Apple iPhone 5c production cut in half?
Reports of weak Apple iPhone 5c sales seem to contradict other reports that claim otherwise. For example, Canadian securities house Canaccord Genuity recently said that during September, iPhone 5c sales were strong enough at the four major U.S. carriers to propel the device ahead of the Samsung Galaxy S4 at certain times in the month, good enough for second place. The Apple iPhone 5s was the top selling smartphone among the top four major U.S. carriers during September.
Apple's website seems to confirm the lack of demand for the Apple iPhone 5c. Orders placed online from the site show that they will ship within 24 hours while orders for the Apple iPhone 5s show a shipping date of "October". In addition, China's online shopping site Taobao has seen the price of the iPhone 5c drop from 4488 Yuan ($733 USD) to 3500 Yuan ($572 USD). Still, we need to take this report with a grain of salt until we get a look at Apple's production numbers at the end of the quarter.
source: CTechcn (translated) via Pocketlint
1. apple4never (Posts: 994; Member since: 08 May 2013)
why would u even get this if you can get a iphone 5 for cheaper and better materials
2. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1673; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
You can't, from major carriers anyway. Verizon stopped selling the 5 online the day the 5S and 5C came out. But you are exactly right, why would anyone buy this when it was the same price?
6. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1313; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Frys electronics currently have iPhone 5 16gig for $0, 32gig for $100 and 64gig for $200. You would be a for if you picked a 5c if you have access to a Frys.
18. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1673; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
That's cool, at least someone isn't holding out lol
3. harigrg33 (Posts: 174; Member since: 20 May 2013)
Coz apple fan think iphn 5c is innovation lol :D
57. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
The flock of Apple Fanboys just see: Newer = better. They could release an iPhone that was the shell of an iphone 5 with the parts of a iphone 4 in it and a gimmicky new feature and it would sell better than the 5s did.
67. apploid (Posts: 3; Member since: 12 Oct 2013)
Apple shall re-continue the iP5, and half continue the iP5c
4. bucky (Posts: 1603; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
This was a stupid idea to begin with. I'd much rather find a 5.
65. Finalflash (Posts: 1946; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
It was an ingenious idea, shaft your older design and force everyone who wanted it to either buy shafted phone or move to higher priced same as last year phone. Very lucrative idea when the company knows its followers and their thought process (if there is one).
5. emadshiny (Posts: 1142; Member since: 05 Dec 2012)
It's interesting that no one buys a phone which has a 9 score.
Isn't it PA?
7. HASHTAG (unregistered)
Yep, this is an Alan F. article. *weak
27. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
You need to take his articles "with a grain of salt".
Side note...pretty funny how we were presented with a COMPLETELY speculative article projecting 10 MILLION sales of an Iwatch without grains of salt sprinkled on it. However, information regarding production cuts in the ip5c are held in dispute?
Gold plated iPhone....sold out. CHEAP iPhone...production cuts. Not only unsurprising, but PREDICTIBLE. Who wants to have the CHEAP phone for VIRTUALLY THE SAME PRICE?
29. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
Did you really just say "Gold Plated" iPhone?
38. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Yes, PotDragon did write "gold plated iphone". We can all read his post.
8. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Apple should just stop making this plastic iPhone. iPhone 5 = best value for money for an expensive Apple product..
10. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9092; Member since: 14 May 2012)
iPhone 5C was the biggest fail from Apple in 10 years. I'll believe 5S sales are strong, but if someone says the 5C is a gift, they're dead wrong.
12. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Really didn't need to be made, shoulda just made the 5s in those colors.
14. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9092; Member since: 14 May 2012)
I'd actually prefer that they didn't. Champaign gold is classy.
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Man that one rocks, but the industrial look of the space gray has grown on me.
32. DaNTRoN (Posts: 135; Member since: 23 Jul 2012)
I like the space grey as well. Side note however. I just read Steve Jobs bio, and I thinks its funny, he hated grey machines for their 'industrial look', that I think is quite nice. He hated a lot of stuff that Apple has done since he passed though.
Not trying to pass judgment on whether that's right or wrong for Apple to do, just saying.
50. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Time to move on from Jobs' restrictions, and forge a new path.
17. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2073; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
Or why didn't they just do as they had before, and offer the previous year model at a discount? I thought the whole point was that the c model was supposed to be for developing countries, but they were selling for the same price as they were with older models previously. So basically, selling the old model at a discount was a better deal for consumers than the 5c model, which due to cheaper build costs meant higher profit margins for Apple. Should've kept it the way it was.
21. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Apple went on record as never saying it was for developing countries VSW. I think the 5C was somewhat of an experiment into more coloring. I think next year there won't be C series iPhone, just a flagship, and the 5S as the lower cost option. Rumor has them testing 4.7-5.7 inchers. We'll see...
31. PotDragon (banned) (Posts: 214; Member since: 22 Jul 2011)
Complete nonsense Jedi. Complete.
You have no clue what models they will release. Or when. Or what size.
You did not know the 5c was coming. You have no inside track to rumors. You have no clue. None.
Ever single thing you ever wrote regarding your "thinking" has been incorrect, what makes you think you could possibly have any credibility?
36. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
PotDragon, darkkjedii is correct on Apple's position about the 5C. The wall street analysts et al asserted the 5C was for developing countries.
Therefore, your comment of "Ever single thing you ever wrote ..." is complete horsesh*t.
49. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Ardent thank you +1, Tim cook said himself apple was never planning to or would compete in the low cost sector. He said there's too much room for growth in the high end sector. PotDragon called me out lol, and Timw words can simply be googled. Hey Pot thanx bro. +1
51. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Credibility restored lol.
52. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Ca red a billlllll ityyyyyyyyyyy
56. VZWuser76 (Posts: 2073; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
So then really what was the point of the 5c then? Couldn't they have just offered colors on the 5 and called it a day. Anodized aluminum is nothing new and rarely has issues. There are literally tons of different colors available going the anodized route. The two things I took away from handling the 5c is : 1. The only reason they went with plastic was to maximize profit. & 2. They apparently have changed their stance on using premium materials. All people have ever heard from ifans and even Apple itself is that plastic is cheap. Obviously aluminum is considered more premium than plastic, even high end polycarbonate. So why is plastic okay now that Apple has done it?
If next year they do as you say and go back to offering the previous years phone at discount, and this color campaign they're running is something they want to pursue, they'll start using anodizing. But what irks me is when companies bash something and then come out with the same thing and then it's okay. While cheap plastic is used, not all plastic is cheap. I'd even go so far to say that the plastic on my S3 isn't cheap. It flexes to the point you can bend it in half. On electrical plates, that's the expensive stuff, the cheap stuff is the rigid plastic that can snap easily.
59. darkkjedii (Posts: 13551; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I feel you in the plastic thing, I never looked at it as being cheap. I can see saying cheap, if they're using Saran Wrap lol, but no plastic isn't cheap. Neither is aluminum, both are durable and will scuff, plastic will crack and aluminum will dent. As far as bashing something and then using it, mr pot meet mr kettle I guess. Who knows why these companies do what they do? +1 to your post VSW. Great as usual.
42. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5975; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It cost too much to produce the iP5. The 5Cheap could be produced for ~$100 less than the 5 - which for Timmy was a win-win (same specs at lower cost).
Too bad the buying public didn't see it that way.
30. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
What about Apple Maps? That was a huge fail. Specially since they only tout how they don't release stuff until it's perfected because they spend so much time making sure it is perfect. I feel that takes the fail cake for Apple.
37. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
What about Apple Maps? It was not up to Apple's standards and Tim Cook apologized for the situation and Scott F. was given the boot.
Your assertion about Apple releasing products is just plain DUMB. Everyone knows software comes with bugs and that is why we get (free) updates.
Zayzay, you are trying too hard.
39. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
It's really sad that you continually call people's comments dumb, only to follow up with one that lacks common sense yourself. You missed the point so I'll throw you a bone, ZayZay was talking about how Apple tells people they release products only after they are ready, yet released both Siri and Maps in beta mode. Siri at least worked, but anyone on the design team could tell Maps wasn't even close to being release, yet they did anyway. Scott F. shouldn't have been fired because Maps shouldn't have been released until it was ready. Firing Scott was just a saving face move to cover their embarrassment for jumping the gun.
And btw, you can disagree with someone without calling them dumb. Maybe one day you'll learn that level of maturity.
I eagerly await your Thesaurus findings, I know you won't disappoint. It's going to be tough topping jejune though.
70. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
A fine example of foot in mouth disease -- Googler opens his mouth and proceeds to insert foot.
80. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
So that's the best you have? Disappointed. No Thesaurus word, no condescending insults, no double talk semantics. You're losing your edge.
But hey, you did totally ignore the points. Gotta give you some credit to sticking to your MO.
83. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
You are a troll.
Smart people who just readhttp://www.phonearena.com/news
understanding how you like to put your FOOT in your mouth. All I wanted to do was to show people how you have foot in mouth disease.
Again, you are just a troll and should be treated like one.
40. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9092; Member since: 14 May 2012)
iPhone 5C should have never launched... They were so sure it was going to sell, and it didn't.
Also, you totally missed ZayZay's point lol. Apple Maps was a complete and utter fail. They removed the beta name and launched it knowing damn well it wasn't ready for public release. Police agencies around the world warned it's citizens not to use Maps due to it being life threatening. Apple did it again this year with iOS 7. Not only did it slow down devices, it still wasn't ready for public release. Had Apple postpone the iOS 7 update to get the bugs, crashes, and lag issues taken care of, that would have been a different story - but they didn't. Don't be one sided and defend Apple in a heartbeat ardent1.
75. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
I addressed Zayzay's both points.
1) the Maps fiasco
2) that Zayzay held the opinion that Apple only released perfect products or services.
I didn't miss the point. Like I said, I met his points head-on.
63. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
Thanks for the calling me dumb ardent1. I stated a FACT and you responded with that. Well played.
68. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Zayzay, I understand you have a READING comprehension problem. I stated your ASSERTION was dumb.
Your assertion WAS NOT a fact, it was an opinion. By construction, opinions are NOT facts. In case YOU FORGOT, your opinion was Apple only releases "perfect" products or service.
Stop back-pedaling since we can all read your post.
82. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
I was repeating what Apple had stated when they were talking about not releasing products until they were perfect. But, once again, you're right. You are the internet winner.
64. ZayZay (Posts: 565; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)
I'm glad they fixed it for the Apple users. Those first users will continue to use Google maps because it is more reliable. Not trying to start a Fanboy war, because we all know there is plenty of that on PA.
11. Stuntman (Posts: 797; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
People are realising that they can just get an iPhone 5S and a case. That way, they have a better phone and more exterior options.
13. Sniggly (Posts: 7208; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Totally called it. And here darkjedii had the freaking nerve to call me a liar when I posited that iPhone 5c sales were nowhere near the stock we were sent.
15. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9092; Member since: 14 May 2012)
T-Mobile still hasn't sold their first shipment of the 5C and it's been three weeks lol.
People are not stupid. They rather pay the same price for a 5 or $100 more for the 5S than the 5C.
19. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Shh, don't tell Ardent1 that, he thinks the 5C sales are massive.
26. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The 5C sales are massive. Even at 150,000 daily, that is massive since it translates into about 55 million units on a run rate basis.
Some people can't do 4th-grade math.
43. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Some people have huge dreams too. You have to be dreaming if you think the 150k daily is going to continue for the full year. The i5 sold 89 million, the 5C isn't going to reach that point. The i5 sales also weren't cut in half like the 5C is, just weeks after release too. Only big cuts in price is going to save the 5C from being an embarrassment.
You don't even need 4th-grade math to know that.
71. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Another example of foot in mouth disease.
44. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9092; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Manufacturing 150K a day doesn't mean they're selling lol. Look what happened to BB with the Z10.
BB and T-Mo store across the street still has the first shipment of iPhone 5C in stock. No one wants a cheap, colorful phone when they can have the iPhone 5 at the same exact price.
69. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
PapaSmurf -- which is it? Is 300,000 units a day too high, 150,000 units a day too low?
A lot of ignorant people don't understand these current production amounts are for the launch and the 5C goes to steady state production as is the case with the prior iPhones.
The 5C will sell quite well in the months following the launch. This is especially true when you look at past statistics, e.g. how the iPhone 4 sold when it was free.
These same ignorant people failed to see how massive the iPhone 4 sales really ended up.
25. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Sniggly, Apple is stilling rolling out the phone across the world?
So what did you exactly call? The country with high GDP (excluding China) were part of the initial roll-out?
33. Sniggly (Posts: 7208; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I called it that sales of the phone didn't match Apple's expectations. Sales are still good, but supply has definitely exceeded demand.