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Apple iPad mini just $199 from Target for this week only

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Apple iPad mini just $199 from Target for this week only
Looking for a good price on an Apple iPad? For this week only, Target will sell you the Apple iPad mini for $100 off. Normally $299, the discount retailer is offering the slate for $199. The deal is not available online, and is only available for the Wi-Fi version of the slate. In otherwords, there is no carrier connectivity on the discounted iPad mini tablets.

If a full sized Apple iPad is more your cup of tea (or whatever beverage you're consuming), you might want to take advantage of the $50 discount that Target is offering on the Apple iPad Air. The $50 discount applies to the complete iPad Air range.

Target might be looking to clear its inventory before the Apple iPad Air 2 and the Apple iPad mini 3 are expected to be released later this year. Whatever the reason, you have the balance of the week to take advantage of Target's largesse.

Buy the Apple iPad mini for just $199 at Target

Buy the Apple iPad mini for just $199 at Target


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source: Target via GottaBeMobile

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posted on 18 Aug 2014, 20:18 6

1. tettech (Posts: 65; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)


I almost got too excited, then I realize it's not the iPad Mini 2.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 20:20

2. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


It's not often that someone can buy a museum quality classic Apple tablet design for the low low price of just $199.

Just think -- it comes with thousands of pixels and and megabytes of RAM -- and you know that will always be enough to do magical things and have a magical life... because millions of iShëëple said so.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 20:27 11

3. a_merryman (Posts: 681; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Translation: "I'm angry because some people like different things from me!"

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 20:37 4

4. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


LMAOOOOO post of the day by far lol. +1. He left it over the plate with that comment, and you took him deep to center.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:00 2

5. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Original iShëëple: "I'm angry because some people like different things from me!"

Translation into English: "Baaaaahhhh! Baaaaaahhhhhh! Bad mean people say too much truth about my device.... Baaaaahhhhhh!!!!"

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:16 5

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Don't be butthurt, cuz you made a dumb a$$ Arte 8800 style post, and got smashed for it. Baaaaaaahhhhhh that hater, go take a butthurt nap.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:30

7. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Why iFans support Apple continuing to sell obsolete devices amazes me. iOS 8 either won't run or will run like crap on these old models. And with the way Apple pushes updates on people, a lot of customers of these old devices will end up with a semi-working device full of lag and bugs.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:57 2

9. bucky (Posts: 1494; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


Out of curiosity what version of android are you running?

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:17

11. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


For the record, I have quite a few devices, not just Android. All my Android devices are either 4.3.x or 4.4.x.

And yes, when I did use an iPhone, Apple forced an update on it that for all intents and purposes, ruined it.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:36 1

13. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


How did Apple forced an update on you? and what phone was that and what version of update were you "forced" to install?

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:22

38. Cicero (Posts: 395; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


You know the update is coming. And you start to be notified. You ignore it. They notified you again and again. You ignore it. And than most of the apps are upgraded according to the new os. And you are left behind. What you will do? Upgrade and ruin all the experience. Devices experienced this: 4, 4s and before.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:37 1

40. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


1. There is no other notification then a red dot on top right corner of your settings app to let you know update is ready. Older models? Yeah, I had a 3GS, it had a tiny red circle on settings app and that's it for iOS 4 upgrade, iOS5 upgrade, iOS6 upgrade, iOS6.x.x upgrade. No annoying notifications, buddy.

2. Apps do get upgraded and are even encouraged by Apple, buthttp://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/17/apples-ios-app-store-now-offers-last-compatible-versions-of-apps-for-older-devices

3. iPhone 4 on my list are probably the worst of all iPhones if I had to rate iPhones against iPhones when it came to updating to latest supported iOS (3GS handled 6.x.x wonderfully for example), I dont think 4 should have gotten the update, it was limited and caused problems. But from what I've seen nearly all 4S owners use iOS7 without problems.

3. Anything else you want me to clear up?

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:38 1

14. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Stop lying. That whole post is a lie.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:42

15. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


So which devices are they? because so far you're blowing smoke...

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:52 1

17. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


The last iPhone I owned was a 3GS and Apple pushed iOS 6.x.x to this old device which basically ruined it.

If you do a Google search, you will thousands of people who have been screwed by Apple forcing new iOS on their old devices. Apple's forced update policy exists so that Apple customers are forced to upgrade their hardware and so Apple's fragmentation numbers are lower.

Denying Apple's forced updates are a problem is just flat out fanboy BS.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:14 2

20. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Apple does not force updates. Your a$$ installed it.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:02 1

26. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


BS. I woke up in the morning and it had updated sometime during the night.

Do you want to deny that iOS 6.x.x ruins this old phone too? How much of a fool do you want to look like when I post the Google search results?

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:09

29. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Post them

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:58 1

44. a_merryman (Posts: 681; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Yeah, I've never had any trouble not installing the new updates if I don't want them. He's definitely lying about that. Whats more amazing is that the 3GS even got upgraded to iOS6, in fact I looked on wiki and apparently there was an update for it released on February 21st, 2014. That's crazy good support. Especially considering it was released in 2009!

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:28 1

50. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I forgot about that security update in 2014 (I already had iPhone 5s) I'm impressed by the same thing... I got that phone the day it came out and I used it up until iPhone 5s was available to buy - it was sold out in my city until I forced on to be reserved (any model) in October 2013. I really wanted a Space Gray 32GB but got Space Gray 16GB. But now I got 2TB on my iPhone as I have full access to my external harddrive at home - I stream music, movies, and keep all my camera roll instantly backed up without the need to transfer using iCloud control center, via cable (file transfer), via iTunes, or how androids do it - SD cards, uuughh...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:48

42. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


"I woke up in the morning and it had updated sometime during the night." Bull. You mean, you didn't go into settings, tapped on General, tapped on Software Updates, verified there's a software update available, then tapped to update button... I have never heard this from anyone. I had 3GS and I upgraded from iOS 3 thru iOS 6.x.x and all updates in between -- NOT ONCE has I woke up and it was updated automatically...

But even with iOS 6.2.7 (or something, cant remember) I had only one problem, when I typed the curser moved but letters appeared a second later (sometimes 2 seconds later if i'm typing in websites, not texting) and new games that came out after iOS6 were taking longer to load - but once loaded played good for a 4.5 year old device...

I can believe you had a problem with your phone as a few others as well, but you get isolated issues with any phone and any manufacturer - do not push your experience as if it was absolutely everyone using 3GS. I still know a person using 3GS today running latest update - it's pretty good - obviously not as fast as Samsung Galaxy 4s or 5s but it's does function as a 5 year old phone would.

Google results, ever tried typing in the same for Android phones of that times? Most of them have been trashed 6 months later after release for crying out loud.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:39

41. Cicero (Posts: 395; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)


iPhones downloads automatically the update. You lost that space. And like I said before you will be forced be 3-rd parties apps which are updated according to the new version. So if by accident you uninstall an app and want to reinstall you are doomed. The only version available is the new one. And this is how Apple forced you to ruin your phone and buy a new one. It happened to me (1, 3gs, 4) and this is why you will see a lot of iPhones that are used almost like dumb phones.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:06

46. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/17/apples-ios-app-store-now-offers-last-compatible-versions-of-apps-for-older-devices

Try again...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:10

47. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


"...and this is why you will see a lot of iPhones that are used almost like dumb phones."

Buddy I see all Android users use their phone like dumbphones. Ask any of them if they use Google NOW. "Yeah I use google, but not right now, i'm busy" lol - they have no idea what it is because it's being lost and ignored within the bloat thats preloaded on most Android phones.

That's why I'm here at PA (even though it's mostly populated by Android users) these are the only people I know that give any rats ass what our SMART PHONES are actually capable of. Plus I like reading troll posts and replying to generate a debate... lol.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:03 2

27. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


The butthurts showing. It's not your money, why the concern? It's not your Eco system, why the concern? See post #3

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:16

37. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Post #3 is nothing more than a BS assertion of my intentions and knowledge, i.e. a personal insult.

I have no idea why you think in terms of "butthurt". The original iPad mini is a POS device today. It has an ages old processor and is crippled by lack of RAM. I am not "butthurt" by this. I don't own this device, want this device, or care about this device. But I do care that Apple is still pushing this tired old product on the market without being honest about it.

Maybe I will post a pic of the old 3GS. It's late here, so I don't feel like tracking down the device. But tomorrow may be your coronation.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:55

43. a_merryman (Posts: 681; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)


Nope, post 3 just put into words what you were really doing. Whining about other people liking a product you don't like. I could have said you were insulting the intelligence of millions of people who like iOS and Apple products more for reasons that suit them, but I didn't.

And the original iPad mini is in no way crippled by lack of RAM or slow from that processor. My mom has one, it still plays any game and has a great battery life, never stutters or slows down.

That said I wouldn't buy one since I'd just wait for the the new iPad mini to come out in a month.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:18

48. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I use iPad 3 which is older than iPad Mini. I play Real Racing 3, Nitro (online), I use it to make home videos, and edit music (drop that bass, lol) It has access to my external drive to bring up ANY file (including my spreadsheets and invoice documents) at any given time at any given place and it does that without hickup running latest iOS7.

Tell me again why a newer device than mine is a POS, crippled, and lacks RAM? It may have half the amount of ram that your tablet or phone has, but the experience using the iPad or iPad mini in question is better - as shown by many product satisfaction surveys...

Try again...

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:32 2

8. fzacek (Posts: 1823; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


1st Generation non-Retina iPad Mini? No thank you...

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 21:59 1

10. theguy2345 (Posts: 129; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


I have one. it is terrible. the only thing I use it for now is hulu plus. ios itself is awful IMO. I am thinking after this I am going to get a laptop 2 in 1.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:47

16. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I have a Samsung Tab and a Nexus 10. they're both terrible. the only thing I use now is for netflix. Android itself is awful IMO. I am thinking after this I am going to get a Macbook Air.

Man that was difficult....

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:53

18. theguy2345 (Posts: 129; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Mine is probably going to be an HP with the hinge that folds over. No point in having two devices that can be in one. Especially since my iPad and laptop almost never leave the house anyway. And I agree, android is awful. Tried the Toshiba thrive. It was the worst experience ever.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:48

36. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Reply to post #18.

Dude I was sarcastic, specially about Android itself being awful.. I copied everything you said and inserted other products just to point out that making posts like the one you did #10 is worth nothing.

But hey, lets try this again regarding your favorite HP with the hinges or w.e.:

I have one. it is terrible. the only thing I use it for now is calculator. Windows OS itself is awful IMO. I am thinking after this I am going to get a Nexus 10.

I hope you got the point this time...

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:54 1

19. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


"Man that was difficult...."

Gosh, I hope you don't need kudos for every pro-Apple/anti-everything else post you make. We already know you are good at your job.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:16

21. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Have you read my anti-everything posts? It's not a secret - I enjoy Apple devices... But when I see post like iPhone SUCKS, or MotoX is the worst, or Samsung UltraPowerSavingMode is garbage - that's ignorant, especially if there's no facts or surveys to back it up.

And the anecdotal "I have an iPad and it's sucks" or "my friend uses has an Galaxy S5 and it lags as hell" or "I bought an LG whateverphone is unusable so now it's laying around collecting dust" is just petty.

The only truth that can be applied are articles, or public surveys, or tech benchmarks, or etc.. the rest is just blowing smoke especially if the article you're posting about is something you're not interested in anyway...

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:39 2

22. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1570; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


While I agree that the posts that only say device A sucks are ignorant, but to say that when someone shares their anecdotal experience is petty? So what you're saying is no one should either have or share their opinion of anything if it's negative, or they're being petty? Their experience is just that, their experience. And if enough share that experience, that's how we determine what our experience will probably be, good or bad.

Now if they use that experience to cloud their judgment going forward, and prophesising that ALL people will have the same experience as them, that is being petty. But simply saying I had a bad experience with them and will look elsewhere next time, that's not being petty, it's making a decision for themselves and sharing it with others. Telling everyone that if they use that product they absolutely will have the same bad experience, that's petty.

And the same goes for people who ridicule other people's experiences because they haven't had the same experience. Each person is different, each has different wants and needs, so while a device may satisfy one person's needs, it may not work for another person at all.

Usually I look for how many people have the same experience as a person speaking on any given subject, and also if it sounds realistic or if they're making baseless claims. Like if someone says they get 4 days of battery life out of a smartphone, I'll look at their review pretty skeptically, if not as a downright fabrication. But there's no need to discount anecdotal experiences right off the bat, otherwise you could never trust anything anyone says.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:59

25. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Thanks for elaborating that.. I totally agree.. but look at the post #23 below. He starts off saying that iPad mini is obsolete. But in contrary, it will be getting updates of latest software for at least 2 years still, it runs every app available in App Store (maybe slower loading times, or fewer detail in 3D games) and it will do 100% of what is expected from mini tablet for 90% of population: facebook, twiter, netflix, email, text, scype, gaming...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:14 1

31. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


"He starts off saying that iPad mini is obsolete. But in contrary, it will be getting updates of latest software for at least 2 years still, it runs every app available in App Store (maybe slower loading times, or fewer detail in 3D games) and it will do 100% of what is expected from mini tablet for 90% of population: facebook, twiter, netflix, email, text, scype, gaming..."

Forbes ran an article on 10/23/2012 that talked about how the iPad mini at that time was already a bad choice to buy for many people. There are numerous articles from many reputable publications that state similar things.

Now, almost two years later, you are going to sell the fiction that it is a good buy for some mythical people who will will use some few apps -- but not the browser, the most used app on the iPad? Makes me laugh. Another day, another bogus strawman.

It is well known how much Safari sucks on the iPad mini. And you are going to leave out further important details how many apps will not work well on such a limited machine? The A5/A5X are known to lag with iOS 7 and have all sorts of problems with modern iOS apps and you are going to say it'll be good for another two years. This is fiction. Disgusting fiction.

I could go on. But it is pointless. I am just giving someone doing their job a bit of entertainment during their workday.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:24 1

49. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1570; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


And that may be the case on that post. But I replied to your response to #10. But then in post #36, you go to tell him that his post is basically worthless. If he had raved about how great it was, would you have said the same? Do you see my point now? It's almost as if you're saying if someone likes the device, it's fine and helpful, if they don't it's petty and worth nothing.

While you may not agree with his conclusion due to your experiences with said device, you also can't pretend to know his experiences either. Not everyone is going to like an iOS device, just like not everyone will like an android or WP device. When you disregard a bad experience but are okay with good experiences, you're showing favoritism. It's also very possible that either he had a defective device or had a software or app issue causing his bad experiences. But to call his experience worth nothing because you don't agree with it is wrong, because someone could end up disregarding your experiences when you share yours.

And I'm not saying that their aren't plenty of people who do claim to own something just to bash it, it happens all the time on here. However, that doesn't mean the device is flawless or that someone can't have a bad experience with it. Turning a blind eye to problems helps no one. It doesn't help the person with the issue, and it doesn't give the manufacturer incentive to fix the issue if everyone brushes it under the rug. That's one of the reasons I didn't go with a Samsung device for a second time after my GS3. I ended up having issues with screen burn in and total cellular data loss after the 4.3 update. Samsung told me they could replace it at my cost since it was out of warranty (even though the data issue was fairly widespread and even a FDR wouldn't solve the issue). When I asked for help on the forums, I and other like me were accused of trying to smear Samsung's name. My GS3 is now basically a WiFi media player because no one wanted to admit that my issue was genuine. And I've seen that same scenario play out on other OSs and with other manufacturers. There's nothing wrong with liking your choice, it's when people are blindly loyal that problems start.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:35

51. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


VZWuser76, your post #49 is fair and I have to agree even if it's directed at me. I appreciate your post (I thumbs up both of them). What device do you have now? and if you're planning on a new one soon what are do think of getting next?

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:53

53. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1570; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Currently I'm running a Droid Maxx, mostly for the battery and minimal skin. I also picked up a Moto X to play with (when they did their holiday discount promos), and also to have when someone on my share plan needs a new phone.

I started out on HTC phones, and for the most part liked them, but poor battery life and Sense starting to get bloated drove me away. Then I tried a Samsung GS3, and it was okay, but I felt for the specs it should've run smoother. At almost the one year mark, I'm still not seeing any lag on either Motorola device, even though they supposedly have midrange specs. But it just shows what a minimal, almost non existent skin, and software optimization can do for a device. Imagine what it would've been had they used higher end components. My only gripe with it is the camera, but Moto hasn't been known for having stellar cameras.

If I were to get a new one, it'd most likely be a Motorola, however with the Lenovo deal pending, I'm a bit hesitant. Of course I may pick up an X+1 since that is most likely a pre-Lenovo device. Then I can wait and see if the new Motorola is as they've recently been.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:42

23. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


So you are in the market for an obsolete iPad mini?

A device that can't even display a HD movie without loss? A device with so little RAM, it'll lag and swap and reload with just a few Safari tabs open? A device that either won't run iOS 8 or die under its weight? With iOS 8 at most a few months away?

Because you are shopping for a present for your dear grandma with cataracts I am sure.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 23:42 1

24. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Well said. I love when android fanboys claim to have iOS devices, and post about how bad they are. They constantly spew hatred of all thing apple/iOS, attack the users relentlessly, then claim to own the devices. Puuuuuuleaaaaaaaase. If 0xffff owns/owned an apple device, then I'm the queen of England.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:05

28. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


I can go dig the 3GS out of a drawer at a moment's notice.

So I guess that means you are a queen, just not of England.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:09

30. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You're lying dude.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:18

32. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Ask me anything about the device, queenie. It was my first smartphone, purchased in 2009, and I had that phone for years.

It survived a crack to the case where the power/data connector is, many drops, and even getting soaked in a thunderstorm.

You are going to lose this one. Make your peace with it.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:25

33. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


See post 30, and every time you respond see post 30. After you see post 30, see post 29+1, post 100-70, post 4+26, and post 181-151.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:29 1

34. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


You are one pic away from being the "queen of PA", so don't push it, loser :)

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 00:40 1

35. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


3GS was my first and only other iPhone.. And I will stand by it thru ages. It was a damn good phone. Lasted me 4.5 years thru iOS version, twice fully submerged without repair, and 3 screen fully cracked. At some point after my 3rd screen shatter I lost touch ability, so had to learn to rely on voice control (not siri) it wasn't as capable as siri, but it sure kept me in business for a week until I had to to get screen repaired.

But 0xFFFF if you're comparing 3GS to anything today - you're fooling yourself that all iOS experience is like this. It's a 5 year old phone running 4.5 years later Operating System and Apps designed to take advantage of virtually 100x faster hardware. It will take more time to process things.. you should try at least an iPhone 5 which runs as smooth as iPhone 5S and phones released today, but bordering 2 years since release on a completely redesigned iOS that it got a whole year later after it was released. Thats an experience that everyone is after when buying Apple (not the logo)... You have to understand this...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 01:29 1

39. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


I tried an iPhone 5 for two weeks and returned it.

After developing software for Android using some work phones, I realized I couldn't go back to what I saw now as a stale closed OS. With an iPhone, the user has little to no control. It's never really the customer's phone. Rather, it is Apple's phone and they control it. And the ergonomics of the iPhone are so inefficient compared to most Android devices. I mean, no back button? No menu/apps button? Making funny gestures instead of a single, quick button press? Not something I wanted to do.

There are times when I miss small bits of the polish that Apple puts into their devices, but (with root) Android is a wide open universe compared to being forced to play in Apple's little sandbox forever.

I understand that some people are happy to be in Apple's little sandbox. That's okay with me as I realize some people need the sense of security that can derive from this sort of environment.

Apple has their strengths and I try to be fair about them. But pushing old obsolete product on the public without adequate disclosure is something I don't think highly of.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:05

45. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


1. "With an iPhone, the user has little to no control." So what kind of control do you look for in a phone?

2. "It's never really the customer's phone." you mean like the verizon/at&t logo on the back of yours? or their bloatware that 95% of population cannot remove or the 5% remaining FORCED to root to remove it and possible crumpling some features even if successful? Is it customers phone when you have to wait after Google releases a needed update, but your manufacturer butchers it with their version of Voice control, payment apps, look and feel, (there goes 4 months waiting for YOUR phone to receive an update). But wait, now it's carrier's turn to mess with YOUR phone - there goes another 10-12 months to finally get an update that Google released on YOUR phone. Then after you're jumping with joy and your new custom font, you realize you cannot even set permissions on an app you're downloading that for some reason wants to access your microphone, camera, and root just to play connect the dot. Dude you cant even manage your notifications just to stop annoying you. Yeah it's YOUR phone! Besides what does "open" platform really means, if you say filebrowser, stop and do some research. You have to root just to get a decent customization done, which kinda means you're not that "OPEN"... Might as well jailbreak and actually have a decent experience...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 02:42 1

52. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1570; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


While that may have been that way in the past, if you've noticed, updates aren't taking 10-12 months, or even another 10-12 months to go out anymore. As far as the manufacturers or carriers messing with the updates, if you don't want that, you an go with a Nexus device, bypassing the OEM tweaks and carrier interference. Or look for an OEM and carrier that minimizes the interference, Motorola and T-Mobile are good examples. But that is up to the customer to decide if they want to deal with OEM skins and carrier bloat.

The permissions has nothing to do with it being your phone. It's pretty simple, the app wants permissions to access certain parts of your phone. If you want to allow it, you do, if you don't, you don't. While that means that you won't be able to install the app, if enough people take issue with the permissions, the Dev will change them.

What may I ask are you talking about when referring to notifications? Most all apps have a section in the settings for notifications, and then there's the global settings that has a notification section.

As far as open platform, it really has nothing to do the the android devices that are sold through the carriers. That is Google's version of android. The open platform has to do with AOSP, and that, if a person is so inclined, they can take the source code of android, for free, and do whatever they want with it. Will it have Google's support, no, because it's your iteration of it. But the difference is, closed platforms like WP and iOS don't release their source code for everyone to do with as they please. AOSP isn't for the casual user.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 03:38

55. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


VZWuser76, you have no idea how long I waited for a poster like you to come along...

Ok, my points are based on devices that were released 1.5-2.5 years ago since it will be impossible to see how long it takes to update devices that came out today. Android updates are speeding up, but compared to iOS: look at release date of iOS7 and install base today, vs release date of KK and install base today (they were both released about the same time)... US market looks much better for KK but so does iOS7, while Global market looks really bad for KK.

On top of that, you can count how many new devices came out after iOS7 debuted - zero - so they're all iPhone 5s/5c or updated old devices. And now count how many new device came out after KK debuted helping that number dramatically when KK is pre-installed instead of actually pushing the update to existing users. Since we're talking about timing of updates here - KK is really not being pushed, but it's been more than Half a year and most people still using JB or older... I highly doubt that most of that is by choice...

Permissions: with iOS if I dont want to allow facebook to see my contacts or access my camera - no problem (i'm even prompted the first time I try to launch the app). With Android it's all or nothing. Waiting for Dev's to change due to outcry is a bit of a stretch, respectfully.

As far as Android notifications - I can only go by what I hear or read, to avoid anecdotal evidence, here's one of many articleshttp://smallbusiness.chron.com/android-notification-vs-iphone-notification-38017.html

But due to my inexperience with Android notifications - I will give that one the benefit of doubt...

"OPEN" platform - I was hoping to have 0xFFFF answer that one, he keeps boasting open vs closed platform and I suspect he doesn't really know what he's talking about...

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 03:21

54. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3242; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


@AlikMalix

As I mentioned -- "with root".

So let's look at that scenario. Carrier bloat and even vendor bloat can all be fixed.

I can install a customization framework like Xposed. This opens the door to fine grain control over privacy using XPrivacy. This gives the user even better control over privacy than iOS.

For something more mundane, I can install Firefox and an ad blocking add-in without root. Now if I have root, I can install a system-wide ad blocker.

Perhaps my camera software wasn't so great from the OEM. In some cases, such as the Nexus 5 and LG G2, I can upgrade to much better camera software.

Root and an unlocked bootloader also opens the door to custom ROMs, i.e. timely Android updates, no bloatware, optimized kernels, etc. Of course with a Nexus, there is no issue with untimely carrier updates or carrier bloatware.

Once the root door is open, there is no limit to what can be done. You can read thousands and thousands of things that can be done on Android over on XDA. A phone truly becomes one's own phone, especially with an unlocked boot loader.

Alternatively, I could just show you my Note 3 as I am making a sketch using the high resolution S-Pen. It's not just the software, but also the hardware. Great high resolution screens on many phones, a button for the camera on some phones, water resistance, expandable memory, removable battery, a variety of sizes and shapes and price points, etc.

With iOS, like you said, there is not even access via a file browser. The user cannot even change the theme to a dark theme instead of Apple's bad for your eyes bright white glare (using a dark background image gives one an iOS that is a mix of bright white and darker elements... better but not as good as a dark theme would be). With iOS, I can't change the default actions for opening a URL to the browser of my choice, so I am stuck with Safari and ads.

Apple is fixing some things with iOS 8, but as many have said, Apple is basically just copying existing features in Android. Apple has always been light on functionality and high on polish.

One could discuss the various aspects of Android and iOS for a long time. There are pros and cons of each platform that will vary from person to person.

To get back to this thread about the iPad mini, IMO Apple shouldn't be selling obsolete hardware knowing that it won't run the next version of iOS well, if at all, without adequate disclosure. There should be a sticker on it saying it won't play HD movies at full resolution as Apple's advertisements are misleading. And a sticker that says, in better terms, "will lag and generally work worse if used with soon to be released iOS 8".

In mobile device years, the iPad mini is 20 years old or perhaps even older. It's ancient. It need to be retired. And Apple would do so, if profits weren't more important than customers.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 03:58 1

56. AlikMalix (Posts: 664; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


So, iDevices are pointless and obsolete because you cannot root them? Dude, what do you need all that for? Is there one phone that you can buy that you can be happy with without rooting, fixing, or outright rebuilding the entire OS?

You are one unique individual (I dont mean that in a bad way), but you must understand that because iDevices dont meet your needs to root, fix, tinker, and outright rebuild the OS, doesn't mean they're obsolete. Actually non of the things you pointed out that you did to your Note3 is needed for me to be just as productive as you... It's all tinkering bro, the only thing to take away is default apps, and S-Pen. The file browser is just another way which I find cumbersome on a mobile device. I have access to all my files at home and that makes sense - which I do have a file browser app for, but on the phone? why?

Bottom line, I never had to even install custom ring tone on my iPhone (believe me it's easy I did it to prove a point 4 years ago) - iOS is great the way it is.

And if you ever read my earlier posts - I love Note3's pen - I draw on my iPad and I have an assortment of pens and pencils that I use for different "strokes" - but it would have been nice to have one embeded, but it doesnt render iDevices obsolete for lacking that. Note 3 is a great device but multiwindow is still uncomfortable even on that size screen - I want that on my iPad though, but i'm not giving up iOS 7 and it's ecosystem just to have multi-window for the 2 times it would have made things convenient.

But you've been already told, iPad mini that's in questing is a very capable device that it was designed to be - and this rant that it needs a warning label is (for lack of better word) stupid. And the "will lag with iOS8" is also highly presumptuous.

posted on 19 Aug 2014, 11:15 1

57. darkkjedii (Posts: 11793; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


You decided to go Arte 8800 style, and got reamed for it lol. Dude we all know how much you absolutely despise Apple, no need to cram it down our throats every article. You were made to eat your words bro, it's no biggie. Stop trying so hard to remind us 24-7, of your Apple hatred. We really don't care, you just asked for it, so we gave it to ya.

posted on 18 Aug 2014, 22:33 1

12. GreekGeek (Posts: 841; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)


It's the POS 1024 x 768 garbage hahaha
The N7 2nd gen 16 gb retails at the same price

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