a5 are experiencing the issue when before the iOS upgrade they did not. its software not hardware

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 21:35 1

54. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 3033; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


My Epic Touch gets good battery life. I unplug it when I go to work and I leave to work at 2:50 pm. I work 8 and a half hours and I use it constantly. I get home at midnight and then finally put it on the charger at about 5 am. It just begins to go into red(10%) at that time. So no, iPhone's arent the only ones with good battery life. There are plenty of android phones now that have even better.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:20 1

69. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


IPHONE 4S is not perfect - SIRI does not even read back emails....and my older phone does....

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 22:54

74. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


it does wrong again

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:11

78. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


Unlike you, it would be the first time I was on an article....I will admit, I have not used an iphone 4S, yet, until the wife upgrades - article I was reading stated that Siri does not read emails back...if it does, then I apologize that I was misinformed. Now, I wish you would do the same, for all of the misinformation you spread concerning Android.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:12

80. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


http://www.quora.com/Will-Siri-ever-read-emails-and-other-selected-texts-from-web-pages-to-you

Siri does not read emails, but the phone itself can, just like my Android can....reading emails is not done by Siri, it is done by an integrated app, VoiceOver....mine has a nice british accent to it.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 23:15

81. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Here's real batter life. Almost 40 hours with everything on.


http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/taco5000/06cbefcc.jpg

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 00:08

90. networkdood (Posts: 6274; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


That seems really good....I bet you are looking forward to faster data speeds with the next upgrade, huh?

posted on 29 Oct 2011, 00:21

93. Jobes (Posts: 364; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Maybe he likes his DL speeds?

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