Apple iPhone 6 is a truly global phone with record LTE bands count, see which countries you can use it in
1. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
This is one thing I like about the iPhone... the only thing I like about the iPhone. However, I'll stick with my Z2. Kudos to Apple for this though.
13. JC557 (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Z2 has almost as many bands ( I forget the actual Z2 model number) and hopefully the Z3 and Z3 Compact will follow suit and add more.
46. domfonusr (Posts: 384; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
Where Motorola introduced the first tri-band phone in the Timeport in 1999, and Palm possibly introduced the first quad-band GSM phone in the Treo 600 in 2003 (this is the earliest one I could find, though it is probably not right), while Nokia introduced the first penta-band WCDMA phone in the N8 in 2010, here is Apple introducing an LTE Swiss-army knife in the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus now in 2014. The iPhone 5s had a bunch of LTE bands, but was missing some notable ones. They certainly didn't leave many LTE bands out this time around.
49. domfonusr (Posts: 384; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)
Actually found the oldest quad-band GSM phone, the NEC 515 from 2002.
So there you go. NEC 515 is quad-band GSM in 2002. Nokia N8 is penta-band WCDMA in 2010. Apple iPhone 6 and 6 Plus go 16-band LTE in 2014. Interesting progression, if you ask me.
2. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Since they are using Cat 4 and not Cat 6 LTE, it doesn't reach higher speeds than 75 Mbps on the 2 biggest providers in the Netherlands (they work on the 800Mhz band). Most recent Android phones use Cat 6 LTE and can reach speeds of 150 Mbps on that band.
Not to mention the max speed of Cat 6 is 300, Cat 4 max speed is 150. But those speeds won't be reached any day soon
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
The iPhone 6 and 6 Plus don't support Band 12, which is the band T-Mobile is rolling out the 700MHz spectrum in 2015. :/
36. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
LTE band 12 will be live before the end of the year 2014. :)
12. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10577; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
"But those speeds won't be reached any day soon"
That just made everything you said before pointless since it's theoretical not tested and proven.
16. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
You should read better. Cat 4 still won't go over 75 Mbps in my country while Cat 6 does go to 150. At the moment. So not in the future, but right now. And the full speed of Cat 6 LTE will be 1-2 years max. It's not theoretical, just not implemented. This means a current Cat 4 device won't get the max speed in less than 2 years, while the others will.
26. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10577; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
Again theory. Cat 6 is fairly new. You're jumping way ahead of the curve.
30. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Ericsson and Qualcomm already had tests where they managed those speeds. Also 1 big provider rolled out one area of 4G+ delivering speeds up to 225Mbps. So no.. not theory but it won't be implemented tomorrow.
51. lsutigers (Posts: 819; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)
Anything is possible in a lab environment. Sprint hit the record with 1gbps (gigabit) at their lab in Silicon Valley but that's not happening anytime soon in real world speeds.
55. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Yet the test area of one of those providers are working on 4G+ are doing speeds of 225mbps. Not in a lab environment, but with live users, in an entire region. Might not be 300mbps yet, still a lot quicker than the maximum of Cat 4. And things do go quickly when it comes to tech. And agreed, under normal circumstances, they rarely make it to the max speed. Let's say 50% is average. 50% of 300 is still a lot more than 50% of 150.
34. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Lol you are hilarious. Yes you won't be able to reach the theoretical peak of cat 6 lte in while, probably never. However, that isn't the point. The point is average cat 6 speeds are still way better than average cat 4 speeds so whether each reach the full potential or not is completely irrevelent. Cat 6 is here now and its faster period.
I remember the same itards making the same arguments when the 4s was standard 3g and the GS2 was hspa +.
29. pulkit1 (Posts: 354; Member since: 03 Jul 2014)
You are right normally in real word situations carriers can only achieve 1/3 the speeds of a said technology because of :
1) non full scale implementation .
2) network congestion .
3) concrete infrastructure that obstructs the signal .
4) well iPhone is metal so it has a hard time getting the bars ( my 5s does ).
41. leroy98 (Posts: 11; Member since: 29 Jun 2014)
Tested with a Galaxy Alpha (4G+) and iPhone 5S on Vodafone NL:
So yes you will be able to reach 75mbit/s with a iPhone 5S.
With T-Mobile Netherlands you will reach theoretical 150mbit/s.
Most speedtests around 75 mbit/s down and 30 mbit/s up.
I've seen speeds of 140mbit/s.
56. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
The iPhone 6 (which has a faster LTE than 5S) is able to reach the full 1500mpbs on T-mobile, since they work on the 1800 band. KPN & Vodafone uses 800 band though, which limits it to 75.
39. torr310 (Posts: 772; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
For real, most cases are the speed cannot reach the optimized rate.
My verizon 4G speed has been dropped for a long time, especially at the peak hours.
I would prefer the carriers spending more money on the coverages over the speed (but should still be over 4MB/s).
3. smarttechbadworld (Posts: 74; Member since: 07 May 2014)
I am sure that it doesn support more than thoso countries, israel has lte and it will be funny for the iphone 6 not to support lte in israel i will lol at isheip
6. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Those are probably just the launch partners. Look at where the 5S can work with less LTE bands.
14. JC557 (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Even if the country lacks LTE at least it can be used on HSPA+ which is good enough.
19. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
I know, my point was that Apple is only showing the countries it is launching in currently. Since the guy I responded to was being an idiot. But yeah, HSPA+ is fast enough for pretty much anything you would want to do on a phone.
45. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
hey kid, if you don't know how to discuss without offending people, ask your parents if they can teach you good manners...
48. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Hey, if you weren't so obtuse I wouldn't have to be. If you paid attention you would've noticed that it was the same places where the iPhone is launching. If you didn't notice...well, I don't think my word choice was wrong in that case.
57. marbovo (Posts: 658; Member since: 16 May 2013)
OK, you got reported, if your parents if your parents are unable to teach you manners, maybe PA can.
58. a_merryman (Posts: 749; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
Reported for what? It isn't spam, it is in English, it isn't bad language. Just because you are upset that you got called out on your crap attempt at trolling isn't a good enough reason for them to do anything. It isn't my fault that you can't handle any critique of your comment, or that it hurt your feelings when I said you were being an idiot with that comment(since you were with that comment, there's no way you honestly believed the LTE will only work in 9 countries when the 5S works in most countries in the world that have LTE networks.)
P.S. - I didn't report you even though you are making personal attacks to both my parents and I, unlike me who just said you were purposefully acting liking an idiot with your comment and said you were being obtuse. Also, I'm not a kid, seeing how you responded and acted like I made personal slights against you it seems like you are pretty young though.
5. leekielowe (Posts: 7; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
Pop Quiz......What all of these bands and innovative features, Now will I be able to browse the internet while on a phone call with the Verizon version? Currently my 5s can't do that.
7. Derekjeter (Posts: 805; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
From what Apple support told me we still can't talk and web at the same time.
They would have had to add more radios is what the support team told me. I'm disappointed cuz I was hoping for that as we'll. I use it a lot on my S5 and G3
11. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10409; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Really? Still aren't able to? That's kind of a huge deciding factor imo.
15. JC557 (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Wait, even on LTE the Verizon iPhone can't browse the web/ maps during a call? Wonder what the reasoning behind that was as it clearly didn't make a difference battery life-wise.
23. Derekjeter (Posts: 805; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Wait.... Apple updated its info and it looks like the Verizon iPhone 6 will be able to web and talk..... F@ck yeah!!!!! So happy. And the reason why older iPhones couldn't was due to limited radios. I guess Androids have multiple radios. I'm definitely getting the iPhone 6plus now.
31. JunitoNH (Posts: 1586; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)
Apple blames Verizon for this. However, Android devices are able to use voice and data simultaneously; therefore, is Apple inability to add extra radio, prevents simultaneous voice and data on CDMA network. I'm sure when volte is implemented, no longer will be an issue.
8. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
Lacks LTE band 12 700 MHz block A for T-Mobile USA. Epic failure by Apple again.
17. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10577; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
They don't even have band 12 up yet. That's not a fail.
24. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
LTE band 12 will be up LIVE at the end of this year. The most revolutionary and innovative company on the planet can't even foresee the immediate and imminent upcoming lte bands? How can they possibly miss that?
27. Ninetysix (Posts: 2316; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Phone's not for you broseph. Stop crying like a little girl and get a phone that supports your future LTE band 12 on tmobile. Get one of these phones.
32. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
I already know that that's why I'm picking up Sony Xperia Z3. Thanks for the link, though.
9. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
we have to purchase this midrange phone in double the price and still we cant have cat 6... cat 6 will be available soon, so iphone 6 is good for only 5 or 6 months... either you have to switch to other phone or you have to stick with 75mbps speed for long time
40. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Cat 4 do have 150mbps but it is not crossing 75mbps...
21. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2636; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Cat 4 does have 150mbps speed, just not on 800 band.
25. caesantos (Posts: 86; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)
Actually 10 countries. This must be a record, LOL!
28. DaBigDogg (Posts: 12; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)
And good luck getting Sprint to unlock your iPhone so you can actually *use* all those bands...
52. lsutigers (Posts: 819; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)
Sprint will unlock the phone if you are traveling internationally, you have to call Sprint Worldwide Care. Our company just did that with our iPhones for traveling overseas but it wasn't even necessary as we keep the Sprint SIM card and phone number.
33. xfire99 (Posts: 782; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
This is the only good with iphones. Others OEMs should do the same.
35. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
No LTE band 12. T-Mobile customers who'll get the new iPhones will be disappointed when they learn their new, shiny, and expensive iPhones won't get optimum LTE data speeds, coverage, and performance especially building penetration. This topic has been hot all over the internet. A lot of people are furious about Apple's decision. I hope this can fixed via software update. If it's a hardware problem then better wait for the iPhone 6s.
42. darkoman4 (Posts: 159; Member since: 30 May 2014)
So far only Galaxy Avant supports this band. That is a big failure on TMobile part. They should have worked with OEMs for better part of this year to make sure they are including this frequency in their hardware.
44. Federated (Posts: 261; Member since: 06 Mar 2010)
Sony Xperia Z3, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Motorola Moto X (2014) will have LTE band 12. Seems like those 3 companies did their homework.
53. lsutigers (Posts: 819; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)
What's up with that? Sounds like a classic Apple tactic to get customers to buy the next version of the iPhone by "leaving something out". They did the same thing last year with Sprint Spark. The previous gen 5S, 5C iPad Air and iPad Mini only support dual band Sprint LTE and not triband. The new iPhone 6 and iPads now have Spark triband support. I wonder if they will do the same with Verizon XLTE bands.
37. mamadathu (Posts: 48; Member since: 01 Mar 2014)
where is india??? 2300mhz band are supported in india.
43. sraj49 (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)
I have a sprint Nexus 5 ( CDMA network) and I travel a lot. I am in Australia and all I need is a local SIM Card GSM and I pop it in and the the phone works without any issue. nThe same thing when I go to India. This has been there for a long time and not exclusive to iPhones...
54. lsutigers (Posts: 819; Member since: 08 Mar 2009)
The Nexus is also a beast when it comes to international support of CDMA, GSM and LTE bands but I think you can buy it unlocked directly from Google or Sprint unlike other non-Nexus phones which are usually carrier locked from AT&T, Sprint or Verizon.
47. mike2959 (Posts: 506; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Most phones have additional bands that are not "officially" supported.. My LG G Pro 2 F350S (South Korean model) doesn't list band 17 700mhz for AT&T but works fine. Oh.. And it's a awesome phone.
50. eldyagustius (Posts: 177; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)
The title is somewhat just an overreaction from PA when they write articles about Apple, or maybe Samsung.