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Apple iPhone user sues Apple over iOS 7 download

0. phoneArena 18 Oct 2013, 21:18 posted on

Poway, California's Mark Mencher is so upset about iOS 7 that he is suing Apple over unwanted downloads of iOS 7 onto his familiy's gadgets; the complaint was filed in small claims court and named Apple CEO Tim Cook as defendant. The suit seeks the removal of the iOS 7 install file. This file is installed on iPhones automatically once a model has power and is connected to a Wi-Fi connection and is not installed without some action done by the phone's owner...

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posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:10 7

36. silver91342 (unregistered)


Actually you can almost always downgrade android phone. Usually does not require root. Just visit OEM open source pages for previous versions.
opensource.samsung.com
htcdev.com/devcenter/download
developer.sonymobile.com
You get the idea, GNU GPL baby gotta love it.

posted on 21 Oct 2013, 20:38

89. Landmarkcm (Posts: 426; Member since: 11 Aug 2009)


Ya I hear ya but the majority of people aren't going to know or take the time to even do that. Again this guys has too much free time lol

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:37 5

39. tedkord (Posts: 4702; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You can easily downgrade on most android phones.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 19:37

84. Long1 (banned) (Posts: 399; Member since: 18 May 2013)


"So he downloaded the update & now is mad because he cant back to ios 6??"

Read again moron:

"This file is installed on Apple's mobile devices automatically once a model has power and is connected to a Wi-Fi signal. "

posted on 03 Nov 2013, 19:13

91. johntennant (Posts: 2; Member since: 03 Nov 2013)


You're missing the point. Imagine you buy any other product, for example I'll use a car. You test drive 3 cars, the iCar, the GoogleCar and the WinCar8. After test driving them all you chose to buy the iCar because you like the way it drives, shifts, seat comfort, interior colour etc.... Now after you buy it and enjoy it for months, at no request, iCar inc. comes and updates your car so it shifts differently, they change your interior colours, and basically change the whole driving experience for you to the point that you would never bought that car if it worked that way when you tested it. No other company could get away with this, but Apple does. Even Microsoft allows you to remove/uninstall updates. Apple is pretty much doing a bait and switch by forcing ios7 updates. You pay for one product and they switch it to another. I think he has a great case, and I'd gladly join in the fight with him!
All he wants is the ability to undo an update so his phone works the way it did when he decided to pay for it. Pretty fair request I think. If Microsoft can allow undoing updates, why can't Apple?

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 22:50 3

33. lyndon420 (Posts: 1733; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Version 7...and only now do they start to emerge from the fog.

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 22:55 6

34. ChafedBanana (Posts: 359; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)


Another poor soul raped by iOS7. :-)

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:26 4

38. Shinydesert (Posts: 57; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)


I really like iOS7, and even more after doing a full reset on my two iOS devices,no lag at all.

Couldn't be happier. There's no way I would downgrade.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 09:53 1

76. darkkjedii (Posts: 11077; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I agree with you, I'm simply not having these issues, that some are. I bought mine, and my wife's on launch day, which is usually the buggy ones. No problems at all. My iPad 3 does quit an app occasionally, but it always has, mainly the Facebook and USA Today app. It's been a great update.

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:44

40. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)


Obviously this guy will get crushed by Apple's lawyers but it's not about winning for Apple, it's about bad PR, which they just got. The guy will probably get free iPad, Mac, and iPhones out of the deal (with iOS6 on them) if he drops it and lets it fade into distant public memory.

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:47 1

41. suneeboy (Posts: 156; Member since: 02 Oct 2012)


I like iOS7. How many people on this thread bashing iOS7 actually own an iOS7 device?

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 00:27 4

49. Shatter (Posts: 2021; Member since: 29 May 2013)


I don't own but I have access to an iPhone 5C and iOS 7 is a fail on it.

posted on 18 Oct 2013, 23:57

42. JunkCreek (Posts: 402; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Apple wants to eliminate the "F" word by forcing all their devices to download the installation file. Really, Apple got a HUGE BACKDOOR SYSTEM TO SNEAK IN.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 00:02

43. JunkCreek (Posts: 402; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Apple wants to eliminate the "F" word by forcing all their devices to download the installation file. Really, Apple got a HUGE BACKDOOR SYSTEM TO SNEAK IN.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 00:07

45. JunkCreek (Posts: 402; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


Apple wants to eliminate the "F" word by forcing all their devices to download the installation file. Really, Apple got a HUGE BACKDOOR SYSTEM TO SNEAK IN.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 02:16

53. kabhijeet.16 (Posts: 633; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)


Apple's customer treating it the same way Apple treats other companies...

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 02:40

54. jb_prince (Posts: 7; Member since: 16 Aug 2013)


Actually i think he wasnt force to update because the available will be available though but if you dont accept it, it wont install. you choose what ever you do to it.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 03:29 1

56. taikucing (unregistered)


Stay away from this evil fruit

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 03:35 1

57. GrapeEyes (Posts: 243; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)


This just proves my point that Apple shares will keep falling due to their disconnect with their customers.

Apple is greedy and selfish!!

I still believe that by the end of 2016 Apple shares would have dropped that much, that they would be selling their phone division!

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 10:25

77. 14545 (Posts: 1106; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


I can't say I agree with that quick of a decline. But I do agree that apple is slowly killing itself very bad design and software choices. So I think it will take till more like 2020 before the cult turns on their leader, but it is inevitable at this point.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 05:13

61. Slammer (Posts: 1001; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)


This guy is acting like a child. If he was emotionally or physically harmed by Apple, then maybe I could see some merit for litigation. However, people have choices. Either deal with the way a company does legal business or walk away. There are other choices he has for carrying on his smartphone lifestyle.

John B.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 10:28 1

78. 14545 (Posts: 1106; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


He wasn't claiming physical or emotional harm. He just wants the ability to downgrade. Hence the reason he only asked for 50 in "damages" which is just court costs.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 06:35 1

65. AfterShock (Posts: 2799; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


Usually ifans just lay down and take it, good for him saying that he does not want it and making an effort to change.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 07:36

71. NioSenpai (Posts: 7; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


M on ios6 and apple forcing me hard everyday! Apps start to stop supporting ios6...

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 09:03 1

73. good2great (Posts: 1039; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


If this is such a big deal how come iOS7 isn't on 100% of eligible devices now?

Is he complaining about an iPhone 5 and below automatically updating?

I know people with iPhone 5 that still haven't upgraded and won't until it's completely bug free.

Scratching my head...

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 10:29

79. 14545 (Posts: 1106; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


He, probably like most people, upgraded thinking it would be something better. Then was disappointed and can't do anything about it now.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 09:40

75. Quezdagreat (Posts: 416; Member since: 05 Apr 2012)


I know some people that still has iOS 6 on their iPhone 4. I wonder why their hasn't auto updated. Maybe because they don't

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 10:55

81. spo (Posts: 19; Member since: 25 Apr 2009)


I'm pretty sure that the EULA everyone agrees to when initially activating the device negates any argument against this or any other software upgrade related issue.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 11:31 1

82. hortizano (Posts: 26; Member since: 22 May 2013)


So, "the fastest adoption of any version of Cupertino's mobile OS" is, correctly put: " the fastest FORCE-FED of any version of Cupertino's mobile OS"
Cool.

posted on 19 Oct 2013, 17:27

83. SugarShockFrantic (Posts: 73; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


just $50?!!!?????!!! come on shoot for the stars ask for a mili!

posted on 21 Oct 2013, 10:37

88. usufBaloch (Posts: 1; Member since: 26 Apr 2013)


On my ipad, I downloaded it myself. It wasnt autodownloaded. He cant actuallywin the law battle bcoz he tapped on I agree and agreed all the terms and conditions. :)

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