Apple gains market share, passes LG and takes second behind Samsung
0. phoneArena 01 Dec 2012, 02:05 posted on
Android is still the top OS, iOS follows, and the next quarter is going to be really interesting...
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30. Aeires (unregistered)
Can but likely won't. They created a flagship phone but put it only on Verizon and gave it only a 10 hour battery. Should have followed Apple and Samsung's lead by releasing the DNA on all carriers and should have given it a Razr Maxx equivalent battery to truly make it a flagship device, one that would bring them back from their sinking profits.
38. a22matic (Posts: 17; Member since: 17 Oct 2012)
Obviously they can't... They've broken the 2012 promise they made about maintaining their current phones. I'm speaking as an EVO LTE owner on ICS. Phone also has bugs that haven't been addressed for months.
77. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
HTC must Expand its advertise....
More ADV=More Sell
78. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
That's the first thing I thought when I saw this.
29. Aeires (unregistered)
Yep, did people think their share would go down after releasing a new model?
68. -box- (Posts: 3991; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
Text is misleading. Smartphone OSes only, not entire mobile market.
2. abdane (Posts: 494; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
apple will always be second to samsung and google ;)
7. MeoCao (unregistered)
This is old data, there are new reports that iPhone has overtaken Android in US for last 12 week sales.
That's perhaps b-c Nexus 4, DNA, Optimus G, Notes 2 have not been in the market yet or for very limited time.
But overall you're right, Android will do much better than at the same time last year.
16. drahmad (Posts: 480; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
by last year yoou mean? perhaps you wanted to say next year.
42. MeoCao (unregistered)
This is the link
Next time get the fact right before talking.
15. drahmad (Posts: 480; Member since: 20 Aug 2011)
are you forgetting that in actual term of profits, google and samsung combined with MS have less profit than apple. i dont like apple but i like reality.
18. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
No, not combined with Samsung, silly.
That would yield about 15billion.
Get your figures right.
22. someones4 (Posts: 624; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Darac is right. samsung has plenty of profit from its mobile division alone. The revenue of the entire Samsung group is about 200 billion dollars which places it in the top ten largest company. Apple by contrast ranks 30 something
32. mick25 (banned) (Posts: 110; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
so you love that fact that Apple is extracting all consumer surplus out of you?
3. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
I'm glad to see Motorola is still hanging in there at 11%. Hopefully with Google in control that number starts to go up again.
4. jove39 (Posts: 1819; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
In android 2.x I wasn't fan of Samsung's TW...but in 4.x samsung has made TW lovable...now people shying away from Android will come back for features missing in other platforms/devices...I think Samsung will see bump in share in next results.
19. joey_sfb (Posts: 5358; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I only start noticing samsung after apple sue them. Now i am using more of their products including a phone and a tablet. Thinking of getting a new samsung refrigerator to replace my old one.
75. someones4 (Posts: 624; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Yup..touchwiz isn't that bad. Granted, it's not a work of art but it's very good in terms of function. Fell in love with touchwiz since the launch of SGS2.
5. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Always looks at YoY data rather than daily figures which makes no sense.
6. Edmund (Posts: 656; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
What's the bet Nokia sells more smartphones than htc over the next 3 months
72. someones4 (Posts: 624; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
Honestly, neither of them has a shining future.
8. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)
I don't get it.. this survey shows a comfortable lead for android(which makes every sense) while the other one claims ios overtaking it during the same period.
9. MeoCao (unregistered)
No, the survey is until Oct 12 only, and iOS overtook Android in 12 week period ending late Nov.
44. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Meo, iOS did not overtake Android for the 12 week period shown - the chart and figures show that Apple gained the most percentage of marketshare in that time period over other OEMs, but that Google had the greater gains when looked at from an OS point of view. Not sure why these charts are a big deal - who really knows how accurate they are and what do we consumers gain from them - nothing - unless, people buy a phone/OS just to be number one.
48. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
I bought my iPhone my one x and every other phone I've owned cuz I liked em. I can care less about who's #1, who leads in market share, or who's stock is rising/falling. I drive a bus n vegas, so all I care about is reporting to work on time cuz LV transit pays me. Not Samsung Apple, or google.
70. joey_sfb (Posts: 5358; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Android users don't object to people buying Apple products because that goes against being objective and having more choices in the markets.
Apple fans have no need of choices and worship apple as a single brand that could fulfuil all their computing needs. Not that its a bad thing.
For me i used to buy a lot of apple products, Just that i find them disgusting of late with 100 billions war chest that is dedicated to limit my choices to choose and get a good deal. I want apple to put effort in coming out better product to compete not lawsuit that bring me zero benefits.
Brand loyalty was never a question till my own benefits is at stake.
49. MeoCao (unregistered)
Have I ever said it was a big deal, I just said about what I read. This is always not 100% accurate about these things but at least research is always better than guessing.
The report also said US was the only market that iOS barely beat Android.
I also so said I thought this would change when new top Android phones enter market in US.
51. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I must be missing something as the report I see if over a 3 - month period in the U.S. and it shows Android and Samsung are in the lead. Where do you see that Apple or even iOS barely beat out Android. I do see that Android increased its share more than Apple iOS did and that Samsung had a gain not quite as big as APPLE, although, the gains showed are all minor.
53. MeoCao (unregistered)
74. someones4 (Posts: 624; Member since: 16 Sep 2012)
hahah...not exactly. In my region, where there are high taxes for imported goods, an iphone 3g/3gs still sells for around 300 USD
11. lukasound (Posts: 152; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
You can't go back to iPhone after you used a good Android phone. You would just feel frustrated with the lack of functionality. That's why Apple is bound to keep dropping. They still hold their sales with kids and elderly because of simplicity.
13. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
They hold their sales cuz people Iike iOS. Android holds their sales cuz people like android. It's odd that u can't see that n the tech world there's something for everyone. I own an iPhone 5, and an Htc one x...I like both. Kids, and elderly huh? I see tone of young adults with iPhones, and I live n vegas and drive busses so I see people from all over the world since I'm on the strip, and at the airport. The two phones I see the most r the ip5, and gs3. Your comment is wayyyyy off base. Realize not everyone wants an android device, some want iPhones, wp8, BB, Symbian etc. Some even choose based on a particular maker cuz they've had good luck with that makers line. there's more to tech than android dude. As I said its odd that u can't see that. Tech is like the auto industry, lots of choices for lots of people... Think about it.
14. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Kids and elderly? Lets say kids r everyone 17 and under, and elderly is everyone over 55 wanting an iPhone. We then take about 25% of people in the age demographic between 18 and 54 wanting one also. I say that looks pretty sweet for apple/iPhone financial future...wouldn't u? When u say you can't go back you're speaking for YOU bro. That's y I own both.
46. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Speaking of elderly - I know many that have large screened Android phones and love them - they can actually see what is on the screen. Android phones can be customized for the elderly very easily, so that it does simplify how they use them and increase their ease of use on that device.
66. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Ok and that just re enforces my point that the tech world offers something for everyone. Thanx for the post, I'll thumb it up
21. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)
Darkkjedii is making the most sense. First off like I've been saying, if you don't hold a serious financial interest in these companies, then your stupid for showing such loyalty. Next, I have and will always use what I feel. I have a Samsung focus 2 right now by choice but this year alone I've had an iPhone 5, HTC one x(twice), and a gs3 and they all have their flaws and pros. Stop being loyal to these tech giants, they don't give 2 cents about you, only your money. Samsung has 472 devices in the market, they should be leading. Apple will continue to be around, no matter how much the fandroids attempt to discredit that fact. Windows phone 8 will be the defining moment for micro$oft and blackberry is putting out a last ditch effort next year. Great times if you have an open mind!
23. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Well written post tree-nitty. Glad to see some people have an intelligent open mind. Too bad some people think only what they like matters. I like tech period, and am currently deciding what wp8 device I want. I'm gonna wait till samsungs comes out then decide. The only thing I hate about tech, is that its not free, and I'm not rich lmao.
31. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
this comment i like, finally no hate or fanboy crap
sums up everything ive been saying over and over lol
least there are afew open minded tech enthusiasts left
37. darkkjedii (Posts: 19803; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Bro u may not know it, but you've enlightened me. I love your insight dude, u r a true techie, as am I.
39. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)
well everyone can get there wires crossed and be argueing even though there saying the same thing lol mutual respect is what some on here must learn
yeah least afew of us tech lovers are around, we just gonna be dealing will certain fanboys polluting the site
58. Tre-Nitty (Posts: 468; Member since: 16 Nov 2010)
I just refuse to be loyal to any company. Ive never received a check from apple, samsung, etc. So I could care less about them personally. My wife refuses to put her iphone down and I use my galaxy note tablet all the time. There is and never will be any loyalty in my house to multi billion dollar companies.
63. willard12 (Posts: 1530; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
As much as we all should just get along, this comment is flawed. There is a reason that you only see fanboyism in the smartphone arena. Lawsuits. To say that there is no financial impact on consumers because of other companies is false. The costs of the lawsuits get passed on directly to the consumer. For example, your HTX One X (that was nearly banned by Apple, to the point where they had the ITC open shipping containers) has a cost of $6-$10 passed on to you. Apple has added the GS3 (that you say you own) to it's list of devices that it wants banned or they will just as Samsung to pay them $30-$40 for each device sold. How do you think Samsung will make up that amount in a licensing deal or $1.05 Billion settlement? The people who want the devices will end up paying. This type of fanboyism doesn't exist in the TV market. It has existed in computers with the Mac vs. PC, you know, when Apple sued MS. It is disingenuous to state that the amount of devices sold by a manufacturer is irrelevant because at the end, consumer do have a financial stake in the viability of the preferred manufacturer.
52. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
With an updated iOS and less focus on litigation, APPLE may be able to do better. The only ones who should care are the company's stockholders.
54. nooraldeen (Posts: 49; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)
i know it's irrelevant but does any one knows when the samsung galaxy note2 come in red?if u know any rumor plz replay me .tnx
56. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
71. MC1123 (Posts: 1255; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
this proves that even people keep on saying that RIM and symbian is dead... its just that people really care for them!! and have a good chance of rising again if its market right!
so glad that RIM is still there, and so is symbian! and also prove that the WP plan is not working that way!
so RIM and BB10 will be really okay!
76. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)
What's the point in worrying? the GS III is now te #1 phone in the U.S. Plus I sold two today to a customer.