Apple iPhone 5c not expected to impact Android sales
0. phoneArena 12 Sep 2013, 00:42 posted on
Apple is undoubtedly hoping that its new iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c will be able to help the company push back against the wave of Android devices that are taking over markets around the world, but as yet there haven't been too many experts, or even that many blog pundits who believe that Apple's new products can do that, and the word is no different from DigiTimes' sources...
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1. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3264; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
iPhone 5C is a fail. It's too costly, otherwise overall features are good..Oops I mean same except iPlastic.
4. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
You are esstentially getting the iPhone 5 for less; therefore, the too costly argument is just dumb. The plastic and colors will appeal to teens and women.
On't be surprised to see iPod Touch in plastic or / and new line of iPhones in plastic.
9. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
" you are essentially getting the iPhone 5 for less..."
....except its not cheaper than the iPhone 5.....
19. boosook (Posts: 1171; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
No, it's not cheaper, you must consider that with the "old" apple policy, you would have been able to buy the 5 at a lower price after the 5c release. This time, though, the iphone 5 will not be available anymore and replaced by the 5c, that is essentially the same phone but heavier, thicker and made of plastic and without the premium design of the flagship. Yet, it will cost MORE than the price aplle usually asks for he previous model. So you pay more twice: first because the price is higher, second because you're forced to buy a mid range model instead of a previous flagship.Anyway, if apple users are fine with this policy, that won't be a problem for apple, but you must realize that apple is fooling you once again.
25. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Assumptions can hurt you. Apple has never stated that the iphone 5C was suppose to be considered a cheap device to compete in emerging markets, those were all rumors. Apple has never promised that the iPhone 5 would cost $99. It's our fault for assuming that releasing a new iPhone automatically constitutes a $100 drop in the previous iPhone.
Even a year later, the iPhone 5 has very well kept it's value and as of a few weeks ago, people were still buying it for $199. Even a $129 price tag for the iPhone 5 would have been reasonable. At the end of the day it comes down to supply and demand and not "oh the iPhone 5 has been out for a year so we'll drop it $100"
26. frydaexiii (Posts: 1262; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Oh wow, you're so delusional you're starting to find excuses just to defend Apple trying to rip their consumers off...
No, ever since the iPhone3GS was released, this was their pattern, New one comes in at $199, Previous flagship drops to $99 and previous previous flagship is free. That's the way it was for the 3GS, the 4, the 4S and the 5, no assumptions. But now, Apple decided that giving the iPhone 5 at $99, they're not earning enough (as usual), so they come up with the sad excuse for a mid-ranger called the 5C, being sold at the price the 5 should have been sold at, but cheaper to build, simple as that.
44. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
I EXPECTED the iPhone 5 to cost $99 as well (and still think it should have). The point is that Apple does not HAVE to sell it at that price. Do you understand that???
Instead of all this whining and complaining about the 5C's price, let the market speak for itself. If people think that the iPhone 5C is overpriced, they will not buy. If they think it isn't, they will. Simple as that. It's for the consumers to decide and not you angry online fanboys to say what should and shouldn't be. I'm pretty interested to see how public reception to the 5C unfolds in the upcoming weeks/months, so far it's actually looking positive.
If you guys would take a second to stop thinking about last year's price drop and instead focus on the current lineup and the new potential audience, then your opinions may change. This is obviously not aimed to be moral/altruistic move, but the point is that it COULD be a very good BUSINESS move if the colors attract new iPhone users. They obviously feel that demand for the 5C will be high even at the $99 price point...they're probably right.....
40. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
Both of the phones are not on par, nor do they perform as many actions or features as flagship androids, and even some windows phones for that matter. So how is the Device not overpriced? They still do not have HD Screens for crying out loud!!! And they're PPI is still LOWER than most flagship devices out there.
I could sell you a Toyota Corolla for the same price as a Lexus IS250, they'll both get you from A to B, but the Corolla is definitely overpriced if it is sold this way. Apple products especially their phones and Tablets are no different.
46. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Yet many reviewers (including phonearena) still considers the iPhone 5's screen to be one of the best...
41. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
"oh the iPhone 5 has been out for a year so we'll drop it $100" policy is exactly what apple has been following for a while now.
looks like you have just woken up....
And about the price to spec ratio, all apple devices are overpriced-but if you take into account the "apple tax", $200 for a flagship is fine, as thats what the competition is doing; except that they dont take 1 year to drop their prices from that
45. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
If next year HTC launches the most amazing smartphone yet and offers it at $229 instead of $199, can we get mad? No and that's because the $199 price tag is not a "policy," it's a trend. People will buy the 5C at $99, the question is how many. If demand is high expect the price to hold, if not the price will drop. Simple
20. frydaexiii (Posts: 1262; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
No it's not, if the iPhone 5C didn't exist, then the iPhone 5 would have taken the 2nd slot of the iPhone line which always cost $99. Now, Instead of paying $99 for a so called "premium" metal designed phone, you're getting a "cheap"ly built, crappy looking fisher price toy.
15. TechBizJP08 (Posts: 495; Member since: 25 Mar 2013)
if you are to choose between i5 and i5C, when it comes to build quality. i5C cannot replace the i5 price wise. Unless you drop the i5C price way down.
22. noim1 (Posts: 297; Member since: 15 May 2012)
Talking abt making a Dent in the Android sales ...It wont even put a Scratch !!!
14. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Even though I too personally dislike the 5C, I still think that millions of people will like a colorful iPhone 5. I know some people who actually WANT the 5C over the iPhone 5 just because they rather have a colorful iPhone. I think we're ignoring the possibility that more people will actually prefer the 5C at $99 than the iPhone 5 at the same price.
As far as Im concerned, if Samsung can sell the S4 for $199 (which many days feel terrible), then I don't see a problem with selling a plastic/color phone iPhone 5 (which reviewers say actually feels good in the hand) for $99
43. iDroid8 (Posts: 155; Member since: 16 Oct 2012)
You are comparing "feel in the hand" of a 4 incher to a 5 incher?
Where's the comparison?
And wont those "millions of people" pay any heed to the features they are getting? Better get some colourful toy then
48. E.N. (Posts: 2419; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
"You are comparing "feel in the hand" of a 4 incher to a 5 incher?"
Yes. Your point?
3. Lift_Off (Posts: 152; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
I think most people don't get the concept of the 5c, which is to replace the iphone 5. It is priced the same as the iPhone 5 would be when the 5s comes out at $100, so now instead of getting the 5 if you don't have the $200 to spend on the 5s, you can get the 5c, which has color options, a better battery, and is slightly faster than the 5. The phone really isn't meant to be purchased off contract either, because people looking for a great phone deal aren't looking to spend the money it costs to buy any high end phone at an off-contract price.
7. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2015; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
That makes no sense.....they are same thing..
11. Doakie (Posts: 1424; Member since: 06 May 2009)
Yeah I agree, all the opinion pieces written saying that the iPhone 5c was designed for emerging markets were wrong. Apple was looking at the iPhone 5 not being profitable enough once it was placed into second place so they cheapened it up by using plastic. Now PROFIT.
Honestly if it wasn't for its $99 price tag on contract I wouldn't even be considering it for my mother in law. I've had her using Android phones for years and I just think they're too complex for her to understand how to use them to their potential. She needs a smartphone with training wheels.
36. ddeath (Posts: 165; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)
How could it be faster when it is the same hardware? Perhaps it is software optimisation but that would come later to iPhone 5 as well. Makes no sense.
5. joey_sfb (Posts: 3725; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
iPhone 5s make more sense as personal purchase option if I getting an iPhone but I set to get note 3 and galaxy gear combo package.
6. THE.DARK.KNIGHT (banned) (Posts: 269; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)
High quality aluminum and glass or fake leather plastic + fake metal ring around the phone which is made of plastic...... Your choice
10. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1635; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
haha you focus on design in terms of OS and evrything else Note 3 annilates the iPhone!!!!!
13. Doakie (Posts: 1424; Member since: 06 May 2009)
With how I've seen iPhones in cases come out with pits and scratches I'll take the plastic please... Just like the argument that leather seats are better than cloth, leather is too hot in the summer time and too cold in the winter time... How bout you do what just makes sense and buy cloth... Metal phones look nice new but just like Jaime Rivera says on Pocket now "Brushed aluminum looks beautiful in the beginning but it doesn't age well."
37. ddeath (Posts: 165; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)
That's true. Saw my friend's black iPhone 5 which he used for a few months without a case and it is in horrendous condition! I was like, what the hell!
17. joey_sfb (Posts: 3725; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
fake leather over genius leather, no animal has to die so I could feel great holding the note 3.
23. iMedo (Posts: 2; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)
I think you must put a radiator to your note 3 to avoid the over heating
18. zaidalrawi80 (Posts: 20; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
So why all this hatred to Apple?? any why it's personal thing if one likes or dislike but the truth Apple over years presented a high quality products and for years i use it and didn't face any problem like what people with Android complain of their devices and in addition Phil Schiller said we replaced iPhone 5 with 5c so no cheap iPhone at all!! iPhone is the best handset ever very smart and smooth and only company which offers hight quality accessories.. Android in only OS and could be worked with different handset manufacturers and the people who hate what apple offers can easily compare iPhone with any Samsung to find the bad quality and bad support and even there is no sense of luxury..
32. bittertruth247 (Posts: 31; Member since: 03 May 2013)
No offense to what you just said in your statement but all of that is absolutely not true!! Don't know if you've ever seen any of my blogs but I work for Best Buy Mobile, I've sold cellphones for over 12 years and I have 8 activated cellphones, all mine and the Iphone is not the best handset ever, in fact, it's one of the worse phones ever created because of it's os!! You have no idea how many problems Iphone customers have! Apple consumers are naive in that thinking simple is better yet spend almost $100 a month for a phone that can't do things I was doing 6 years ago! The Samsung S4 is quite possibly the best phone ever made besides the Palm Treo 650 and that's not because of Samsung itself, it's because the phone and the os together give you every possible thing you can do with a phone right now and at least 4 years from now because of the battery life, the processing speed, customization, free apps, and the functionality! Anyone with android who has problems, it's usually because they don't take the time to read the manual one time or it was an old android that was bad and don't realize that technology evolves! It's like saying I don't like Microsoft because of Windows Vista, move on! I never have any problems with my androids, it's the iphone that's always messed up! But that's the fun thing about life, we all have choices, I at least get my money's worth with my choices, the iphone doesn't do that!
42. Penywyz (banned) (Posts: 255; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)
I work for Big Red, and I see more defective iPhones, with poor reception, broken lock buttons, cracked "Gorilla Glass" screens than any other device we carry. Very VERY false statement.
I see software issue on an almost daily basis. Contact apps completely disappearing, volume not working for media and working for other things inexplicably, pictures auto deleting themselves, it goes on and on and on.
Not saying that Androids do not have problems, nothing is error proof or break proof, the laws of science and physics simply do not allow that. But you would think as old and antiquated as iOS is they would've worked out the bugs by now.
21. iMedo (Posts: 2; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)
no one from the other side (I mean android users) can talk about the plastic of iPhone 5C
it's not cheap plastic like other junk (Samsung and other android devices)
I think only the back cover plastic that everyone talking about it is equal to Samsung S4 price
the whole device is cheap (if we consider it the best android device) but the iPhone 5C is not
before everyone talk badly about this masterpiece watch the video
49. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Hey, glad to see that cult is treating you well.
24. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Apple iPhone 5c not expected to impact Android sales"
27. procopiojose (Posts: 132; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
iPhone = apple phone
iPad = apple tablet
iPod = apple mp3 player
iDiot = apple sheep
28. skullman (Posts: 20; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)
haha iPhone 5c = the biggest joke of the year
29. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Things that have been said and proven wrong...
The iPhone will destroy Android when it comes to Verizon.
The iPhone will destroy Android when it comes to Sprint.
The iPhone will destroy Android when it comes....well, by then no one was saying it would destroy Android by being on T-Mobile. Sprint and Verizon proved that wrong.
Meanwhile, during that entire time Android has risen to 80% world market share. MS doesn't get it and Apple is very slowly starting to understand the freedom people feel when they can customize their phones. You bought it, you should be able to do what you want with it.
And part of Android's rise is coverage on all areas of cost, something Apple will never understand after seeing the price of the 5C.
31. HansGoneInsane (unregistered)
The only reason why Android has more marketshare than iOS is that Apple has decided for going premium price strategy. How can Apple be something special if 80% of all smartphones would be iPhones? I guarantee you, if Apple lowered the prices of iPhones to Android level, Apple would be the market leader because they have built up such a great reputation among people. Almost everyone would go for an iPhone if they were the same price as Android phones. But Apple needs low marketshare to maintain their exclusivity. Even though I think they should strive for 20 to 25% of marketshare, Apple is performing pretty good. Don't forget that they make 50% of the smartphone industry profits. I think it is rather you that hasn't understood yet how successful Apple's strategy actually works.
33. Fallout09 (Posts: 419; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Delusional explanation. Small market share to maintain their exclusivity? More like Apple is not willing to disrupt their profit margins and now trying to bamboozle their customers into thinking this plastic phone is worth the price they set.
34. Googler (Posts: 813; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
Biggest problem with your analysis is you feel Apple wants small market shares. This is simply untrue in every way. Apple would take 80% market share without hesitation because their profits would be astronomically high if that were to happen. It's one of the reasons Steve Jobs always went after Android while ignoring the other operating systems out there, Android was taking the share which prevented Apple from having it.
It's really sad people have to come to such conclusions in order to justify paying so much for a device. Apple is not about being exclusive, they are about being dominant in every way. Anyone who has taken a good look at Apple since they released the iPhone would know that.
35. ehenry818 (Posts: 3; Member since: 29 Jul 2013)
I think one of the biggest mistakes that Apple made was the size. Yes some people do the like 4" form factor, but most Android users want bigger phones. I don't think Android user are going to run out and but an iphone just because they have a cheaper one. If Apple wanted to try to get Android users to switch, they should have released a larger one. Personally I would not buy an iphone. Another thing Apple could do to try to get customers is add a few things like widgets, ability to not have everything on the main screen, allow custom launchers etc. So many simple things that iOS is missing I think that would really help them out.
38. Fallout09 (Posts: 419; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
Seems like a logical explanation for some people.
39. ddeath (Posts: 165; Member since: 14 Apr 2012)
That's true. I don't know what is their concern about going more than 4 inches. Last time every Apple follower said 3.5 inches was the best, then they changed their mind when they realised they were falling behind in screen sizes. Changed to 4 inches and every follower said it was the best again. The inifinity blade game they were waxing about during the event, how much details they are putting in, how much graphics load they are throwing at the phone, yet it performs beautifully, look at the dragon scale etc. At the same time I was wondering, can I appreciate all that on a small screen? End of the day, fixing all the phones at one screen size only means one thing, getting fabulous pricing from the manufacturer, and incredible profits.
47. Gatman (Posts: 18; Member since: 07 Sep 2013)
There really nothing apple can do. There is too many great android handsets