Apple iPhone 4S sales go over 4 million in the opening weekend
1. afterthoughts11 (unregistered)
Strange, I haven't read one article about Verizon's sales performance with the
new iPhone. Is it selling below expectations for some reason? Anyone know anything
or care to chime in?
4. ReturningToNokia (Posts: 130; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
Well, given that Verizon's money maker is the 'Droid' lineup and with the immenent release of the Nexus device, touting the their iP4s sales might be counter productive as it might diminish the foot traffic for the new Nexus device.
Nonetheless, it was reported that all three carriers sold out of pre-orders, it's just that only ATT and Sprint gave actual press releases regarding that.
13. snowgator (Posts: 3417; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Let's not forget that Verizon threw in with Samsung on the court case in which Apple is trying to ban the Galaxy line. Big Red doesn't feel their future is as tied to Apple as Sprint does and doesn't have the history with them AT&T does. They hit over 100 million customers all on their own, and have the most advanced LTE network in the world, and always rank at the top of consumer satisfaction. I am sure they love the sales, but seems as though they refuse to get married ot them. Wish they would get some WP devices. I would jump to them in a heartbeat.
60. nb2six (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)
VZW's system was having issues all weekend too. It was causing activation problems with multiple retailers.
112. andro. (Posts: 1990; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)
I haven't read an article on phone arena yet about how poor the iphone 4s battery is turning out to be. Google it online and theres loads of complaints rising about the battery losing up to 20% per hour,and ther phone really really overheating.
ios5 it seems is a big issue of this also as alot of iphone 4 owners now saying the same
115. TheFunnyMan (Posts: 77; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
It is below sales expectations because Apple, as a company, likes to underproduce units. Great for their bottom line, terrible for Verizon sales reps like myself that watch customers walk out the door because they want a product that I have no ability to aquire for them now, and they arent willing to wait for me to have one ordered to the store.
2. ivanko34 (Posts: 617; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
And what about the shortage ? remember no stock not enough phones ? It was a big lie of the apple marketing gestapo ?
5. msa1988 (Posts: 418; Member since: 30 Mar 2010)
Oh yeah, when? This "brand new", revolutionary 4S was "supposed" to be released back in the spring. Don't hold your breath for the iPhone 5, Apple will milk the teet of the 4S before it even fathoms the idea to release a new phone...
6. JJ (unregistered)
No need to feel sorry for me. I had the iPhone3 before, so switching to the 4S has been quite the upgrade for me. I suspect those that were in a similar situation as myself are quite happy with their purchase as well.
90. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)
There's a new iPhone released every year...? I just wait til my 2 year agreement is up each time... I'm in no rush to upgrade.
And also, the iPhone 5 will probably have the same guts and a redesigned look.. Kind of like the 3GS to 4 upgrade. So no loss there.
106. Penny (Posts: 1478; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Why was som's comment moderated? It was relevant and not too disrespectful.
7. Mike S (unregistered)
Given my experience with friends and colleges in the office, at lot of those sales are replacement phones. Not necessarily 4 millions new customers.
12. Jake16 (Posts: 10; Member since: 18 Nov 2009)
And the same goes for the Galaxy S and S II, i bet a lot of them were replacement phones from people with other phones, not necessarily 30 million new customers, think about it
15. Slammer (Posts: 1486; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
I think this is half true. In my day we used have what they call a death chain. Sales would be in correlation of the same group of individuals. It means that the new issue would be purchased and these people would sell their old one to someone that had the model previous to that one. Cult following, Recycled products.
However, we cannot dismiss new customers of the iPhone. Sprint has never sold the iPhone before and VZW sales were low on an anticipation of this issue. Obviously, this will play big in new sales. But, what I have found particularly interesting, is that it appears a good percentage of new iPhone users, have come from owning blackberries. Not Android. They interviewed many people in our area lining up for the iPhone, and many said they have blackberries and felt this was the time to try an iPhone. It's an interesting common denominator. Several even admitted to not even trying Android.
As a recovering iPhone owner, now owning an Android phone, I value choices but also feel Android becomes underrated in time of iPhone launches. The marketing hype Apple creates at these times, simply trumps Google's Android.
I enjoyed my one and only iphone, but I have found a home with Android.
8. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
wow great for Apple. Apple's been breaking their own records every year..
14. PhoneArena Team (Posts: 240; Member since: 27 Jun 2006)
No need to start flame wars here :)
16. Whateverman (Posts: 3237; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Oh my gosh!!! Thank you so much for nipping that in the bud. Anyway, 4 million in just a few days is pretty darn impressive, no matter what your preference is.
66. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Oh yeah PA, really good work. I don't see any moderation here.
17. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
How do you think that can affect android users? And how does that affect you? wanna elaborate?
11. snowgator (Posts: 3417; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Good for them. Those two guys in the picture sure seem happy. Swept off their feet. iPhone sure promotes emotions from everyone, don't it?
18. ryq24 (Posts: 622; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
its too early to say if this iphone 4s is a success just by this sales number. this is like a much anticipated movies, a lot of people watch it in the first day but by 2nd week, it plunge cause all the people who want to watch it already did. so the question is can iphone 4s hold on and sustain for the long run till iphone 5 comes out.
19. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Okay. Not entirely unexpected, considering that over twice as many potential customers are now able to get the iPhone.
These have to be worldwide sales, I imagine. Not just US sales.
67. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Wrong. It IS US sales. And clearly it shows iPhone 4S outsells any other smartphone. The statistics speak for themselves, Sniggy.
74. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Wrong, the article does not distinguish the 4 million as being from the US alone, because the iPhone was launched in multiple countries over the weekend.
Even for a troll that was a f**king stupid thing for you to say.
116. TheFunnyMan (Posts: 77; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
Man, that was some kind of ignorant comment there.
21. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
When I predicted 4 million iPhone sales I believe remix bashed me for it.
26. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
7. taco50 posted on 2 days ago, 19:17 5 5
My predictions are 4 million iPhones sold by Monday including pre order sales. I also predict 30% of android users will switch over when everything is done. It will be gradual because some aren't eligible to upgrade yet. I think with this launch android market share drops back down to 30 some % and iPhone will go above the 30% mark.
These are all just my guesses of course. I could be way off.
27. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And remix response?
21. remixfa posted on 2 days ago, 20:02 2 3
way off its about the most accurate thing you said. Androids activate nearly a million a day. Yay, you got 2 million in a weeks worth of preorders. Wonder who just sold more? And it just said 8% of android owners switched. The nexus launches soon, cant wait to see how many iphone people that are pissed about that 3.5 inch screen and missing all those features will be jumping ship. the SGS2 has already been outselling the i4 for the last 6 months, something tells me if the Nexus is actually IN store this time, it will be outselling the i4s.
"way off its about the most accuret thing you've said"
30. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
How could you copy and paste Remixes response and then fail so miserably at spelling "accurate" when highlighting the first sentence?
33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Grasping at straws. You have a problem with my typo, but no issue with the fact remix was dead wrong. He claims people will jump ship for sgs2. Why not be upset that he's obviously biased and out of touch for saying that.
39. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
The typo was not supposed to be a major point, just a side quip. Furthermore, Remix is, like me, calling bulls**t on the percentage you threw out there more than the sales figure of 4 million (which was predicted by analysts anyway). He had solid reasons for doubting that percentage, and considering how freaking sweet the Galaxy S 2 is, it'll probably win over some iPhone users. Hell, I've even gotten iPhone users interested (and sold on) the Atrix. So it can happen, especially with how well the SGS2 has sold worldwide.
46. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Read my quote of him below where he says iPhone sold only 2 million and calls it a fail in all caps.
You selling iPhone users on Atrix is not a success btw. It's said you push your biased agenda in your store, but you will take the hit on returns.
28. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I at least called bulls**t more on the 30 percent number, which of course you quietly revised down from the 52 percent you originally insisted on.
This of course was where I also called you out for pulling numbers out of your ass while yelling at me for trying to do facts and figures based on real values and basic math.
Yeah, your hypocrisy was majorly showing in that post.
32. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
There's no report on android users switching so how do you call bs?
My hypocrisy? I didn't do any math in my kitchen like you sniggly. I said it was just a guess. Guess what I was dead on. Fandroids bashed me including remix saying I was out of my mind. I live in reality though.
Get your foot out of your mouth and do a better job back pedaling
37. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Wait, in what reality am I backpedaling here? I said you would probably be wrong about percentages. We won't know this for sure until a few months from now, after the holiday season.
Furthermore, my point there was that you made a wild guess for no other reason than it sounded good, but when I try to not make a wild guess and instead try to figure out a number based on real life, you get mad at me. I may still be wrong, but at least I don't just randomly pick a good sounding number.
And sometimes you bash me for cooking numbers when all I do is copy and paste solid numbers from sources like APPLE ITSELF to point out a weird pattern in its reported sales.
40. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Well obviously it wasn't a wild guess because I was dead on.
You spent all that time going through Apple's quarterly reports for nothing. Or remember the time when you did math calculations trying to show thunderbolt was beating the iPhone in sales and all you had to do was look at VZW's quarterly report to see how wrong you were.
50. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Yes, I was wrong because I assumed a direct correlation between review frequency and sales that would remain constant across phone models. And I admitted I was wrong there.
And why was my time wasted going through Apple's reports? That weird pattern still exists in iPhone sales, so what gives?
52. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Once a company reaches a certain size giant growth is no longer achievable. Small incremental growth is what happens. Your numbers showed incremental growth.
63. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Actually, no. The numbers I dug from those reports showed a steady 2 millionish jump in sales quarter over quarter for the past several quarters, when in previous years in the same time period iPhone sales had steadily DROPPED prior to the introduction of the next iPhone.
25. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Jesus Taco, would it kill you to play nice for once, especially since I don't have to dig far to show you examples of being dead wrong and bashing others in your wrongness?
All I have to do is say "52 percent." Just try me.
34. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
52 percent was based on an article, but the BGR article had the source press release with the CORRECT numbers in it, clear as day. And the day the iPhone 4S was launched, you INSISTED that 52 was correct, insulted others for correcting/doubting you...and then never said a word when I corrected you with source links to prove it.
I'll at least grant you the dignity of admitting when you've proved me wrong, like when I got the order of events between Moto and Apple wrong.
But you dare come here and try to insult Remixfa for doubting you when a) he never explicitly said your 4 million sold prediction was incorrect and b) your 30 percent number is still pulled out of your ass?
Egad, man, going back to the 52 percent, even if the article hadn't gotten the numbers bass ackwards, you still would've been incorrect because the high percentages only applied in the survey if an iPhone FIVE was released. However, the Blackberry percentage dropped to 27 (from its 52) and the iPhone and Android percent dropped to 11 (from roughly 30 percent each) if an iPhone 4S was announced.
The bottom line here is: learn some f**king humility, because you've been stomped with the boots of truth more often than I can count now.
36. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Really besides this article which again I was quoting an article can you give us the giant list of of my errors.
remix never said I was wrong?
"way off its about the most accurate thing you said"
41. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
He never made a single argument against the 4 million prediction. His entire post focused on the percentage you threw out there.
And ooh. Do you really want me to go over the past year and mark off every instance of you being dead wrong or being a complete tool? Because I will, and I'll probably need a couple days and posts to give every example.
I mean, it'd be hilarious, and probably worth the time investment, but do you really want me to humiliate you like that?
Or would you rather just try not to be a prick to others for ostensibly being wrong sometimes, and recognize that sometimes you're just full of s**t yourself?
44. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Go ahead and go through the last year. It will show how deep your obsession with me is and also make you look like a tool. You'll find very little.
48. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'll find very little? Dude, instances of you being a tool to me personally could fill up the entire character limit of a post by themselves.
And no, I'm not obsessed with you. If I am, then you're obsessed with me. You spend more time attacking me than I do attacking you. Hell, you even talk about me to other posters way more than I do about you.
Would it really kill you to just not be an asshole to everyone you disagree with?
53. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I'm not an asshole to everyone. I just call out trolls on their bs
72. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
Bulls**t. Your first post here was an attempt to deliberately pick a fight because you happened to be right about something that no one was really telling you that you were wrong about.
54. JackFace (Posts: 190; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
You two need to hop on your cell phones and call each other, because honestly, it gets tiresome going through all these comments... LOL
24. jacko (unregistered)
how many androids total been sold and if it was just 1 handset manufactures not like the 20 odd if not more
35. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Fandroid tactic take the argument everywhere and still lose
56. JackFace (Posts: 190; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)
Yikes pal... settle down... one playful comment and you throw out the homophobe card...
You Mad Bro?
59. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Sniggly is not only the defender of all thing DROID. He also tirelessly defends all ***s and also women against any perceived chauvinism.
He's something like a super hero
64. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
It's the second homophobic comment I've seen so far on this thread, and there is nothing to indicate that the poster was simply being playful or harmless.
45. Sniggly (Posts: 7291; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
In this post Remix is only discussing preorders, not sales over first weekends. He may well be right about the 1.7 million preorders, it does sound somewhat correct. However, I'm not ready to fire up my computer and double check that figure yet.
47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
No need he's wrong again. 1.7 million was how many we're sold over the first weekend.