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Apple issues official statement: “we do not provide government with direct access to our servers”

0. phoneArena 17 Jun 2013, 03:39 posted on

Apple has just issued an official statement to deny allegations that the U.S. government has direct access to its servers and can spy on people’s conversations without a warrant…

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posted on 17 Jun 2013, 03:40 3

1. _Bone_ (Posts: 2068; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)


yes you do

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 03:42 1

2. darkskoliro (Posts: 886; Member since: 07 May 2012)


"Any government agency requesting customer content must get a court order"

Didn't they release a statement saying that PRISM got a court order?

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 04:05

3. Insignificant (Posts: 189; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


"we do not provide government with direct access to our servers, because we don't have servers, our servers ARE government servers"

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 04:58

5. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 608; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


You have the wrong company. Apple doesn't have a history of funding from and doing business with In-Q-Tel.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 04:37 5

4. a_tumiwa (Posts: 158; Member since: 16 Mar 2012)


yeah, not direct access, but backdoor access

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 06:59

8. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)


Je-je-je.....

You said back door!!

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 05:03 3

6. alterecho (Posts: 993; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


Funny how people are eager to make Apple guilty. even when they are not or seem not.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 05:33 1

7. Stoli89 (Posts: 333; Member since: 28 Jun 2010)


I wonder if there's a material difference between "provide" and "allow". What if Apple turned a blind eye to the NSA acquiring the data? I suppose they wouldn't be "providing" the NSA anything in this case.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 07:01

9. Dorothy69 (banned) (Posts: 498; Member since: 21 May 2013)


I expect nothing else from a company as "CLOSED" as Apple, who's sole purpose is to control everything that one does on any of their devices; the way "THEY" want you to!!

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 07:17

10. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4650; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


“we do not provide government with direct access to our servers”

And I don't care since I don't trust you Apple.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 09:28 2

11. axbog (Posts: 21; Member since: 03 Jun 2013)


It's not like they can just come up and say: "Aaaaa, yes. Yes we grant access to the government." Of course they will deny it. "Well, I'm not a crook!". Pshh..

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 10:48 2

12. rcl4444 (Posts: 37; Member since: 06 Oct 2012)


It's all legal-ese ... notice the wording
"...provide ...direct access to our servers.."
"Any government agency requesting customer content must get a court order"
"...gotten between 4000 and 5000 such requests. Some of them were rejected because of inconsistencies..."

They use the word "direct", which means all they are denying is a specific type off access - they may well provide indirect access. For example copies of files/info, or periodic downloads of data to government servers.
And with the new anti-terrorism laws NSA/CIA,FBI getting a court order isn't hard, just like PRISM has.
More concerning is that it seems if a request ticks all the right boxes government gets what they ask for anyway, with 4000-5000 of those requests coming through in 5 months the NSA and others have some very busy little beavers getting a lot of information about people's private lives!

Sure, Apple aren't going to admit their doing it, but if your not doing it then you'd use an absolute statement like 'We do not provide government with any access to our servers or data...'.

Ergo - they're providing info to government in some way.

posted on 17 Jun 2013, 22:45

13. rusticguy (Posts: 2811; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Access is provided by all (all means all) only for money. Talk of Privacy is nothing but HUMBUG.

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