Apple iPhone 5S: all new features review
0. phoneArena 11 Sep 2013, 04:52 posted on
This year the big thunder in the bi-annual "S" upgrade comes in the form of a 64-bit A7 chipset, which seems to be ahead of its app development times, but is a first for a smartphone nonetheless. Same goes for the fingerprint sensor embedded right into a brand new sapphire home button, which, however, won't be doing anything more useful than unlocking the phone, as Apple won't store your fingerprint readings on its servers, and 3rd party developers won't be allowed to use it as authentication method - there goes that vast mobile payment network we were jonessing about...
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8. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)
Apple is unfortunately running out of innovations. The stiff attitude that brand name will sell isn't working either.
12. MONUQ (Posts: 31; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
May be decreasing stock price will give their head a ring...
But wait ...Oh $hit!!!!!
Didn't they got last year after launch of IP5......
35. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Gold and black looks better than white and gold™
2. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
The only exciting thing about the latest announcements were iOS 7, that's all, I expected so much from Apple, and they gave little back.
3. zuckerboy (banned) (Posts: 898; Member since: 22 Dec 2011)
apple looking like ''nokia 5 years ago''.
5. rycx365 (Posts: 37; Member since: 18 Mar 2011)
My only complaint about 5s is that the vibrant, bright design of IOS 7 doesn't match the classy, elegant design of the 5s.
IOS 7 fits great on to the 5c though!
24. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6740; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
PA will just bad mouth the beautiful how expensive the Z1 is and not talking bout it's 20 MP cam.
10. haim_04 (Posts: 6; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)
this camera on iPhone 5S will beat up so easily Samsung, Sony, Nokia (all Nokia has is inferiror zoom and that's all)... why are u all surprised about iPhone 5C, it is reasonable move because they can't cut off the price of current iPhone 5, it is more expensive to produce it than iPhone 5C
and they wouldn't have expected earning
11. alexfiran (Posts: 40; Member since: 13 Jun 2013)
you can say everything about nokia but not about their cameras..love it or hate it they got the best cameraphones out there. period. I only wish there was a DSLR made by Nokia, or at least a point and shoot camera
16. mrturner (Posts: 16; Member since: 10 Sep 2013)
Compare the iPhone camera to anything nokia has produced? You\'re high on cheap drugs!!!
17. wildfiregt (Posts: 105; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
In case you don't know it. The iphone 5s feature a F2.2 wide aperture camersa which is as wide as the Galaxy s4 (13 Mp vs 8Mp here) Don't talk without a fair test.
29. jshan (Posts: 199; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Like it says mp isn't the all u need on a camera !! Samsung just trying yet !! Sorry pal ! Shut your hole and enjoy what u own or what u like !! Don't try to prove any unless u know a thing !! Good luck with your current smartphone !
46. wildfiregt (Posts: 105; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
I probably know more about photography than you ,did i mention that S4 has a better camera than the 5s ? no cuz we didn't see anything yet. I'm just telling the guy that unless there are no tests, we cannot say which one is better
13. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
I don't understand why people keep bashing on Apple for not reinventing the "smartphone". Why don't people have as high expectations from another phone manufacturer ? Is it OK for, say, Samsung or Motorola to release a new model with a specs bump from its previous generation, but, when Apple does it, it's a disappointing failure ? It's just a phone people. Disregard Apple's pompous marketing, see if it fits your needs and budget and then take it or leave it.
19. jb4674 (Posts: 141; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
People pick on Apple because Apple charges its customers a big premium for a phone that can easily be outdone by any other manufacturer (Galaxy S4, Xperia Z, Z1, Nokia Lumia 1020, HTC One, etc.).
With more people wanting bigger screens, Apple is still chugging along with a diminutive screen and lacking options. Apple's closed minded design does not allow the customer truly control/enhance the device and it clearly shows when other devices are pushing the envelope by allowing external storage, using beefier proessors, bigger batteries, etc.
Do you understand now?............
37. jbitounis (Posts: 54; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
I understand your point of view. However, it is debatable whether "beefier" specifications are synonymous to innovation. Arguably, one of the most innovative Android phones of 2013 has last year's specs (Moto X). Reversely, would you feel Apple would have innovated if iPhone 5s sported a 5-inch screen, had a 3000mAh battery and an SD card slot ? I wouldn't. Apple, or anyone else for that matter, just cannot reinvent the smartphone every year. In my opinion, the smartphone experience will stay fundamentaly the same and can olnly be improved upon - at least untli there is a huge technological achievement on another field (materials etc).
Finally, some people (a lot, apparently) just don't care for the lack of customizability of iPhone and prefer instead the feeling of being catered for by Apple through a very polished albeit sandboxed experience. It's whatever floats your boat, really.
39. 9thWonderful (Posts: 232; Member since: 24 Jan 2013)
So in a nutshell you're saying...all phones should take the same approach. more power, bigger screens, external storage. I understand now...hypocrisy is in style.
14. taikucing (unregistered)
I don't see any new features. Just some gimmicks
15. androiphone20 (Posts: 1521; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)
you got some issues 64-bit is innovation all the other devices are like xp now
20. jb4674 (Posts: 141; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Actually it's not innovation. All it means now is that Apple is going to pull a typical d1ck move and enforce that all apps be created using 64-bit architecture so that any devices running 32-bit won't be able to update to the new version unless that customer buys a new iPhone.
Yeah, real innovation.....
FU Apple! I can't wait to get rid of my POS iPhone and buy an Xperia Z1.
18. samzkrnd (Posts: 13; Member since: 02 Feb 2013)
My notebook has fingerprint scanner..(3 years ago)
26. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6740; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
My Atrix ha've the finger scanner 2 yrs ago.
47. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
smartphones had capacitive touch displays since forever, doesn't mean you can't improve on them.
21. AfterShock (Posts: 2985; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
My theory is the FP sensor is going to harm more then help, its not so much the tech that is to blame as it is to understand, your skin an print change over the course of a day in the real world.
Hands are tools an dry, get soggy, get rubbed off etc, FP readers do not like that and thus leading to lock out situations.
I'm not saying it won't work majority of time, but I am saying it won't work some if the time.
22. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2866; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
I liked the camera photo quality only, they're good with just 8 MP.
23. 1701nino (unregistered)
This was expected of apple,this is the year of an "S" upgrade,next year they will surely release a phone with 2048x1536 resolution display,maybe 5' inch,my only gripe is that the iphone 5c isn't cheaper.
27. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
This, by far, is the biggest step an S model has taken for the iPhone. I think Apple is starting to get the picture that they absolutely cannot just do small updates and expect people to flock to them. Google, Samsung, and HTC have done an awesome job at not only catching up to Apple, but drawing people's attention away from the iPhone as well. This is the first iPhone S model I've been excited for. And I'm excited for the future. Remember iOS 7 was born only a few months after Scott Forstall was ousted. And having had iOS 7 for a few months now, Apple has made huge steps. I can only imagine what will result from them having a full year to work on iOS 8 with a brand new iPhone.
People keep throwing around the world innovative and how the iPhone 5S lacks it. But the thing is, you're not going to find many innovations that will wow you like they did a few years back. When the iPhone marched into the smartphone market (back then it was just a feature phone) it was innovative because it was made for the consumer and to be honest, smartphone manufacturers before it were lazy (except BB). Now that all there are so many players in the smartphone market, you're going to be pressed to find a monolithic innovator like Apple was. The most recent Galaxy S was called gimmicky. The new iPhone is being called evolutionary instead of revolutionary. But I think that's going to be the trend. As we move forward, things are going to take smaller steps. Companies that try to do too much without a core focus will be called gimmicky. Companies that take small focused steps will be called evolutionary. They may both get rave reviews, but they won't wow us like they used to.
28. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
I think the finger print access is much needed for all smartphones. People are growing increasingly tired of passwords and Touch ID will solve problems with stolen iPhones and hopefully will help with site usernames and passwords. Sure, Apple doesn't give sites access to finger prints, but with Keychain, I'm hoping you'll go to a site, flick your thumb on the Touch ID sensor and have it automatically enter your username and password.
The M7 chip is also exciting. Given how active some people are becoming (hopefully more), the M7 will work well with 3rd party apps to give a more accurate picture of miles ran/biked/walked. Even if we don't see an iWatch, this will be awesome.
And as a very amateur photographer, I always appreciate the better camera.
30. sks1969 (Posts: 86; Member since: 04 Mar 2012)
Don't know how secure this is. They explained how the finger print data is saved but a 101 things can go wrong in between, I mean the software the takes the input from user could be hacked, that is why I guess no devs get access. We cannot be sure that all devs do secure programming.
34. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
They said the print information is stored in the processor and not uploaded to Apple's database or to iCloud. Probably smart considering all that is going on with the NSA. It would be difficult to hack into the processor.
33. good2great (Posts: 1040; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
you changed your name? i remember you from before. what's been up man?
40. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
Not much. Still staying up with the tech world. PhoneArena lost much of its conversation as people started hating Apple more and more so I took a while off. I still read the stories, but refrain from commenting. I changed my name legally so I changed it on here too.
43. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
Posting after a very long time....
Someone else is using your avatar?
50. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
Nope...Chaseism and JeffdaBeat are the same person...
31. xfire99 (Posts: 570; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
Would like too see a test of fingerprint scanner can be fooled by a "copy" of fingerprint, like face unlock for android.
Will be very unsecure , if it can be fooled like androids face unlock with a picture and gold mine for thieves to steal info from the phone. All biometric scanners on smartphones/tablets are best to avoid to use, if have importants data stored and passwords is the best choice.
64 Bit cpu is just a gimmick, unless it comes with 4GB RAM.
Only worth to mention is the camera and Im sure it will take nice pictures.
36. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
That one I'm not sure about. Apple said it's a capacitive touch on the sensor so you wouldn't be able to hold a photocopy of the finger print to unlock the phone. Any more advanced steps would mean someone REALLY wanted to get into your phone and Apple's protection shouldn't be the only line of defense. This will help people when it comes to losing their phones and others not being able to guess the passcode. It would also help with parents making it so their kids can't randomly buy apps or music.
The CPU is all about how programmers use it. So far, the iPhone not the apps used on it has suffered from a lack of RAM. Apple tends to give the iPhone exactly what it needs to run the OS and apps. From the start iOS has sipped when it comes to power consumption. But I do think this is a result of them trying to get into the gaming industry. Right now, Nintendo is struggling with the Wii U, but doing well with their handhelds. Apple is probably looking to grab that market. We'll see.
32. reTechboy (Posts: 2; Member since: 11 Sep 2013)
i think other countries should ban the entrance of iphone 5s in their country, cause this phone just design to be spy on peoples for USA,
imagine if someone touch the home bottom, the phone will automatically send his/her finger print and his/her pic (via front cam) to NSA or other secret agencies!!! and after 1 year USA will have an information bank of at least 1 billion people in earth!!!
38. Chaseism (Posts: 82; Member since: 08 May 2013)
I hope this post was in jest...but just in case, I'd recommend you reading a bit of Apple's posts about the fingerprint scanner. If you don't like reading, watch the video (they are actually short for once). Basically, they store the print information in the A7 processor. It's not uploaded to iCloud or Apple's servers. The government would have to actively hack your phone's software in order to grab that information. I'm not sure on the law with that. They can intercept information sent and received over the airwaves (voice/text/data), but I don't think they can go further without a warrant. And remember how hard it was to jailbreak the iPhone because Apple started having things authenticated through the A5/6 chip.
Also, the US has been intercepting calls no matter who made it. Your phone's mic can be turned on even if Samsung or HTC manufactured it. Same goes for landlines. If you band the iPhone 5S because of that, you'd have to ban all phones.
41. abd.champ (Posts: 7; Member since: 09 Feb 2013)
A moment of silence for all the Apple fanboys on the gayest phone launched ever *Scans his middle finger on the fingerprint id sensor* #iPhone5s
45. Jphones (Posts: 235; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
You apple supporters really put a smile on my face. Are you guys seriously hyping a cpu upgrade that won't be fully utilized to it's full capabilities? A Ferrari engine in a go kart is still a go kart. The phone is smaller then feature phones. Ios7 looks like samsung easy mode on my s4. Just stop it apple 5sucked again. Money money money could careless about user wants and industry standards. Apple should be sued for being this dumb and charging this much for a speedy go kart and it's push kart brother that's some how almost the same price. Ridiculous
48. rawbow (Posts: 428; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
Looks who's saying CPU upgrade that wouldn't be utilized bwhahahaha!!
49. jb4674 (Posts: 141; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
Apple would gain more customers if they did three simple things to the iPhone:
1. Add removable storage
2. Increase the size of the screen (5" +)
3. Outfit the device with a larger capacity (3000mAh and above) battery
If the suggestions above were to be implemented on the iPhone, they could charge a single price for the device and make the customer happy because he/she would be able to upgrade the storage on the phone anytime, have a larger display that would allow more productivity and not have to worry about charging the device constantly.
51. zaidalrawi80 (Posts: 20; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
Who says Apple products are out of the innovation so WHY Samsung cribs from Apple and put to its devices?