Apple is laying down the law: apps to be optimized for iOS 7 by Feb 1st or get the boot
0. phoneArena 18 Dec 2013, 08:21 posted on
A new deadline issued by Apple is warning that any new or existing app needs to be optimized for iOS 7 by February 1st, or it will likely face deletion...
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1. Caukerzee (Posts: 36; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
This kind of arrogance will cause the downfall of Apple. You heard this from me 1st.
9. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Awww shutup. Get em apple, make get their butts I'm gear. You heard it from me first.
15. Caukerzee (Posts: 36; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
You mad bro? Buttthurt much? Apple wouldn't pay you for defending them y'know?
17. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
yeah dude SHUT UP before darkk makes you!! Get em darkk.
31. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
g2g, he's another silly apple hater, desperate for green thumbs. Predicting apples fall, while they climb. +1
43. Sauce (unregistered)
He doesn't want to accept the fact that Apple is one of the worlds most powerful and strongest companies, sticking around for a very long time. Not to mention renowned and exalted to millions and millions of people: consumer or not. I think he's trying to speak that silly analyst language. Teach him a few things Dark.
46. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Sauce, I swear I am trying to do my best to educate and enlighten this dude on Apple's stance in the business world. It's not about hating it's not about being a fan boy, it's about excepting reality in understanding that this is a major company and they are not going anywhere anytime soon. I think I'm going to have to let you stick it to him sauce put him in detention for 30 minutes bro. They just don't understand Apple is not in the position they're in for nothing. +10 bro
30. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Not at all, the butthurt one is the silly one predicting apples doom, from his room at mommys house.
38. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
That's what I've been talking about the whole time.
Apple will omit the Aarch32(32-bit) silicon from A8 and later.
Poor Sammy and Qualcomm won't be able to do the same thanks to Android's fragmentation. They will have hard time competing against Apple since omitting Aarch32 means a considerable increase in cost / design / space / power efficiency.
And you bet. They will invent stories about how much they care about customers and also support 32-bit computing unlike the evil Apple and so on.
And there will be people believing this utter BS.
14. adecvat (Posts: 246; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
No, its good. Developers will made high quality apps not like 80%trash on play store.
35. dre786 (Posts: 46; Member since: 10 Nov 2012)
these crapdroid fans aint know much about quality and standard they accustomed to their mess on playstore
49. Reluctant_Human (Posts: 885; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
They're no different than the fanboy nonsense your posting on here.
23. boosook (Posts: 1424; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Well, developers make money, so what's the problem? It's their job, and they publish on the app store because they're professional publishers. Do you want to publish an app and become rich (well, hopefully...) using Apple's store, platform and hardware? Then obey their rules. They have changed the OS and they want you to follow their guidelines. It's part of your job, so... you just do it.
Sounds pretty logical to me... though I'm no apple fan and would never buy an iphone.
44. Sauce (unregistered)
One of the best comments on here. It's just that though dude, people don't acknowledge or understand logic and the plain and simple example you just said.
25. casualavi (Posts: 48; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
@Caukerzee Don't mind commenting here. Maximum views will be of butthurt iOS iFans here.. LOL..
28. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Yeah, iOS fans are so butthurt about Apple promoting a consistent UI and optimisation amongst the apps. How can they do so? Everybody loves outdated apps!
33. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Man it hurts so much ya know lol. I can't even begin to fathom why apple wants the devs to get it in gear, and give the users who download these apps the best possible experience. The nerve of apple, for wanting things current for the users. +1
37. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Dude, I can totally feel you. I'll miss the ugly combination of iOS 7's UI elements with old apps and their icons, and also the lack of optimisation. It felt so good paying for some apps a few months ago and not receiving their iOS 7 update, until now. Damn, I'm so depressed.
4. tech2 (Posts: 3351; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
+1. The way the article is written says it all.
6. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Yeah, stating a simple and known fact that outdated apps were clashing sharply with both the UI of the OS and other apps makes PA biased towards Apple.
Seriously, you guys are pathetic.
10. tech2 (Posts: 3351; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
You can't make rules as you go along to suit you. If they'd implemented a policy where it would only work with IOS 6 or older generations then it would've made more sense ! But they choose to remove from app store completely, that's just BS !
Developers put lot of effort in these apps just because they 'don't look pretty' anymore that doesn't make them any less functional or counter-productive.
Besides in ios you've to make almost new app even for change in screen size. Last year only Apple made them to change app to cater to 4" from previous 3.5" (Remember letter boxing issue ?). Now again they've to follow their orders or they get booted ?!
Step in developers' shoes for a sec, its not easy to change app for ios7, 3.5",4", iPad, android phone and android tablets ! Cut them some slack
27. saurik (Posts: 86; Member since: 13 May 2013)
Nope. The apps won't be completely removed. The last compatible version of apps will still be available to download for users on iOS 6 and below.
3. Caukerzee (Posts: 36; Member since: 02 Jul 2013)
The 64-bit Architecture was unnecessary and not needed in the 1st place anyway.
7. casualavi (Posts: 48; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
You are right there. iOS does not even utilize the 64-bit processor. Moreover, it's OS can run smoothly with less RAM..
22. illusionmist (Posts: 157; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
"iOS does not even utilize the 64-bit processor."
Wat. The entire iOS & all built-in apps have been recompiled for ARMv8 and run in 64-bit. Some well-known 3rd-party apps have already adapted as well.
29. illusionmist (Posts: 157; Member since: 29 Jan 2013)
Go read an article... AnandTech is a good start.
Discard these words if you were just trolling. Sorry for interrupting.
5. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
Yeah, right. If half the apps have never been downloaded like it was reported, Apple is not going to delete half their app store.
20. Finalflash (Posts: 2776; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
They might, I think everyone is done with the app numbers race and now there is a greater focus on quality (they have to since they've lost at all numbers games). This isn't a bad thing but the implementation is wrong in some ways. Feb should be enough time though and most people should be able to upgrade their apps to qualify to stay. Art upgrade is the hardest part since coding is usually dynamic (unless the dev was lazy), but I don't think the look is a requirement for update since most apps have their own identity through their art.
19. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 261; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)
I think Google have to do the same thing like Apple, when Android goes 64-bit... :)
26. casualavi (Posts: 48; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)
It won't.. Android does not support 64-bit architecture. Anyways, Android doesn't need it either.. See KitKat for example..
45. IliyaBeshkov (Posts: 261; Member since: 09 Jul 2012)
I think that the Linux kernel supports 64-bit out-of-the-box. But Android and its apps do not support it. So it's matter of time when Samsung and Qualcomm are going to put their own 64-bit chips on the market. And then Google will start to supporting 64-bit with its next OS update, maybe in May or June when it is their conference. :)
34. darkkjedii (Posts: 19787; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Yeah they will, it's unavoidable. As these app stores grow, this stuff will happen. +1
41. PBXtech (Posts: 1032; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)
No doubt, one thing is perfectly clear the past 20 years, technology moves on and people have to adjust at some point or another, even if it's not needed. 64 bit Android is going to happen, just a matter of when.
39. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
You can run the 64-bit version of a SNES emulator on your 64-bit Windows. The emulated SNES remains a 16-bit machine.
The Dalvik VM is a 32-bit machine. Android hardly benefits from 64-bit computing.
47. joey_sfb (Posts: 5349; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
64-bit computing is a burden on memory foot print and CPU cycle unless you use engineering tools such as Autodesk 3D, Photoshop and other engineering software.
90% of user just use it to browse internet, basic word progressing and play AAA title PC Games which is 100% coded in 32 bit.
48. JakeLee (banned) (Posts: 1021; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
ARM64's instructions are encoded in 32-bit, just like ARM32's.
The 64-bit registers can operate in 32-bit width as well.
In other words : ARM64 hardly requires more memory than ARM32 when doing the same thing.
Two things though :
- ARM64 occasionally takes more instructions than ARM32 due to its streamlined instructions.
- Pointers are in 64-bit width.
Therefore, I'd say the increase in code size lies between 5~10%
Is it much? Not in the slightest.
If an app is 10MB in size, resources occupy 9.8MB and the rest by the code binary.
10% increase in 200KB is merely 20KB which is negligible.
And the runtime RAM usage? It's even far more negligible considering the multiple runtime memory allocations for temporary *resources*.
You shouldn't believe all those stories invented on the sole purpose of bashing and discounting Apples achievements.
There are too many. Nothing but superstitions.
PC games run in 32-bit because :
- There are still many users running 32-bit Windows. And unlike with Apple's XCode, the devs have to put much more additional effort creating separate 64-bit version on Windows.
- Unlike on ARM, the gain in 64-bit computing on x86 is marginal.
Just name an application with a separate Itanium version. You can't.
That's what you're gonna see on 64-bit Android.
13. promise7 (Posts: 869; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
This article made a mistake. It's any "new" app or if it's an existing app that has a update.
"Starting February 1, new apps and app updates submitted to the App Store must be built with the latest version of Xcode 5 and must be optimized for iOS 7. Learn more about preparing your apps by reviewing the iOS Human Interface Guidelines."
16. good2great (Posts: 1042; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
i was wondering why i've been getting a crazy amount of updates lately
18. jellmoo (Posts: 1502; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
This is a good move on Apple's part to promote a consistent user experience, which is what iOS users want and expect.
And honestly, this is something that app developers should have already been working on since the release of iOS 7. Plus, it isn't like the app is going to be pulled if it doesn't comply, only that future updates have to take this into account.
The end result is that this is a benefit for the end user. I kind of wish that Google would adopt something similar in order to have a more consistent experience amongst its apps. Might help to bridge the gap quality between iOS and Android applications.
21. Ishmeet (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
Agreed. Google needs to be stricter with developers.
Many of the top apps till date utilize the gingerbread ui, which looks quite ugly on the holo interface of android. Google should do something about developers that pay little or no attention for optimizing apps for newer devices
36. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
Misleading title. They don't need to update. If they don't update they're app will still be there. They can submit but if they submit without iOS 7 update then Apple won't allow it. What it means is if developers want to update after february 1st they need to support iOS7. btw this doesn't mean iOS 6 or older versions won't be supported, only if developers don't want to.
42. iGeek (Posts: 171; Member since: 15 Mar 2013)
I have a note 3 and an iPhone 5. I have to say I hate some apps on my note as they tend to look blown up not everything is optimized well so for those who are saying this is some kind ridiculous well you are ridiculous cause we are paying for these apps and we should have them to be updated on regular basis
50. nyc_rock (Posts: 12; Member since: 04 Feb 2010)
Are you listening Weather Channel?!?!
Good move Apple! Take it further though. If you don't update you get the boot!