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Apple has pre-emptively loaded up its LTE patent defense gun against Samsung

0. phoneArena 04 Sep 2012, 08:38 posted on

Last week, Apple won a huge victory in court against Samsung as a jury of 9 people decided that the Koreans have infringed on Apple’s patents and should…

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posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:45 26

1. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


Payback time?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:02 15

15. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Payback against apple who has almost $700 billion in cash. There is no payback. Plus my assumption is Apple has alot of backing. Not much is gonna happen to them. Just too many uneducated fools donating money to them.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:02 17

28. dsDoan (Posts: 216; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


$700 billion in cash? What fantasy land are you living in?

Apple has slightly over $100 billion in cash.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 19:04

72. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Last I read was $600+billion unless someone is lying to time or they're worth that much. No matter, Apple's got cash to burn.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 19:13 1

74. dsDoan (Posts: 216; Member since: 28 Dec 2011)


Apple's market value is $600+ billion, closing in on $700 billion. Likely where the confusion arose from.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 21:53

77. appleDOESNT.com (Posts: 434; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


my youtube video based on Steve Job's infamous quote 11 months ago, Apple only had 40 billion to squander going thermonuclear against Android

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 14:34 2

57. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


and samsung does as well. my prediction still fits that despite all of this NOTHING is going to change.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:46 43

2. s3_owner (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


buying patents for surviving. innovation at its best.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:58 1

13. Lift_Off (Posts: 152; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)


Apple is buying patents so they dont lose, because samsung already stated that it would sue apple right away if they came out with an LTE device. Not trying to innovate here, just trying to defend.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:55 3

44. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Apple will still lose, you can't buy a patent that was already in existence from a different company. Unless they have an entirely unique way of creating LTE radio and I seriously doubt they do, there patents are about as good as a water bucket full of holes.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 15:09

58. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Cowards always do the back-door fighting. Never face-to-face and with uniqueness.
Another East India Colonialism Company from Silicon valley. Grabbing others properties and claiming "its my fore-fathers' innovations". Winning in Homeland court is easy and US is politically corrupted, everybody knows that.
Now the Coward Sh**t busy preparing for LTE defense.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 16:42

64. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


True Warren Anderson is a saint and Julian Assagne is a criminal ... that's what a corrupt system's preachings on "justice" is all about.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:59 10

14. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)


You mean like when Google bought Motorola strickly for its patents?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:03 25

16. frydaexiii (Posts: 1231; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Google bought it to defend themselves from Apple.

Apple buys patent to defend themselves against a stone they threw first. They deserve to lose this this lawsuit and the iPhone deserves to be banned, for all the trouble Apple caused in the mobile world.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:45 3

25. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)


Keep telling yourself that. If its just for defense why did Moto just launch a new lawsuit against Apple? They could have just waited and if Apple sued them again they could just present their patents and thats it. But they didn't, they went on offense are trying to get obsolete Apple products banned. You're right thats totally defensive.

Both companies are all about money and that means dominating a multi-billion dollar marketplace that also happens to be the future of computing. Quit acting like Google is so innocent and holy.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:51 8

26. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5478; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Not Google and not Motorola has started all this suing marathon!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:55 8

27. joey_sfb (Posts: 2919; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Apple declared "thermonuclear" and strike against google's major android partners, a fact that you conveniently fail to mention.

Apple also did a 'First Strike' on Samsung and follow up with two nukes on Samsung Flagship "GIII" and Note

You are right! There are no innocent parties here just that we detest apple more. Deal with it!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 15:27 1

61. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Tit for tat. Who started the "Patent-Patent" freeking game. If you throw a stone at first with an intention to harasse someone, save your "BIG-GIANT-DIRTY-A*S" from being busted.

Smartphone/Telecomm. technology is no more fully-control under US, remember that.
The Asians are rising at a speed you have no idea if you are fully ignorant about Asian Rising Market.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:57 2

33. KingShango (Posts: 89; Member since: 16 May 2012)


At least Apple is up front about their business. They felt they were being ripped off so they did something about it. Google just sits back, steals all your information and tries to quietly run everyone else out of business. Thats why they're facing huge anti-trust lawsuits in Europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/04/google-search-engine-foundem?CMP=twt_fd

"Unbeknownst to its shareholders, Google's increasingly anti-competitive practices have been quietly accruing billions of dollars of antitrust liabilities," Raff said.

So just keep drinking the Android/Google "don't be evil" kool-aid.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:10 10

34. remixfa (Posts: 13905; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


so.. apple was up front when they got caught tracking every movement and logging everything you did on your cellphone for a year at a time? really? Were they up front with that well known browser bug that they left open for 2 years before they decided to try to sue google (who was among hundreds of people exploiting it) for exploiting it to add a +1 button to their page? Were they up front with people in Italy when they tried to get them to pay for a 2 year warranty when it was legally required to be given for free?

Apple isnt up front about anything. Talk bout drinking the kool-aid.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 17:57 1

65. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2984; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


lol I wouldnt be surprised if that was Taco on another account.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 18:49

68. remixfa (Posts: 13905; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


if ya think it is, report him so they can double check his IP and such. That sad troll is bound to be hiding around here somewhere.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 18:58 1

71. joey_sfb (Posts: 2919; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


At least Google provide an option to disable data collection..

Apple just play innocent, and pretend that only google is collecting data.

News Flash!!! Everyone is doing it, some are more up front than others and provide option for you to disable data collection. I have yet to see such option in any apple devices, as its not a law to have it yet.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 15:21 1

60. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


Buying Motorola is particularly another strategy. Google rarely play the dirty game "Patents Patents my freeking Patents". Google sponsors and patronize open source platform. To protect Open Source Platform Rising Star Android and its Allies, Google, Of Course, has got the 100% rights to defend its long-worked Linux OS.
Your logic is not that much stronger. Apple's claim "Slide-to-Unlock", "Round-shape-Look","Similar Icons Rows" are silly matters.It's Apple's own playground- US Court-yard.Come to another countries. Apple's Patented "DUMB-A*S" will be busted.
You will see soon.

How much have you really paid for an Android OS ?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:46

41. darkkjedii (Posts: 11303; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


It's nit about innovating it's about foolproofing

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:47 19

3. ajac09 (Posts: 1367; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


When you cant create you buy. Samsung holds the most important patents with LTE phones.. (and of course supplies the evil fruit company with parts anyways). I thik they hsould attack on 2 fronts. The source of iphone components and LTE.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:48 22

4. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5478; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Apple Business Model:
http://s8.postimage.org/h3v7lmskl/image.jpg

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:52 13

9. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


shared on facebook - thanks

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:57 10

12. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)


Shared too :D

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:49 11

5. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1877; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


Oh no....they just gave away, a new iPhone 5, feature....LTE.. lol

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:25 6

22. redsox420 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Aug 2012)


I know really. Way to stay ahead of the curve fruity company.. Just like that unheard of screen size of 4 inches coming soon.. No other manufacturer will ever have a screen that size. the fruity company is way ahead of its competition. First to come out with a rectangle box that holds parts with rounded corners. And graphic icons with rounded corners, thats also never been seen before. What will you WOW us with next time Mr Wizard?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:50 1

6. MartyK (Posts: 712; Member since: 11 Apr 2012)


I thought InterDigital has their IP's in 2g thru 3g technology (WCDMA) and most is FRAND?..didn't know they had 4G LTE; interesting.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:50 5

7. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6479; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


THIS SHYT NEEDS TO STOP

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:51 16

8. FrostyDanny (Posts: 90; Member since: 15 Jul 2012)


So desperate apple you are finally getting a taste of your own unethical business tactics to bite you in the ass

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:53 1

10. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I am sure by the time samsung sues, they will lose as the patents will become FRAND.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:56 9

11. lubba (Posts: 1310; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


Only us minority care what Apple is doing, but the majority will continue to purchase the iPhone even if they know Apple killed animals, for example, in order to create the icrap, oops iPhone.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:04 5

17. Sniggly (Posts: 7025; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Yeah, so if the US court system has any consistency they'll throw out any suit Apple brings to bear using these patents because they simply bought them all instead of developing any of the tech themselves.

I think Apple will soon reap what they have sown in these patent disputes. The sooner this s**t ends, the better.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 22:51

79. jroc74 (Posts: 4750; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly.

Buying existing patents recently didnt help HTC in its case against Apple.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:17 9

18. frydaexiii (Posts: 1231; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Samsung really shouldn't have announced they were going to sue Apple over the new iPhone...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:23 3

21. Mitchel (Posts: 228; Member since: 25 May 2012)


+1

I agree with this.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:36 3

24. joey_sfb (Posts: 2919; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Just show that Samsung is infuriated.

Samsung; "Betrayal!"
(collapse with a knife on his back)

Apple; "Thank you for your generous loads of cash and parts, partner!"

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:18 2

19. Aeires (unregistered)


Over 1200 patents on LTE alone, yep, patent system needs a major overhaul.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:23 10

20. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Apple will win again with Judge Koh living by Apple pay checks.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:33 6

23. Diego! (Posts: 505; Member since: 15 Jun 2009)


Couldn't agree more! I'm disgusted with Apple products.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:25

29. sudbury78 (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


I find it pain atakingly amusing how so many of you "hate" a company and a particular phone. The concept is mindblowing. What did apple do to you personally? Give you gas? Run over your cat? It's a PHONE. Don't buy it and get on with life. You all need to get a life and fast. The best part of this--- apple is doing exactly what they want to do and that is get the hype machine up and running which I'm turns makes the public buy.
Time to find something else in your life to get worked up about.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:47 3

30. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


mate how about you go do some research or just get a life yourself. people are getting annoyed that apple are basically trying to stop other company's innovating and making future products better.

in 5 years if apple get there way we'll see if your still thinking like a immature kid when the only phone available is the overpriced inferior iphone.

see people hear have a life and in that life they enjoy tech so when a company try to stop tech developing they have every right to vioce there opinions.

just like you have every right to comment and sound like a dumbass

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:43

39. sudbury78 (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


Don't hate that I own apple shares at $119 a share because they are the biggest and most valuable and powerful company in the world. If you can't beat the best, why not join the best. Get that one mate?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 19:13 3

75. Sniggly (Posts: 7025; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


And your hypocrisy is revealed.

"don't hate on the company I invested in! Waaah!"

You might want to sell your stock in the next year or so. Apple won't reign forever.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:54 8

32. tedkord (Posts: 4760; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


What has Apple done to me? They've driven the price of my smartphone up, stifled the innovation on it, tried to limit my choices as a consumer through product bans. Because of Apple, I pay more for less.

I won't buy it, even as Apple tries to make it the only choice I have as a consumer.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:10 6

35. remixfa (Posts: 13905; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


ill go back to a texting phone before i go to an iphone. I will not support a company that subversive, anti-competitive, and abusive to its workers.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:42

37. gallitoking (Posts: 4690; Member since: 17 May 2011)


then you must live on an island.. because the food and the clothes you wear. hmmm you are a fool

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:52 2

43. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5478; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Could you explain your comment? What it has to do with clothes and food?

Also there is no reason to insult people.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 12:06 5

48. Sniggly (Posts: 7025; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Congrats, Gallito. You're back for all of twenty minutes and you're already being a jerk.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 15:33 2

62. levvy (Posts: 33; Member since: 01 Aug 2012)


The real fool is that person who doesn't recognize /doen't even a single intention to encourage the real inventor.
Every part of your "iphone" is developed and buyed and assembled over Eastern Asia.
Have you lost your freaking mind ???
Its better that you settle yourself in a "APPLE Patented i-island"

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 18:55

69. remixfa (Posts: 13905; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i am a fool in love with an ideal. free trade, low taxes,less government, freedom to do whatever you want as long as it doesnt harm another, marry whom you want, ethical working conditions, and free trade.

Textile companies have been under the microscope for years. Things have improved imensely from where they were. They still suck for most, but they suck less. I dont buy clothing at walmart and I am semi consious of where it comes from though I know we dont have much of a choice.

Mobile makers however have until recently escaped all scrutiny and completely ignored the cries for help from their workers and families. I dont remember Nike having 17 suicides in one year even with as bad as they were.

I may be a fool, but at least I am a fool with an ideal to follow. you however a chicken with its head cut off. Cant see where your going and bumpin into everything.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:46

42. sudbury78 (Posts: 129; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)


Stinks for you eh? Long live Apple. Don't hate, innovate!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 11:57 1

46. -box- (Posts: 3797; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


The company you hold stock in should value your words.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 18:46 1

66. tedkord (Posts: 4760; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


If only they would.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 22:53

81. jroc74 (Posts: 4750; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Ya know....you didnt have to read any of this or post here.

Just saying.

Btw....root for/against a sports team? Same scenario. It is what it is.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 10:51 3

31. tedkord (Posts: 4760; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20120904081835685

Apple may have much bigger worries than Samsung's LTE patents. (Along with AOL, YouTube, Google, Ebay, Facebook, etc...)

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