Apple iPhone surpasses BlackBerry as number one phone for enterpise use
0. phoneArena 16 Nov 2011, 13:58 posted on
According to iPass, the Apple iPhone has garnered a 45% share in the mobile enterprise space, taking over from BlackBerry as the number one smartphone for mobile employees while BlackBerry's slice of the pie has dropped down to 32%...
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1. andro. (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
Not surprising as blackberrys market share is dwindling greatly in general so many platforms are taking its enterprise share. Plus these days many blackberry phones are as competively priced for upgraded in contracts as other smartphone platforms and also have not been advertised as much. The awful blackberry storm ranges proved highly troublesome also and certainly put a big dent in the view of blackberry by corporate users
2. blackrose (Posts: 48; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
did you apple now as a patient over the use of nfc.. sharing contacts and so on.. just like android beam and the many others... wth is going on in the patient office
7. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
This is a completely off-topic, poorly spelled, and irrelevant post.
11. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
He's posting this over and over and different threads
3. hepresearch (unregistered)
\"It was inevitable.\"
4. AppleConspiracy (Posts: 636; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Every businessman must have iPhone. It's a part of the image. They don't actually do nothing more than they could on BB, but hey, the power is with those who own Apple. It's a symbol of succesfullness.
8. andro. (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
unfortunately working in the phone industry on a daily basis you see that what you said is actually true,most of these are the exact same business folk who complain that they can't understand why they cant get another iphone months into the contract of a previous iphone,d'oh!
14. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yes because only iPhone users want to upgrade early...
Quit trolling andro
16. andro. (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
if only we could call these customers trolls as easy as apple fans throw the name about continually ,it'd be hilarious day in day out!
these troll hunters are coming for you taco
12. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
They actually do a lot more than blackberries
5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Before not too long, there won\'t be anywhere that RIM can take comfort from. It wasn\'t too long ago, that the enterprise market was referred to as RIM\'s safe harbor.
Buh-bye RIM. Do the co-Bozos hear the flushing sound in the background?
6. cupcake (Posts: 106; Member since: 15 Apr 2010)
''More than 50% of employees say that their exercise schedule is not stable or that they don't exercise at all while 60% blamed work for that erratic exercise schedule.''
This is sad. Too bad employeers cannot give their employees some time to exersise.
9. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
ha, even if they did, most employees would still say they dont have time to actually do it.
10. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
blackberry's last hold out is completely eroding away from them. QNX phones better be amazing.. thats all i can say about that.
13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
QNX will most likely be too little to late. At this point blackberry has to leap frog the competition to start winning customers back. I don't see them doing that.
iPhones and iPads are the future of the enterprise market.
15. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Three words: Ice.Cream.Sandwich.
My company already offers managers a choice of devices (as long as they\'re available on AT&T). One chose Blackberry because he was a long-time user, the other two chose Androids. With ICS closing the user-friendliness gap, and companies like Motorola adding enterprise features, Android won\'t be on the sidelines.
17. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Yes let's use your personal co workers as "proof" while we ignore the official numbers where Apple dominates.
18. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Did he say anything about it being proof? Or was he trying to debate what the numbers are right now?
I'm pretty sure he was disputing what you said regarding "iPhones and iPads are the future of the enterprise market" using his own personal experience. He even concluded by saying that Android won't be on the sidelines. He didn't say #1. He didn't say #2. He just said that the situation would improve.
19. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
What he said I said.
I said nothing negative about the iPhone or iPad. I happen to think they're both solid devices. I was merely pointing out that with Android's current dominance in smartphones, the likelihood of the enterprise market going entirely to Apple is highly unlikely. The future will be a mix of iOS and Android.
21. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
let me educate you .. please... the only reason Android.. or one fo the top reason Android dominates is because they offer a gazillions of mid to low end devices... and professionals will not consider and OS that can be on a high end device and a low end device. too confusing.. lets keep it simple.. iphone mustards that....
23. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Thanks for educating me but if I needed a lesson in bulls**t i'd be watching the republican debates.
28. andro. (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
agreed,they never learn though,they keep up with the same stereotype of apple 'image' sells response.
Its what keeps them buying apple products and what makes apple keep up the image branding pr mental advertising techiques to try sell the same products each year. From apples point of view it work i guess.
25. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Just like professionals don't use PCs because they're offered at low, mid and high end, right?
I'm not arguing that Android is the best, I'm arguing that it's competitive. Read the press on the Razr - it's a high-end, high-quality and professional-ready device. The existence of the LG Optimus does not negate the existence of the Razr and Galaxy SII.
29. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
wow wow wow.. you are twisting my comment... all am saying... is that most professionals are not aware of the latest Android device... but are aware of the latest Apple device... so when choosing the phone that will represent.... give me an A.. for Apple....
44. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
But in mainland China, they have RAZRs with better specs, a larger display, etc. Motorola isn't giving the US consumer their best stuff!
33. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yet gallito, when you look at the top 10 android sales lists when they come out, they are dominated by EXPENCIVE handsets.. some of them 300 bux.. which is way more than the i4s. Yet, the iOS is a near 50/50 split between 200 and free on the Q3 chart.
Did you have a point?
36. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
this is the only point I need...to make
"Apple iPhone surpasses BlackBerry as number one phone for enterpise use "
so save all the writting that i didnt bother to even read... and read the article...
ps.. i already gave you the title... please read the rest
20. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 432; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
I dont believe this...impossible to conduct business on a iphone...they just got gmail....what email client is the phone using for corporate sync
22. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
if you are going to troll ...at least be confident about it...
27. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
gallito, you would definitely be the person to ask advice on how to troll correctly, you and taco are pros.
30. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
and yet my phone doesnt ring... can you believe it
34. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
no.. no i completely believe you dont get many calls. :)
31. andro. (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
gallitoking, for continual use and proclamation of your love and affinity for troll folk,it is here by determined you must be one and hense forth these guys are gonna sort you and taco trolls out:
38. gallitoking (Posts: 4700; Member since: 17 May 2011)
damm dont gang up on me.... i am wearing glasses -0-0-......
how many fandroids does it take to bring a member of the Apple Army down?.... well wait until they restart their android phone and will see... in the meantime.. I will grow a beard
41. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
You've already won. They responded in the first place.
Wait, *I* responded to you too! Dammit!
32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
iPhone has always had gmail. Get it together troll.
39. DROIDX0430 (Posts: 432; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
Not the app...just via web...but now the app is back today...what...google on an apple product....iphone is not and will never be a business savy phone...its barely keepiing up with the iphone 3gs
45. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Then why is it the most used phone in enterprise?
40. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
They always had access to gmail but they didn't have the app you dumb f**k.
24. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 110; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
One thing that I think should be pointed out in all of this is a lesson that Apple should learn from and pay attention to. The biggest reason that Blackberry has lost huge amounts of marketshare in both the public and private sector is because they failed to innovate and move forward. They continued to rehash the same devices over and over making only minor changes to the form factors and not doing much to improve thier OS. The way I see it is that the only other company that seems to have fallen into this same pattern is Apple. I'm sure I will get hated on for this but the fact of the matter is that Apple rehashes the same device year after year, hasn't really done a whole ton to actually change and improve its OS, and thier devices launch behind the curve of other smart devices on the market. Not to mention the over inflated value that they put on thier products. Its not just thier phones either... thier tablets and thier computers are all priced higher then they are actually worth and thats been thier MO for the last 30 years. If they aren't careful they could very well end up suffering the very same fate as RIM. When you think you have nothing to worry about you tend to become stagnant and in denial of the presense of real competition then you have a lot to worry about.
43. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
But Apple has a pipeline is at least 5 years deep and constantly has to wait for the technology to catch up.
I can see RIM resting on their laurels but Apple is already working on stuff for the future. Apple gets disruptive technology very well and it shows in its products.
Btw, iOS 5.0 is freaking amazing. 5.0.1 was 780 MB as a file, but if upgrade from 5.0, the deltas were only 34 MB. That is something MicroSoft can't do.
47. remixfa (Posts: 14252; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the first iphone was disruptive technology. Everything since has been incremental upgrades. Android was disruptive. Windows mobile was disruptive. Palm was disruptive Its all disruptive at some point. Its not something that only apple can do..
48. audiblenarcotic (Posts: 110; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
I really don't see that much of a difference in the iOS 5 to be honest with you. I would say that RIM made more of an impact to its OS going from BBOS5 to BBOS6.
Saying that Apple is waiting for technology to catch up isn't exactly a correct statement either. The first iPhone didn't even have Picture Messaging which is something that had clearly been around for years. Hell there was a period of time when you couldn't even change the alert sound for your text messages because Apple wanted everyone to know that you had thier product in your pocket.
The new model lacks a larger screen, 4G connectivity, NFC chip, expandable memory, etc. This is not a lack of the technology being there. Apple seems to like purposefully holding back on putting the technology in thier device so that next year they can sell you the same device with the featueres it should have had in the first place and call it an upgrade. Meanwhile they just got your money twice.
Let's be realistic and say that they really did a diservice to thier customers with the new model. In a year and a half you all you could do is upgrade the camera and processor? I won't even include Siri because its completely capable of being used on the iPhone 4. They just removed it from that model when they launched the 4S so that you would have some reason to buy the new one.
I'm not trying to say in any way that thier devices are trash, but the horrible business practices that they have as a company certainly holds thier products back. At the rate that other manufactureres are willing to embrace new technology Apple will need to rethink thier approach.
42. speckledapple (Posts: 886; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)
If it was even possible for RIM to get out of this I would be confident. However, in this case I am not. I think that even if they manage to release a next batch of phones that are top notch. And even if they create a great experience regardless of how many apps they do not have. And even if they somehow manage to go head to head with other phones and win out. They will probably end up simply fading into the background. The main reason is because they have spent entirely too much time trying to catch up and not enough time getting out of their old funk and into something new.
They had chances and opportunities to do something better and just failed plain and simple. I used to be a blackberry user and even considered going back to them after I saw the latest batch of phones but somehow I just doubt they will ever be able to do enough to wow me anytime in the future. its sad for such an awesome company with a very compelling product.
They might end up being bought, if Canada allows that.
46. GeekMovement (Posts: 1833; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Blackberry is gonna make a comeback (-;
49. hepresearch (unregistered)
makes me think of a scene from Tommy Boy. If it had been filmed 20 years later, the burning desk ornament could have been a BlackBerry.