Apple looked into switching the iPhone to Verizon as early as 2007

0. phoneArena posted on 20 Jul 2010, 08:33

Everytime a switch to Verizon was brought up, the expense of changing the iPhone to CDMA would shoot the idea down...

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34. remixfa posted on 21 Jul 2010, 09:29

this post is not based in reality. They just did a data study, dillhole. It showed VZW still pulls in way more data usage than ATT. Hell, Sprint has more data usage than ATT. ATT has a shoddy ass network. VZW and sprint have wider and stronger 3g coverage, more bandwith, more use, and more left over bandwith after use than ATT. iphone iphone iphone... great.. exept that VZW and sprint have tons of data devices as well.. but sell about 8x more data cards because of the superior networks. Data cards use waaaaay more data than an iphone. Yea, ATT is faster in SOME areas, but outside of those VERY SMALL areas, VZW and SPRINT are faster. 3mps is faster than 2mps by 50%. learn to do math. BTW, Tmobile runs just slightly less data than ATT, doesnt have the problems of ATT's crap network and runs up to 21mpbs. Thats waaay faster than ATTs 7.2 max... right? Just making sure my math is correct. Sprints Wimaxx runs at 12mpbs.. isnt that faster than 7.2? Oh, and with LTE launching by black friday, thats 100mbs... is that faster than 7.2? im pretty sure it is. iphone fanboys are funny.

39. YouLostTheGame posted on 21 Jul 2010, 22:22

Well your 100 mbs for VZW and 21 mbps for T-Mobile are just "theoretical" speeds. Those actually are nowhere near how fast the networks are/will be in "real-world" use/speeds.

8. mobsniper posted on 20 Jul 2010, 10:10

I'll believe this if an iPhone acutally comes out for Verizon

9. Gawain posted on 20 Jul 2010, 10:11

I'm calling total BS on this article. Even if it took $1B in development costs to Apple to generate a CDMA device, they would have done it, assuming they had a willing partner carrier. While AT&T's warts are there for all to see, there are clearly reasons why Apple has chosen not to market a CDMA handset yet: 1) Agreement with AT&T; 2) Where is the willing CDMA carrier?; 3) There is a flaw in Apple's business model that hamstrings the carrier (a la VZW rejection years ago, and that there's been no mention of Sprint is another indicator). Apple has likely made about $1.5B on the iPhone 4G in the past 3 weeks alone. Apple is flush with cash and has no debt. This isn't about the money. There are all sorts of companies with arguably more complex architecture in their operation (like RIM) who have multi-mode devices and build devices to spec for multiple carriers. I'm really surprised that Wired would actually publish nonsense like this.

12. phone333 posted on 20 Jul 2010, 12:31

December 21st 2012...VZW gets the iphone according to the Mayas..!!.....maybe...

13. narley posted on 20 Jul 2010, 12:40

Mayans*

15. roscuthiii posted on 20 Jul 2010, 14:15

I think I have to call shenanigans here... what executive would go on record calling out a business partner saying their use of your product is like putting lipstick on a pig? An umemployed executive would be the normal answer.

31. RS9568 posted on 21 Jul 2010, 05:08

Well said sir.

17. hcbarclay posted on 20 Jul 2010, 14:30

i bet it comes down to what the carrier's would do for Mr. Steve Jobs... this is how i invisioned it happening...Mr. Steve Jobs went to Verizon and said you have to pay me a ton of money per handset to sell this device exclusively on your network for the next 5 years...Verizon said we are too proud to pay you all that money for a device that is sub-par compared to currently available devices. ...then he went to Sprint and they said that they are going to work on their customer service and the 4G network before we commit to your new device that have no successfull history in even producing a phone at all. for me it comes down to this ATT needed this phone and now it is causing them pains because APPLE is still learning how to make an effective smartphone...once its available on all carriers there will be no more of these endless discussions and i will probably own one if it comes to SPRINT

22. DOGIEFRESH posted on 20 Jul 2010, 16:01

Dude when that VZW first aproach by Apple is gonna end......???? Did you read what VZW president sais on a interview......???? He said clear Apple never went to VZ period stop that bullcrap fanboy get over with......!!!!

23. hcbarclay posted on 20 Jul 2010, 17:38

IM NOT A fanboy moron...i have an EVO

24. hcbarclay posted on 20 Jul 2010, 17:43

and it clearly said how "I" invisioned it which means, that i have no idea but my best guess that its all based on $$$ and cents but you should really try this program that might help you...not sure if you have heard of it but its called "Hooked on Phoenics"

25. DOGIEFRESH posted on 20 Jul 2010, 17:54

Truth hurt fanboy....!!!!!

32. sinfulta posted on 21 Jul 2010, 05:28

The reason everyone thinks it was approached to Verizon first is because at that time. Verizon's CEO had several meetings at the Cupertino based Apple in late August of 2006. Back when nobody heard about the IPhone at that time. It wasn't till November 2006, when Steve Jobs and a team of people were going into the AT&T Mobility Atlanta Georgia building a few months afterwards when buzz about it was hitting the internet. So it's reason to believe that's why people think it happened with Verizon that way. Why would Verizon be at Apple almost a year before the product came out? Other thing was right about the time the phone was about to launch, they're was a bunch of articles of VZW employees posting showing how in their system on how Verizon decided to not carry the product sight unseen and then listed a bunch of things Verizon and Apple would not come to agreement on. Like controlling inventory, advertising, Insurance, MMS, tech support, warranty replacements... etc. All that stuff which was unheard of at the time for the carrier not being able to handle that stuff. Which was on a $399 phone at the time. That was a point where all smartphones were just not approaching the $200-350 range. So for apple to offer a product with all those restrictions and have you pay more and at the time only wanted to charge $20 for an unlimited data plan with a phone that was non 3G. It would sound ridiculous in todays market which is probably why Verizon passed otherwise.

20. networkdood posted on 20 Jul 2010, 15:32

I would like to see what news source, or source in gereneral, is behind this story. It is a 5 yr contract and always has been. End of story - there will always be some riffs in a relationship, but APPLE has been/is making a ton of money for selling the iphone. I am glad I did not get the i(nferior)phone as my captivate gets 2.5Mpbs speeds where I live and better service than any iphone...

26. MOERBO posted on 20 Jul 2010, 19:33

Good move by Verizon not going with the iPhone at first. Everyone I know says "I love my iPhone but not the network" when Verizon launches the iPhone people that are unhappy with At&t with rush over to Verizon. Droid + iPhone = $$$$$

27. joey18 posted on 20 Jul 2010, 20:05

if iphone comes to verizon is going to be big idea for iphone user and apple bcs att has big problems with network i hope the january iphone comes to my store

35. Sniggly posted on 21 Jul 2010, 09:34

*Yawn* Sure, it'd be interesting to sell the Iphone to people, but I'm not particularly jumping to grab it. I like Droid better in looks, capability, and reliability. And I'm talking about the ORIGINAL Droid. So yeah, it'd be nice, but Verizon doesn't need the Iphone. All we need is to get rid of this stupid fucking required ten buck data plan for non smartphones.

40. iHateCrapple posted on 22 Jul 2010, 16:21

Agreed!!!! If we are gonna mandate data plans on non smartphones give us the f*cking connect and premium plans back too! So at least we have more options to throw at people instead of "it's required for this device, and no, it cannot be blocked"

38. cellstudent posted on 21 Jul 2010, 18:29

The only thing I don't buy about this report is the claim that a CDMA variant can't be made because it's "too expensive and would require a complete redesign." I mean, really, they've put the whole iPhone concept through a complete redesign every 12 months anyway, right? On top of that, every other maker from Samsung to LG to RIM seems to have very few problems re-tooling a device to run CDMA or GSM. There has got to be a deeper reason. Redevelopment cost is NOT the root reason for lack of a CDMA iPhone. They could probably get Verizon to front R&D costs for a iPhone variant if they wanted to. It also fails to explain why T-mobile and other GSM carriers in the USA have not been granted iPone rights when almost every other competitive market in the world has multi-carrier support. Too many holes. Way too many holes.

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